The Walking Dead 4.6 "Live Bait" (Spoiler Alert)

[NewJeffCT]

"Group members struggle to find their humanity while being constantly threatened."

Interesting note - my Dish Network has Jon Bernthal listed on tonight's episode. Flashback? Hallucination? Mistake by Dish?

Spoiler TV has a bit here, too, but I'll only include the link:
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-walking-dead-episode-45-live-bait.html#ixzz2kuZuC1Je

[NewJeffCT]

1. kick

For Hershel

[texanwitch]

2. He carried the show last week.

Poor guy broke down and cried.

He will be back.

Everyone has a job to do.

[NewJeffCT]

3. Not sure if you've read the comic or not

but, I like TV Hershel better than comic Hershel

The opposite of Dale - I liked him better in the comics.

[texanwitch]

4. I have read a little of the comics.

The comics are to dark for me.

Once I started to watch the show, I have really stopped reading the comics.

I blame the guy who wouldn't let Hershel check his kid.

That kid turned into a walker that bit his father and killed the woman with friendly fire shot.

Those two able bodied people could have been a big help to Hershel.

[Vashta Nerada]

5. The comics are plagued by horrible writing.

I love the idea of The Walking Dead comics, but Robert Kirkman shouldn't be writing them.

[texanwitch]

6. I knew about the comics for a long time before the show.

I had a hard time reading them.

To dark.

The show is dark but not nearly as bad.

If the show was like the comics I wouldn't watch the show.

[NewJeffCT]

9. well, the Walking Dead is kind of his baby

he was the creator. I think the show also has suffered in the writing department as well.

[texanwitch]

10. The writing could be better.

I still like the show.

I like the idea of the show.

The actors have been great.

Last week was intense.

[NewJeffCT]

7. Yes, the comics are even darker

than the TV show.

with Tyreese and his daughter Julie and her boyfriend, and how Julie & the boyfriend ended up was pretty gruesome.

[texanwitch]

8. I would do a quick glance looking the comic books.

I am glad to show is different.

[NewJeffCT]

11. here we go

starting now

[texanwitch]

12. They left him.

How did he fit in that tent.

Was that Carol he was talking to.

He looks rough.

[Baitball Blogger]

26. I missed that part.

I missed the first few minutes.

[Brigid]

13. Looks like the Governor has hit pay dirt.

And one of them says she was a cop.

[texanwitch]

14. With a lot of guns.

I would never say I had a lot of guns.

Lying about his name.

Who are these women.

These women talk to much.

Rule one in a walker world, keep your mouth shut with strangers.

[Brigid]

15. The Governor just found a gun.

What is this place -- a nursing home or something?

[NewJeffCT]

16. I don't think so

maybe, though?

[texanwitch]

17. Looks like apartment building.

The women said they just stayed waiting for the National Guard to show up.

They had all the food, and guns.

They seemed to have made it so far.

Now the Gov shows up.

I am not going to look at a nursing home the same again.

The Gov has 9 lives.

[NewJeffCT]

18. i keep expecting him to snap

and kill the two women and the girl

[texanwitch]

19. Me to.

He is still a little weak.

Give him time.

He is a broken man right now.

[graywarrior]

22. They're making me like him

I know they're gonna crush us later

[Brigid]

20. Wow.

The Governor is really bonding with Megan.

[texanwitch]

21. Another Penny.

Pinky swear.

Why all the damn commericals.

[NewJeffCT]

23. I wonder if Penny had never turned

if The Guv would have been okay

[texanwitch]

25. I don't trust him.

He needs a group again.

A whole different Gov.

This show is becoming a little Walking Dead and a lot of commericals.

Must be making a lot off these commericals.

[NewJeffCT]

24. you almost feel sorry for him

until you remember what he did last year.

[texanwitch]

27. Almost is right.

Makes you wonder now why he was standing by the prison.

Maybe to find a place for the women and little girl.

Who knows.

[NewJeffCT]

28. does that one woman remind anybody else of Maggie

not the fake police woman.

[texanwitch]

30. I don't know yet.

They were stupid about walkers.

Didn't know a dead person turned into a walker.

Even the town people knew better.

[Hayabusa]

29. Woman named Lily with a sick dad,

who's father is is killed right before her, causing a massive split in the group...

Is this the TV version of the TellTale Games' Lily?

[dawg]

39. Lilly is responsible for some big things in the comics.

I was straining my ears to see if someone would mention the last name "Caul" but I did not hear it.

[Brigid]

31. David Morrissey is on "Talking Dead."

[NewJeffCT]

32. quite a twist at the end

Martinez...

[texanwitch]

33. I see a fight coming.

Martinez looks like a leader of his little group.

[NewJeffCT]

34. maybe

should be interesting next week

[texanwitch]

35. Our prison group is doing pretty good even with the flu.

They have wheels, gas, food, and meds.

High living compared to the this other group living in a tent.

[NewJeffCT]

36. the three women

and their father were doing okay for themselves, up until the end.

[texanwitch]

37. But did they have a garden.

How many meat products can you eat.

They were doing OK.

I am sure the went looking for can food.

[texanwitch]

38. Now they go make the Gov into a good guy looking out for three people.

Everybody hates him and now we are suppose to forget what he did at the prison.

[Vashta Nerada]

40. 48 minutes through the encore presentation and wow.

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The Governor is likable in this episode! David Morrissey is one hell of an actor.

[Vashta Nerada]

41. Looks like the next episode will also be a Governor-centric episode.

I wonder why they're going away from the prison group (not that I mind...I like the Governor-centric episodes).

[texanwitch]

42. Have to give the prison group time to recover from the flu.

A story line has to be set up to bring the Gov to the prison.

Also to make us wait for Rick to tell Darly about Carol.

[NewJeffCT]

44. Unfortunately

The governor was outside the prison as they were wrapping up dealing with the flu.

[NewJeffCT]

43. yes, he was likeable

but, as I said above, I kept expecting him to snap.

[Baitball Blogger]

45. So, who is Brian Heriot?

[NewJeffCT]

46. the graffitti on the wall

from earlier in the episode. All the names of people, one of the more prominent was Brian.

[Baitball Blogger]

47. I saw that. I just wondered if it will come back to haunt him.

[NewJeffCT]

48. I thought it might last night

when he said that.

[NewJeffCT]

49. OK, Brigid, TexanWitch and other women

did you feel last night's episode was anti-woman at all?

[texanwitch]

50. I only watched the episode twice so far and dvr is back home.

The two women were rather stupid.

They must never have left the the apartment.

They had no idea that dead people came back as walkers.

Or how to kill them.

The two women seemed so helpless.

We are used to the women at the prison kicking ass.

These two women and the little girl would be walker food without the Gov.

[Solly Mack]

51. I just got around to watching the latest episode. (family matter prevented a Sunday viewing)

I really don't like the Governor. I really don't care about his travails. I don't buy for a second that he's changed.

He found a new Penny (and 2 other followers). Pretty much says it all. Their helplessness feeds his psychopathology. As long as they need him, look up to him, obey him - they'll be OK. But if he sees them as disobedient ever- he'll feed them to a walker like he did Andrea. If he decides they have betrayed him then he'll turn on them. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to kill off the mother and the aunt so the little girl is left with only him as the parent figure.

If New-Penny dies he'll blame Rick and Michonne in his twisted mind.

Rick because...

That somehow because they are living in the prison he wanted but was denied that they are to blame since New-Penny would have been safe if only he had the prison.

and Michonne because...

Well, she did take Dead-Penny away from him and shattered that delusion.

Even if New-Penny doesn't die the Governor will still want the prison for pretty much the same reasons. Gotta save his shiny New-Penny.

He has to kill Rick to take the prison and has to kill Michonne to protect the New-Penny.

Martinez only thinks he's in charge. The Governor knows how to bide his time; especially since he has a new mission. (See a penny, pick it up......and this penny is heads up...maybe) We'll see.

They are raiding camps to steal resources...the prison will definitely be at the top of the list of places to raid. For the Governor, anyway. And he knows how to manipulate people, so the others might decide to follow him and not Martinez.


I got the feeling from Talking Dead that Carol is coming back and that she will run across the Governor. Seemed to me that DM had a bit of a slip when talking about the possibility and changed his tenses rather quickly.

As an aside, Michonne has shitty tracking skills. The sicko was never far away and she still couldn't find him. Daryl should have gone out.