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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsNo more vitamin supplements.
In 2014 the "supplement industry" is getting no more money from me.
No multivitamins, no minerals, no herbals.
It's kind of like drinking beer except there's no buzz from the vitamins. I'm tired of being the middle man for expensive pee.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Unless told by a doctor, there's no need to take multivitamins. They're a waste of money.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I take vitamin E because I would get leg cramps at night and with vitamin E the leg cramps are gone. I take vitamin B-12 because I am a vegetarian and need the extra protein. I take Biotin because my hair had been thinning and Biotin has helped immensely to curb my hair loss.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I take folic acid for leg cramps. Seems to help. I take some other supplements too, for various reasons.
BTW, my dermatologist recommended biotin for weak, splitting nails.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)The natural hormone greatly decreases in our body as we age and it helps me to get a good night's sleep. I take 10 mg time-released and I never experience morning-after hangover, unlike the effect of commercial sleep aids.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)But as an all-purpose "health aid" they're kinda useless. In most cases you'd probably be better off trying to get more vitamins from your diet, except where that isn't possible (e.g. vegetarians and B-12).
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)and I don't anymore.
She knows her stuff.
RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)You don't absorb 100% of the nutrients. Why waste your $$$?
McDs from now on!
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)up a few months ago.
First it was the women's multivitamins because I didn't need the extra iron after menopause.
Switched to the Plus 50 multivitamins but then noticed that they contain nickel, which I'm very allergic to. On my skin, anyway. But why take chances...so I quit them altogether and now only take vitamin C (because I bruise too easily without it) and vitamin D3 (for depression).
Don't feel any worse now than when I was taking the multivitamins, so...
astral
(2,531 posts)We are virtually all of us minerally-deficient, and have known for decades our produce does not have adequate vitamins and minerals in it any longer, and of course it's more severe now. We do have to self-educate, though, to find out what we really need. Most of us have to prioritize what we need the most.
In a nutshell, how about this concept: farmers supplement their farm animals to prevent disease, so why would that law of nature not apply to humans?
Do as you please; learn what you want.
Threads that pretty much begin and end with "We Don't Need To Hear About It" have always baffled me here. Extra mineral supplements that include all those scary-sounding trace minerals are needed, unless you live in and / or get your food from a minerally-rich location. Our aches and pains from 'getting older' can largely be healed through proper supplementation. I notice anything I buy anymore doesnt tell me what it is good for much, the FDA has put the kabosh on that, but you can find out about what's good for you by going online. Contradictions abound, I know, it confuses me too.
What I take (inconsistently) is iodine, turmeric, liquid minerals, magnesium, and some herbal liquid extracts. I want to get more consistent in what I eat, I saw lots of good ideas I had forgotten about on that place online that just says 'nuts' but they sell alot more than nuts.
It does matter what we eat and drink. Somehow the medical profession seems to be trying to tell us that there is no correlation between our state of health and what we do (and don't) put into our bodies.
It is not just which vitamins you need or don't need, which can vary from person to person, it's the quality of the brand you buy -- do they care how it is harvested, where from, how it is processed, how long it keeps its potency, should it be refrigerated, and also which things work together synerginistically and what should not be taken together, on a full / empty stomach, etc. There is a lot to learn about how to be healthy. Like turmeric, which is anti-inflammatory and can help with joint pain and general pain, not like a one-time magic pill, but if you take it with piperine, the thing that comes from black pepper, its effect is multiplied. I have been getting slightly achy knees for the first time this year, aging, arthritis, not walking enough, I don't know. But I picked back up on the turmeric and it seems to be helping after only a couple weeks.
I would like to hear more people's experiences on supplementing here, not just throw the baby and the thread out with the bathwater.
Remember, while doctors MAY be experts on health and supplementation, they don't need to be and many of them aren't, don't know a thing about the subject, maybe even most of them.
MizzM
(77 posts)I also take turmeric. As you say, it is a great anti-inflammatory. I take that in conjunction with hyaluronic acid, which is for lubrication of the joints. So between the two of them, it has definitely made a difference in the discomfort in my hips (both of which have been fractured and now have arthritis in them.)
I also take Fish Oil for the Omega 3s - straight from the bottle. Definitely an acquired taste.
I tend to buy the best quality I can afford, which generally means not buying in a drug store.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)And I use lots of spices in my cooking.
I know about the turmeric/black pepper deal, because of Indian food (which can be mildly intoxicating with the right blend of spices).
orleans
(34,060 posts)got to remember these
good thread. i don't take any vitamins & now i'm finding out what i should be taking!
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)I am 74 and my hair begin thinning when I was in my 60s. I started taking biotin and it has stopped the thinning. I think without the biotin, I would be half bald now. I had a friend in her 40s whose hairline started drastically receding. She took mega doses of biotin and it helped restore here hairline.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I'm still on the fence. I haven't taken a multivitamin regularly since I was last pregnant 7 years ago. I wonder if that was a mistake, though, because last summer I turned up with a vitamin D deficiency in my blood tests. I wonder if even the small amount in a multi-vitamin would've helped.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)My doctor had me take 50,000U of D2 once a week for 12 weeks (I was very deficient) and then retested me and I was good. I'm a very fair skinned red head that works in an office and always wears sunblock. Since it's a fat soluble vitamin it's important to not over take it.
I started sleeping a lot better once I got my vitamin D level up I noticed.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)I was told 2000 IU/day for 12 weeks then 1000/day after that (for forever, I was told) but the nurse I talked to told me it was okay to take as much as 5000/day for the first bit if I wanted to get my levels up quickly. I was never retested - doctor didn't think it was necessary - but I did notice a huge difference. I try to take it every day but I have to be careful because it causes leg cramps. That's funny you say you slept better - I was already sleeping too much and the vitamin D helped my fatigue. If I take it at night it keeps me awake!
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I was very deficient. He said he'd keep testing during my physicals, and I shouldn't be surprised if in a couple years I need to take it again.
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
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Acidophilus, a friendly bacteria solves all sorts of issues.
Vitamin E - yep - notice a difference if I leave it alone too long.
Vitamin D in winter when not getting much sun,
Vitamin A for circulation - helps with leg cramps and cold feet,
B vitamins for smoking and nerves,
and so on
The above is what the benefits are for ME - not recommendations for others.
Been doing the self-analysis for decades on what does what for me, with research from numerous sources of course.
Don't do a whole regimen on a daily basis, and don't worry if I miss a day or two on my two "regulars",
Acidophilus and vitamin E.
I drink, I smoke, I eat "unhealthy" foods, yet I have almost no ailments, no colds, flus, aches and pains (including headaches - one or two a YEAR for me is a lot!) like some of the "health nuts" I know who only eat organics, no red meats, don't drink or smoke and so on.
Some of them are the most chronically ill people I know! Explain that one . . .
Closest thing I can figure out is that with all the "garbage" I put in my body,
I must have one hell of an immune system!
Whatever, my regime WORKS for me.
CC
gvstn
(2,805 posts)I consider a vitamin supplement just that a supplement. Of course, it would be best to get all the vitamins your body needs from your diet but that isn't necessarily the case for most people. I see no down-side to giving your body an extra potential source of vitamins in reasonable amounts.
You take the basic vitamins that are depleted by a smoker which makes sense.
These days I just take a multi-vitamin a few times a week although I could probably use C + D as individual tabs at a different time of day. E is one that I am up on the fence about since the data changes every few years but a reasonable dose couldn't hurt. The B Complexes tend to make me sleep uneasily so I gave them up, but for those with lethargy problems I would recommend them because they definitely have an effect on me.
I take the Complete capsules that Andrew Lessman sells on HSN. They are a fine powder and seem more likely to be digested than the old One-A-Days of yesteryear that seemed to pass through one's digestive system intact. I'm sure there are many similar brands out there.
For those worried about expensive pee, do you forgo asparagus because it makes your pee smell bad and therefore is just an unnecessary expensive with no nutritional value--or do you still eat it because you know not all of it ends up in your pee and you probably absorb some nutrition? I'd offer that just because vitamin B changes the color of one's pee does not mean it is a useless vitamin. Something to consider before dissing vitamin supplements out of hand.
mucifer
(23,553 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)And what sort of process does the production of supplements rely on?
Cheese and eggs are good sources of B-12 and if local and organic would appear to be "non-exploitative". I have several vegan friends who eat eggs from their own chickens and see no contradiction.
mucifer
(23,553 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)Wheatgrass. Mega b12, only known vegan source.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)pink-o
(4,056 posts)You take it because it's so good for you.
And actually, Jamba Juice does a shot of freshly squeezed wheatgrass, followed by some orange slices. It's totally palatable.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Turns out that the enzyme in the stomach that breaks down b12 is the same enzyme that breaks down meat. After forty years of being a committed vegan (since the mid fifties), his stomach stopped producing the enzyme. While he was still eating lots of b12 containing vegetables, his stomach wasn't breaking it down. Studies showed that for a long time, as many as one-third of Alzheimer's diagnoses were actually b12 protein deficiencies. It weakened his brain to the point that by the time we started getting him injections it was too late.
BuddhaGirl
(3,608 posts)Not everyone eats the perfect diet which has all necessary vitamins and minerals.
I take a variety of supplements, some every day, others only occasionally.
Fish oil, and turmeric/berberine, CoQ10 and a multi I take every day. Sometimes I add a digestive enzyme, or a liver support. Melatonin or GABA for sleep, if necessary.
It's a personal choice.
GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)and your local "pharmacy" are a waste of money. you just shit them out without digesting them, much less assimilating whatever cheap source of "nutrients" they contain.
but, i swear by supplements made by reputable companies that use only the highest quality and purest forms of nutrients that the body can easily assimilate and utilize. and, they do not have to be the most expensive.
i take a multiple from source naturals to fortify my immune system, evening primrose oil capsules, and some extra magnesium every day.
every other day i drink an emergen-c and twice a week i take an effervescent powder form of vitaminb-12/b-complex for pernicious anemia (lack of vitamin b-12).
if it were not for these supplements and my healthy eating habits and regular exercise, i would have died by the age of 50 due to an autoimmune condition i've had since childhood.
gracias a la vida!