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http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/common-grammatical-errors-that-drive-you-completely-insan1. The classic your/youre mistake.
Your - it belongs to you. Youre - you are. Simple as that.
2. When subjects and verbs dont agree.
There are towels in the closet. Towels are a plural object, so are is the appropriate form of the verb in this sentence.
There are two I don't completely agree with...
6. When someone puts punctuation outside of a quotation mark.
Punctuation goes inside the quotation mark. Just do it.
There is an exception to this rule, which is the punctuation goes outside the quotes when the punctuation isn't part of the quote and changes the quote. For example: What did she mean when she said "trees are stupid"?
and...
12. Saying they to refer to a singular object.
They is plural, so unless youre talking about more than one person, you need to say he or she.
"They" is generally excepted as a gender neutral pronoun in all but the most stuffy writing right now.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)it seems that about 99% of the population does not know how to pronounce the word that is used for those short video snips. GIF is not pronounced to rhyme with a major brand of peanut butter.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)I had it backwards. It IS pronounced like the peanut butter and NOT the way most people pronounce it, with the soft G. Thanks for pointing out MY brainfart.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/tech/web/pronounce-gif/
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)although "they" is becoming common as a pronoun for a person specifically because it's non-gendered. That's useful enough for me to forgive.
Inappropriate apostrophes, however, make me bite off faces.
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)English has, after all, a perfectly good gender-neutral pronoun: it. But for whatever reason, people do not like using it for people, except the occasional baby. It seems to be okay, though, for pets, even though pets are alive.
-- Mal
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I don't even like "it" for any animal. But I'm weird that way...
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)It seems like every single day I read something online, typically a message board post or a tweet, where someone mixes up "lose" and "loose." When did we become such poor spellers?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)so I have to pause and think whenever I use those words. Another tough one for me is manner versus manor. I feel more comfortable with those words now, but that took a while.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)who confuse 'their' and 'there', my 82 year old father constantly does this in e-mails. I do not understand the confusion with 'loose' and 'lose'. They are not pronounced the same. The difference is too obvious to except this error.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)I think it plays a trick on the brain and looks like it should sound like Lose. And loose sounds shorter but is spelled longer.
If that makes sense.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)been enough to differentiate themselves. I have never gotten them confused since they are not in anyway similar in their meaning.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I do not accept any exceptions!
postulater
(5,075 posts)So I got good at those.
And lots if spell-downs. They were fun but there is something divisive about competing on basic skills at an early age.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)The word "towels" in that sentence is a plural subject, not object, so it would take a plural verb. Plural objects have no effect on the verb.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It's become accepted. The BBC even used it.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Who knew?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)As in, "Hey treestar, it's been a long time since I've seen you."
If you were using "has" as a possessive as in, "it has a new dinglearm", you wouldn't use a contraction.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)i cringe when someone posts that they're looking for advise.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Iterate
(3,020 posts)Oh. That sounds vulgar. Quotes might have helped.
"Myself" is reflexive and is generally used only when "I" is in the same sentence. I see myself in the mirror. "I see me in the mirror" implies a child or simpleton who has no sense of self. I can say "I myself saw the plane crash" if I want to imply trauma that made me withdraw or to add a layer of credibility. If I say "I and myself saw the plane crash", that's just schizo.
To say "Tom and myself are attending the meeting" implies there is no "me" or "I" in the external world, only my internal self. Don't take a job with anyone who speaks that way.
The title of Moore's film was "Roger and Me", not "Roger and Myself". How self-absorbed would that be?
The iSelf is a special case for hip consumers.
Me, myself, and I are the Holy Trinity. Oh, damned quotes are giving me problems again. I can only blame myself.
I don't know what happens when speaking of oneself in the third-person is mixed with selfhood, but Iterate and myself will be off to explore it. Besides, myself has made this too long and tedious.
oregonjen
(3,338 posts)I often see this mistake and it drives me crazy! Noone is not a word.
Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)hah, you know I think I have a pretty good grasp on grammar until I read threads like this. It seems the more I read on the subject the more confused I get and begin to wonder just how many mistakes I'm making and don't even realize it...
Oh well. Life is too short- And furthermore! you know what? LAY sounds better than LIE to me in almost every circumstance, so there. At least that's what I tell myself when I can't remember the rule for it.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I just disagree with it. If it's part of the quote, it goes inside.
"This is a sentence.", he said.
"How are you?", he asked.
"You suck!", he shouted.
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)... especially when they illustrated so many more obscure errors. Perhaps they subsume it under "your/you're."
As for #12, count me among the stuffy. I'll continue to use "he" and damn all revisionists.
-- Mal
LWolf
(46,179 posts)GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)I saw the word "agreeance" in a document I was proofreading, which was written by a high school principal.
I also heard a teacher ask, "Who are we versing?" in reference to an athletic contest.
There are many more... but these two examples are painful enough.
DFW
(54,405 posts)For some reason, it has become common to use an apostrophe to form a plural. "I never support the Republican's...."
There may be languages that do that, but English isn't one of them.
The use of "you and I" as a direct or indirect object is the most maddening of the ones listed, and it has been in use for decades. I have heard it in a Doors song ("Touch Me" and even on a Mark Knopfler song on the "Golden Heart" album.
Way back in elementary school, our teacher gave us the simplest way of all to know which to use: she asked which we would say, "Please do this for I" or "Please do this for me" and told us that if we would never say "Please do this for I" we should also never say "Please do this for you and I."
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Both of those errors give me an eye twitch. Aggghhhhhhhh!
DFW
(54,405 posts)Or, as they say down in Republicanland, "watch you're back."
zanana1
(6,122 posts)"That was so fun". Am I wrong to think that it should be "That was so much fun?"
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)It's universal to place question marks and exclamation points either inside or outside the quotation marks, according to the sense. If the mark is part of the matter being quoted, such as a title, it goes inside, otherwise outside.
There is no universal standard for commas and periods. The "logical" style of treating them the same way as other marks, i.e., placing them according to the sense, is more common in British English. Always placing them inside the quotation marks, which some think produces a more esthetically pleasing effect, is more common in American English.
British style: His best-known story is "The Gift of the Magi".
American style: His best-known story is "The Gift of the Magi."
Even this distinction isn't a sharp one, though. For example, in American legal writing, the logical style is prescribed when quoting a statute, because the presence or absence of a comma or a period in the text you're quoting might change the meaning.
Fuller elaboration here.
vanlassie
(5,675 posts)Arrrgh!