As an Irish Decendant...CAN'T WE HAVE BETTER FOOD????

[Ryano42]

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EWWWWWW....



OOOF...



HORRRRFFFF!!!!



Isn't there an Irish Chimichanga or SOMETHING???

[riderinthestorm]

1. The best Irish "food" groups are liquid - Bushmills, Jamesons, Baileys, Irish coffee

and Guinness.

But I will say I make a lovely Irish soda bread you'd drool over. Served with either my steak and Guinness pie, potato leek soup, or lamb stew and I might make you a believer in good Irish cooking!

[pinboy3niner]

2. !

[Raine1967]

17. Please can I have some? nt

[Aristus]

3. Soda bread can be wonderful if it's made right.

And I love Guinness stew.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

6. Then you might like this!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/115740142

[Sanity Claws]

26. One great thing about soda bread

You can use the leftover bread as a doorstop.

[Arcanetrance]

4. Steak and Guinness one even tho I'm not sure how Irish it actually is

[bigwillq]

5. Corned beef and cabbage is delish!

[Lady Freedom Returns]

7. +1

[riderinthestorm]

8. It is! Its what's on the table at my house tonight. nt

[bigwillq]

19. Had it tonight (well, Monday night!) for dinner

My Italian Mom made it and it was so good.

[baldguy]

9. +1000

But of course - just as with anything - if it's done bad it tastes bad.

And beer that gets dyed green is a waste of beer.

[bigwillq]

18. Ugh. Not a fan of green beer.

It is a waste. No need to dye it. Just drink it as is.

[KurtNYC]

23. And great on rye with some mustard the next day

[magical thyme]

10. colcannon

Colcannon is traditionally made from mashed potatoes and kale (or cabbage), with milk (or cream), butter, salt and pepper added. It can contain other ingredients such as scallions, leeks, onions and chives. There are many regional variations of this dish.[1] It is often eaten with boiled ham or Irish bacon. At one time it was a cheap, year-round staple food,[2] though nowadays it is usually eaten in autumn/winter, when kale comes into season.[3]

An old Irish Halloween tradition is to serve colcannon with a ring and a thimble hidden in the fluffy green-flecked dish. Prizes of small coins such as threepenny or sixpenny bits were also concealed in it.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colcannon



The song "Colcannon", also called "The Skillet Pot", is a traditional Irish song that has been recorded by many artists, including Mary Black.[4][6] It begins:


"Did you ever eat Colcannon, made from lovely pickled cream?
With the greens and scallions mingled like a picture in a dream.
Did you ever make a hole on top to hold the melting flake
Of the creamy, flavoured butter that your mother used to make?"

The chorus:


"Yes you did, so you did, so did he and so did I.
And the more I think about it sure the nearer I'm to cry.
Oh, wasn't it the happy days when troubles we had not,
And our mothers made Colcannon in the little skillet pot."

[DebJ]

21. That sounds yummy! n/t

[magical thyme]

32. it is. having a 2nd helping for lunch right now.

my version, based on veges currently in my freezer, includes spinach, brocolli and a sprinkling of corn.

Using carola potatoes, which are the best for mashing. I also like to make it with my purple peruvians for the green on lavender effect

[OriginalGeek]

11. I looooooove corned beef and cabbage

No True Irishman® would drink green beer. That's all American. We can fuck up anything - even beer.

[kwassa]

12. Pretty dull stuff, I agree.

Speaking as someone of English heritage, equally bad. Nothing of interest. Move along here.

Now, Thai food, on the other hand ...

[Chan790]

13. Not one of those things are truly Irish (Corned beef is interesting; authentic Irish recipes inside)

Green beer is a jokey publicity thing started by bars in the 1980s to sell more shitty domestic beer on St. Paddy's Day. Blame Anheuser-Busch and Miller.

The cabbage is generic to most of Europe, so it's also not really indicative of Ireland.

Corned beef is interesting...it's the most distinctly Irish-American of the lot, but it's explicitly Irish-American and not Irish. It's the centerpiece of a story of assimilation and two oppressed ethnic and religious minorities in the Lower East Side of Manhattan: Irish-Catholics and Ashkenazi Jews. The story goes something like this...in the 1890s-1910s, there was a massive influx of Irish-Catholics to the United States and specifically NYC. The cause of this was in part famine and the larger part was that the British government, desperate to eliminate the Catholic issue in the Isles and in Ulster in particular, was willing to pay the fare for any Irish-Catholic willing to leave Ireland for the Americas. At the same time, there was a wave of ethnic oppression and pogroms in Eastern Europe: Germany, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Russia and Ukraine. To escape the violence, large numbers of Ashkenazi emigrated to the US Northeast, mainly NYC. Both groups arrived into a sustained Nativist movement (Nativist in this sense can be read as white-supremacist) who viewed both groups as invaders, non-white and not welcome...they found themselves shunted into the same ghettos, the same ones Jacob Riis would make a name for himself photographing. Jewish kosher butchers needed customers as the Nativist population would not frequent their businesses. The Irish needed affordable sources of food prepare-able in the style of their accustomed cuisine (stews and boiled dinners were the standard table-fare of Ireland. Beef was a luxury back home abundant here). Corned beef is typically made from the brisket, a tough cut of meat with little appeal which made it cheap. However, it takes preservation well, the process actually making it more tender...and it holds together boiled. Thus, this odd preserved beef product became a beloved staple of poor Irish households; it was viewed as both luxurious and familiar...beef in Ireland was typically heavily-salted to preserve and store it.

If you want more traditional fare, someone posted a recipe for colcannon upthread. Alternately, you could make Stobhach Gaelach (Mutton Stew), Boxty, Poached Salmon with Irish Butter Sauce or a traditional Shepherd's Pie.

[DebJ]

22. Cool! Thanks for the story! n/t

[MADem]

14. Actually, that's the red corned beef. The traditional is GRAY.

It looks like hell but it tastes great.

That "boiled dinner" with some mustard is flat-out delicious. Hold the beets, though--I don't like beets.

Go to Galway and have some fish. And have some tayties. And any seasonal vegetable. They are delicious.

I've had some great meals in Ireland. Not complicated, but well seasoned, fresh ingredients, and really, really tasty.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

15. I'm not Irish, and I'm not complaining

because I was gifted some delicatessen food yesterday. So for 2 nights in a row I've had corned beef on fresh pumpernickel, with sauerkraut, Havarti cheese, sauteed onions and Dijon mustard. Shoulda picked up some beer to go with it though.

[mrmpa]

16. I'm of Irish descent (Dad) and Polish descent (Mom)....

I had a dentist once, whose Mom & Dad were from Ireland and he told me that he never knew food could taste so good until he married a woman of Polish descent. His mother just about boiled everything, his wife on the other hand not only cooked Polish food, but Italian, German and "American" foods.

[blueamy66]

30. I'm 1/4 Irish, 1/4 German and 1/2 Polish!

We ate damn good!

[dr.strangelove]

20. None of those are Irish, they are all American!

Corned beef, at least what we eat here on st. Patty's day, is NOT an Irish dish. What the Irish called salted pork was a type of bacon. It was VERY expensive and not affordable. After immigration, the only meats that were affordable were the Jwish deli salted meats, and corned beef became a staple in teh poor Irish communities. It has nothing to do with Ireland and everythign to do with American urban history. In Boston, NY and even Chicago, the Irish groups were poor and stuck eating this cheap meat.

Ireland has AMAZING foods. Go to Dublin and walk around in Temple Bar. Some of the best restaurants are there. Have some Coddle (a tasty sausage dish with bacon, onions and of course potatos). Or try the Kale Colcannon, which is a great veggie casserole. Of course the pub classics like Steak and Guinness pie, Irish stew, shepherd’s pie and potato and leek soup are always a hit in our house. Add some soda bread with soft butter and you have some great irish dishes.

Just please, don;t hang that awful boiled meat on the Irish. It is not ours. Silly Americans fal prey to meat marketers. As for beer, so self respecting irishmen would drink any beer that is green. Cabbage on teh other hand is a great veggie, just not served ina pot with boiled meat.

[DebJ]

24. We have an Irish Restaurant here that I've been too once and wish we could go to again.

My primary interest is that it was a DIFFERENT kind of menu. After 58 years on this planet, food gets
rather boring...especially US restaurant food of the variety found in this little town. Unfortunately hubby
can never eat out again in this lifetime since he didn't manage his diabetes and high blood pressure
as he should have (as in, trying at all), and now has kidney disease. I'll have to try to go with a friend
some time. It looked great to me!

[BeyondGeography]

25. I miss my Irish grandmother's roast beef and gravy

She was an irreplaceable genius at gravy.

[Ryano42]

27. All the ideas are awesome!

Especially the Soda Bread and Colcannon!

I knew my brothers and sisters of DU would come to the rescue!

[LiberalEsto]

28. It could be worse

[winter is coming]

29. Looks like okay food for dead people to me. n/t

[hedgehog]

31. Most of what we inAmerica think of as "Irish food" is based on the

poverty food of the Irish immigrants who came to America.

For example - my Irish grandmother never served corned beef, but always had ham in the house.

Today the Irish in Ireland pride themselves on excellent, world class cooking:

http://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/food/