I am going to clean up my Jury Blacklist today.
There are several folk on it who no longer post here (either having moved on with their lives or been banned), or who don't have much chance of ever being on a jury thanks to the New Rules.
I'm going to keep a few I am still holding a grudge against from the days of Meta.
Heavens, I hated Meta. That cess pit still gives me nightmares! 
But I 
the Lounge, even when I don't visit as often as I should.
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I have ten left. The stats are quite interesting.
4 have 100% chance of being on juries, with no hidden posts. I have been debating removing them for a while thinking the nasty issues were because they could while in Meta. All four have made posts I have recommended in the past, so I think of them as "Good DU folk" who just didn't know me well enough to know I don't tell lies (hence the Meta issues).
2 have 60% chance of being on juries only because they aren't Star Members. One has a personal problem, and the other joined that team, but generally is a good DUer otherwise with some nice insights into things on regular occasions.
4 have small chances of being on juries and histories of having their posts hidden due to excessive Snark. Honestly, these posters have insulted so many people over the years they probably don't even remember my grievance, but since I can't trust them, they are staying on the list. Their "biting wit" can be funny sometimes, and with a message board, they can get a little "fast and loose" with courteous behavior, but truthfully, they are not "bad" people - just kind of obnoxious.
That leaves me with a couple of hundred thousand people to jury my posts when I say things other people don't like.
I'm good for now; I'll revisit the list in December and see if I want to start the new year with a clean slate. Maybe I will even reach out to my "Ignore" person to see if we can make peace.
Ah, living the dream of "why can't we all just get along?" I am *such* a Democrat!!! 
It felt ... good.
Report your stats, if you are willing. I am curious as to how it falls out for other people. 
I've only had one post juried on DU3 that I know of, and it was apparently widely considered one of the silliest hides ever. (It was so crazy an alert and hide that I started a thread about it -- the alert and hide left pretty much everybody who saw it scratching their heads.)
I took everybody off of my ignore list for my 60th birthday -- I had no memory of who many of the ignored were, while some names were quite familiar. Kind of a birthday reprieve, which lasted an entire day before I started re-adding some of the well-remembered repeat offenders plus my personal troll. 
It was an "odd" hide; didn't you post about it in "Ask the Admin"?
It is a big message board, with all kinds of personalities. I think one person finally put me on ignore because I use a lot of bold, italics and smilies in my posts, and it just drove her crazy.
I like that we can't see how many are ignoring us now. It gives me the illusion that more people like me than not.
I remember because it was such an ... odd ... hide.
who Skinner has on his Blacklist ...
now that is something -I- would like to know 
Also, I love your little kitty gif - adorable!
I don't want to hurt his feelings, but if he is okay with some Lounge foolishness (and is okay with wasting a little bit of jury time), then I will do it.
But if he doesn't want me to, then I will respect that, because Skinner and the Team are awesome.
or
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your alert
Mail Message
At Thu Nov 14, 2013, 09:35 AM you sent an alert on the following post:
Go for it. You would not be the first person to alert on one of my posts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=4062
REASON FOR ALERT:
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS:
This poster is advocating for frivolous alerts
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Nov 14, 2013, 09:47 AM, and voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: (Insert histrionics here)
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This is a funny, I guess?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
I enjoyed it.
He is a member here, he serves on juries, he posts. What he hasn't done is be uncivil or post against the TOS.
Anyone could alert on one of his posts and he could review it himself but why would someone do this?
Because he is Skinner, of course. And we adore him!
Maybe the screen comes up with something fun, like: "You have alerted against one of the founders of the site - your account is ON HOLD until we review whether you are An Idiot."
(Elad could make that happen - he can do ANYTHING.)
I mean, seriously, wouldn't it be a totally trollish thing for people to alert on his posts and try to get his posting privileges revoked under the new rules? Juries end up all over the map around here - it could happen.
Plus, double dog-dare!!!
And no way am I going to try it just for an experiment without his permission.
(But I am curious....)
I seriously doubt Elad has programmed anything special for the admin accounts.
An no, PPR couldn't happen. For one, it's not automatic. Skinner said something like multiple alerts would be reviewed. I think that's the purpose of the Flagged for Review status - to prevent bully tactics and the PPR of a member who hasn't done anything wrong.
I know, I am being an old fuddy duddy here but it just doesn't seem that out there.
Of course, now I TRIPLE DOG DARE you! You can't back down now.
Still going to wait for a reply! Lol!
If he answers in my "ATA" post, I am going to suggest Elad program something special for the Big Three.
He is *very* smart. He could do it.
Maybe we could run a contest to come up with the wording when those alerts come through?
Remember the "heart" fundraisers? I wonder if people would donate if they could change some of the "auto messages" people get?
"YOU HAVE ALERTED ON ONE OF THE ADMINS - PREPARE FOR DEATH RAY DESTRUCTION!!!
Maybe enter a random messagebox generator with the top vote getters?
Yeah, I've entered into the realm of the silly about this!
I
the Lounge!
I think Skinner alerted on himself before you could!!!
Wait. 
Very witty, in a NICE way!
I do!
How is life treating you these days?
I have removed all from my Jury Blacklist and removed the restrictions on my ignored person.
Peace to all of us.
Thank you for the support.
-- and YOU started it. When I reached out to you to prove my integrity, and share some pretty amazing stuff, you reacted with scorn and derision. You've been on Ignore - the only person I've put there in years - were told you were going on Ignore, and have still shown up on threads I've made to post insulting and snarky comments (still implying that I am a snake-oil salesman, for example).
Angry? Yes. But willing to bury the hatchet (and I don't mean in your back!).
I don't know how you would handle seeing a kid confined to a wheelchair standing up and walking six weeks later, especially when you weren't sure if it was a "normal" thing to have happen (newsflash - it isn't), but I came here, asked for help, watched a thread drop like a stone, shrugged, and came back a few hours later to find my name being dragged through the mud.
There are still people who think I was "scamming" about what was going on, and you made one of those comments in this thread again, too.
I may be wrong about the causes, but I am not wrong about the results (see videos). You know darn good and well hyperspastic hands don't "magically go away" in four months for someone with this condition. I needed support. I needed answers. When the whole thing went down, my resources were all "preemie baby related" (because of the first "floppy baby" who "magically recovered" the previous year), and newsflash - since my kids *don't* have these issues, I needed to find people who knew what was going on.
I didn't even know the difference between hyperspastic and hypotonic symptoms. She could have been a coincidence. (She's not.)
Don't even get me started on the hoops we've been jumping through to get this investigated. Meanwhile, I work a full-time job, have young twins, was fighting a battle with a bank (we won!), and simultaneously trying to figure out what the heck was going on, why it was (and sometimes wasn't) working, and coordinate the whole blasted thing....
And you *still* want to categorize a post about a guy who told me he was approved for Disability (while he was doing heavy duty construction work for me) as making me someone who *doesn't* like people getting disability! Damn right I was judging him - I was also talking about my fury that the guy missing half a lung couldn't get it, but this guy was? The final update to the story: the tenant turned out *NOT* to be getting disability; he had relapsed into some criminal behavior/was making some money doing that, and shortly thereafter ended up getting evicted after he stole money, stole my lawnmower, got caught/returned it, threatened to assault the handyman, and after he was evicted, the local "felony apprehension team" burst into the wrong building and harassed all of my other tenants trying to find him, even though he'd been gone by that point for nearly a month. (If my life was a movie, no one would ever believe it - lol! Sigh.)
Yes, I know I'll never get 100% agreement on DU or anywhere else. The difference is *you made it personal* and called me a liar.
It wasn't that you disagreed with my conclusions (don't care), refused to look at the data (annoying!), called me ignorant and uninformed (was blatantly admitting it) and dangerous (who knows?) - you called me a liar, trying to prey on vulnerable people (!), got me compared to BEV HARRIS (!), and then you started a little attack mob that jumped on the bandwagon in a way that I'd never seen before the whole "DU Meta Debacle."
You took my safe place, and made it Not Safe. 
I almost walked away from the whole thing after one of your meta attack threads, because seriously, who needed the hassle? And just where, pray tell, could I talk about what was going on? Who was there to excitedly share research articles with? Try to find patterns of improvement (or lack thereof) in different conditions? Remember, I'm not a medical professional, and I was still learning the difference between "research folk" (who are harder than you would think to get in touch with) and "clinicians" (who get excited, but don't write the papers). (NOTE: A few months later that place was found - turned out to be on Facebook in a Parent Group - moms of special needs kids are experts at google-fu!)
Stress? YES, there was (and still is) stress -- I apparently had pieces of a puzzle that no one else (IN FIFTY YEARS!) had put together. And I may be wrong (I'm not), but to my overwhelmed and excited brain, this was a game changer.
And you were Really Mean to me. (whine...sigh.)
I ended up quoting some of the meta attack comments in the video series last year --
“CP is not reversible for anyone; Saying so is appalling.”
“…selling snake oil…”
“…a horrific scam…”
“…selfish, irresponsible, and possibly dangerous…”
“…an intentional effort to dupe and mislead…”
“(C)hildren with CP don't have their spasticity just 'poof' disappear because they took a frigging vitamin.”
“Any "cure" is going to require something a lot more invasive, sophisticated and technical than nutritional supplements.”
Sigh. Every single comment provably WRONG. (Well, it is *minerals* and vitamins are important, too!)
And here is another truth: at one level, I owe you SERIOUS THANKS. I *knew* I was telling the truth about what I was seeing. I knew I wasn't "selling anything" (because my husband and I were having fights about how much money I was throwing at it until he cut me off - "we can't afford to save the world!" - lol!), I knew I wasn't scamming people ("it might not work!"
, and I knew this was important.
Like, scary stupid life-and-death IMPORTANT.
At one level, you motivated me. I Am NOT a Liar. Sometimes I am wrong, but I don't LIE.
And every time I was reminded of the situation, or you made a snark attack, my blood would boil with rage, and I would take that rage, and Do Something Useful with it, even though I was exhausted and frustrated and really sick of the whole thing....
Lady, YOU HELPED MOTIVATE ME.
THANK YOU. Seriously. THANK YOU.
As for letting it go, every time I see my jury list I remember it. I've made peace with a couple of the people involved since then, but you were a special one. You instigated the whole meta thing, and rejected my offering of proof, then kept making with the snark.
Worst of all, you had information and knowledge, and probably could have made some of this journey easier -- I would get so ANNOYED about the whole situation, at the same time, blaming myself - had I not been clear? Was I explaining it wrong? SO FRUSTRATING.
But then again, maybe it was for the best. I had to learn everything from the ground up, and that meant I walked into it with no assumptions about "what everyone always knows" which probably helped when the parents started reporting some of the wilder things (sensory processing issues going away starting at six weeks/gone by sixteen weeks, even for an autism only subset, but still only for the same 4 out of 5 kids - ARGH! - meaning it is all tied together).
Thank you for the acknowledgment about my sister. She wasn't perfect, and the upcoming holidays are always a rough time for us because of the loss. (We kind of got nailed three years in a row: we lost my grandmother between Christmas and New Years one year, my sister the next, and my father was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer two days before Christmas the following year/died a few months later.)
It is hard for me to hold grudges. I have to actively work on it. I'd like to let this one go. I hope you watched the video of the Neighbor Girl, and if you want to see more, I can share some of the links the parents have been posting. There is still so much work to be done, and frankly, I'm involved in some issues with my family at the moment, so I haven't been doing what I should be doing/am dropping the ball, and beating myself up pretty regularly about it.
I appreciate you reading this. I'm removing all of the Jury Blacklist people, and removing the "can't send DU mail" (last bit of the Ignore) from your name.
You might not feel you need it, but I forgive you, and also thank you for your part in this journey.
You are right. I need to let it go.
Peace.
(This way we can both be smug about it being the other one.)
And "cure" has to be in quote marks: "Cause/Prevention/Treatment" is how it is being explained at the moment, and only for certain types of the broad range of conditions of neuromuscular issues. 17% see zero benefit.
Have fun on your trip.
Go have a good weekend with your twins. We adults can always learn from young children about what's important, sometimes they have a much better perspective about life.
I will put a note about "PM me for the Link" because the family *really* doesn't want to be the public face of this, but has given permission for certain groups to see it. Unfortunately, the whole "I can't share it except privately" thing really fed the whole "you are a bad snake-oil salesman" thing last year. It was a complete rock-and-a-hard-place situation. She's doing well, by the way.
Again, the support is appreciated.
