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ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:30 PM Mar 2014

15 Common Grammatical Errors That Drive You Completely Insane

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamdavis/common-grammatical-errors-that-drive-you-completely-insan

1. The classic your/you’re mistake.



“Your” - it belongs to you. “You’re” - you are. Simple as that.

2. When subjects and verbs don’t agree.



There are towels in the closet. “Towels” are a plural object, so “are” is the appropriate form of the verb in this sentence.

There are two I don't completely agree with...

6. When someone puts punctuation outside of a quotation mark.



Punctuation goes inside the quotation mark. Just do it.

There is an exception to this rule, which is the punctuation goes outside the quotes when the punctuation isn't part of the quote and changes the quote. For example: What did she mean when she said "trees are stupid"?

and...

12. Saying “they” to refer to a singular object.



“They” is plural, so unless you’re talking about more than one person, you need to say “he” or “she.”

"They" is generally excepted as a gender neutral pronoun in all but the most stuffy writing right now.
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15 Common Grammatical Errors That Drive You Completely Insane (Original Post) ZombieHorde Mar 2014 OP
Although I do not find it particularly annoying, Jenoch Mar 2014 #1
How do you pronounce it then? nt ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #2
Wait a second.... Jenoch Mar 2014 #4
rec … And a correction from a grammar nazi! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #3
Always thought that one was interesting. malthaussen Mar 2014 #22
for some of us, "it" isn't okay for pets! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #26
They omitted the maddening lose vs. loose phenomenon that afflicts the internet. LonePirate Mar 2014 #5
I am prone to that mistake, ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #6
I can understand people Jenoch Mar 2014 #7
Don't you think it's the double "oo" that throws people off? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #12
I have always thought the 'oo' and 'o' sounds have Jenoch Mar 2014 #14
the difference is too obvious to be excepted from the rules.... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #28
We had a homonym contest in grade school postulater Mar 2014 #15
Exscape Kingofalldems Mar 2014 #8
A and an, need I say more. Kokonoe Mar 2014 #9
Re Number 2 Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #10
"try and" for "try to" treestar Mar 2014 #11
...and thanks for the incorrect "It's" in your reply... Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #20
It is for "It is" only and not "It has?" treestar Mar 2014 #21
no, "it's" for "it has" (past tense) is fine, BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #30
advise vs advice isn't there fizzgig Mar 2014 #13
That bugs me too. n/t JimDandy Mar 2014 #27
Overuse and abuse of myself. Iterate Mar 2014 #16
Spelling "no one" as one word! oregonjen Mar 2014 #17
ohgod. Raffi Ella Mar 2014 #18
I'm familiar with the rule about putting punctuation inside the quotes. Ron Obvious Mar 2014 #19
Odd they didn't include "there/their/they're" malthaussen Mar 2014 #23
loose/lose. nt LWolf Mar 2014 #24
"Agreeance" and "versing" drive me batty. GreenEyedLefty Mar 2014 #25
They left out the worst one DFW Mar 2014 #29
I'm with you on both counts!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #31
Careful--we are in the minority! DFW Mar 2014 #32
! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #33
Am I the only one who thinks this one sounds a bit too trendy? zanana1 Mar 2014 #34
What's given as a rule about punctuation (number 6) is oversimplified. Jim Lane Mar 2014 #35
"I could care less." vanlassie Mar 2014 #36
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
1. Although I do not find it particularly annoying,
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:42 PM
Mar 2014

it seems that about 99% of the population does not know how to pronounce the word that is used for those short video snips. GIF is not pronounced to rhyme with a major brand of peanut butter.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
4. Wait a second....
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:53 PM
Mar 2014

I had it backwards. It IS pronounced like the peanut butter and NOT the way most people pronounce it, with the soft G. Thanks for pointing out MY brainfart.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/tech/web/pronounce-gif/

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
3. rec … And a correction from a grammar nazi!
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:53 PM
Mar 2014

although "they" is becoming common as a pronoun for a person specifically because it's non-gendered. That's useful enough for me to forgive.


Inappropriate apostrophes, however, make me bite off faces.


" "They" is generally excepted as a gender neutral pronoun in all but the most stuffy writing right now."
-----That should be "accepted".

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
22. Always thought that one was interesting.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:46 AM
Mar 2014

English has, after all, a perfectly good gender-neutral pronoun: it. But for whatever reason, people do not like using it for people, except the occasional baby. It seems to be okay, though, for pets, even though pets are alive.

-- Mal

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
26. for some of us, "it" isn't okay for pets!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:25 PM
Mar 2014
My Shrimpy is a tiny furry baby. And a princess. And a ninja. And a professional nasal hygienist. And a conductor. And a podiatrist. And a secret agent!


I don't even like "it" for any animal. But I'm weird that way...

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
5. They omitted the maddening lose vs. loose phenomenon that afflicts the internet.
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 10:58 PM
Mar 2014

It seems like every single day I read something online, typically a message board post or a tweet, where someone mixes up "lose" and "loose." When did we become such poor spellers?

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
6. I am prone to that mistake,
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:02 PM
Mar 2014

so I have to pause and think whenever I use those words. Another tough one for me is manner versus manor. I feel more comfortable with those words now, but that took a while.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
7. I can understand people
Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:24 PM
Mar 2014

who confuse 'their' and 'there', my 82 year old father constantly does this in e-mails. I do not understand the confusion with 'loose' and 'lose'. They are not pronounced the same. The difference is too obvious to except this error.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
12. Don't you think it's the double "oo" that throws people off?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:39 AM
Mar 2014

I think it plays a trick on the brain and looks like it should sound like Lose. And loose sounds shorter but is spelled longer.

If that makes sense.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. I have always thought the 'oo' and 'o' sounds have
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:52 AM
Mar 2014

been enough to differentiate themselves. I have never gotten them confused since they are not in anyway similar in their meaning.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
15. We had a homonym contest in grade school
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 02:49 AM
Mar 2014

So I got good at those.

And lots if spell-downs. They were fun but there is something divisive about competing on basic skills at an early age.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
10. Re Number 2
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:08 AM
Mar 2014

The word "towels" in that sentence is a plural subject, not object, so it would take a plural verb. Plural objects have no effect on the verb.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
30. no, "it's" for "it has" (past tense) is fine,
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:48 PM
Mar 2014

As in, "Hey treestar, it's been a long time since I've seen you."

If you were using "has" as a possessive as in, "it has a new dinglearm", you wouldn't use a contraction.

Iterate

(3,020 posts)
16. Overuse and abuse of myself.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:47 AM
Mar 2014

Oh. That sounds vulgar. Quotes might have helped.

"Myself" is reflexive and is generally used only when "I" is in the same sentence. I see myself in the mirror. "I see me in the mirror" implies a child or simpleton who has no sense of self. I can say "I myself saw the plane crash" if I want to imply trauma that made me withdraw or to add a layer of credibility. If I say "I and myself saw the plane crash", that's just schizo.

To say "Tom and myself are attending the meeting" implies there is no "me" or "I" in the external world, only my internal self. Don't take a job with anyone who speaks that way.

The title of Moore's film was "Roger and Me", not "Roger and Myself". How self-absorbed would that be?

The iSelf is a special case for hip consumers.

Me, myself, and I are the Holy Trinity. Oh, damned quotes are giving me problems again. I can only blame myself.

I don't know what happens when speaking of oneself in the third-person is mixed with selfhood, but Iterate and myself will be off to explore it. Besides, myself has made this too long and tedious.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
18. ohgod.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:42 AM
Mar 2014

hah, you know I think I have a pretty good grasp on grammar until I read threads like this. It seems the more I read on the subject the more confused I get and begin to wonder just how many mistakes I'm making and don't even realize it...


Oh well. Life is too short- And furthermore! you know what? LAY sounds better than LIE to me in almost every circumstance, so there. At least that's what I tell myself when I can't remember the rule for it.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
19. I'm familiar with the rule about putting punctuation inside the quotes.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:10 AM
Mar 2014

I just disagree with it. If it's part of the quote, it goes inside.

"This is a sentence.", he said.

"How are you?", he asked.

"You suck!", he shouted.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
23. Odd they didn't include "there/their/they're"
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:54 AM
Mar 2014

... especially when they illustrated so many more obscure errors. Perhaps they subsume it under "your/you're."

As for #12, count me among the stuffy. I'll continue to use "he" and damn all revisionists.

-- Mal

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
25. "Agreeance" and "versing" drive me batty.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:20 PM
Mar 2014

I saw the word "agreeance" in a document I was proofreading, which was written by a high school principal.

I also heard a teacher ask, "Who are we versing?" in reference to an athletic contest.

There are many more... but these two examples are painful enough.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
29. They left out the worst one
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 12:41 PM
Mar 2014

For some reason, it has become common to use an apostrophe to form a plural. "I never support the Republican's...."

There may be languages that do that, but English isn't one of them.

The use of "you and I" as a direct or indirect object is the most maddening of the ones listed, and it has been in use for decades. I have heard it in a Doors song ("Touch Me&quot and even on a Mark Knopfler song on the "Golden Heart" album.

Way back in elementary school, our teacher gave us the simplest way of all to know which to use: she asked which we would say, "Please do this for I" or "Please do this for me" and told us that if we would never say "Please do this for I" we should also never say "Please do this for you and I."

zanana1

(6,122 posts)
34. Am I the only one who thinks this one sounds a bit too trendy?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:28 PM
Mar 2014

"That was so fun". Am I wrong to think that it should be "That was so much fun?"

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
35. What's given as a rule about punctuation (number 6) is oversimplified.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:01 AM
Mar 2014

It's universal to place question marks and exclamation points either inside or outside the quotation marks, according to the sense. If the mark is part of the matter being quoted, such as a title, it goes inside, otherwise outside.

There is no universal standard for commas and periods. The "logical" style of treating them the same way as other marks, i.e., placing them according to the sense, is more common in British English. Always placing them inside the quotation marks, which some think produces a more esthetically pleasing effect, is more common in American English.

British style: His best-known story is "The Gift of the Magi".
American style: His best-known story is "The Gift of the Magi."

Even this distinction isn't a sharp one, though. For example, in American legal writing, the logical style is prescribed when quoting a statute, because the presence or absence of a comma or a period in the text you're quoting might change the meaning.

Fuller elaboration here.

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