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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsCashier forgot to charge me for $64 of merchandise. What to do? I need advise :(
I went to Kohl's last weekend because they had great sales and I had coupons and cash back totaling $45. I bought some Halloween decorations, several pants and a jacket for my 4-year old, a shirt for my husband, and those ultra comfy go walk shoes from Skechers ($64). I usually don't buy expensive stuff but I walk a lot and can't handle uncomfortable shoes.
Checking out, my total was about $50 and the cashier told me that I saved $140. I was elated. However, by the time I got home, I sensed something wasn't right. I looked at the receipt and she forgot to scan the shoes.
I wanted to go back but then I thought they might fire her for that oversight. I didn't want that. I still feel guilty for essentially stealing.
What would you do in that situation?
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It is stealing (I'm not judging you) in my book, and anyone can make an honest mistake.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)...you could even take the blame for it, something like it must have gotten into my cart without the cashier knowing it, or something like that.
You could also mention how nice she was, if you're concerned about her job.
But you have to take it back and make it right.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)Not sure what would happen if the management gets involved, but perhaps you can discretely talk to the checker and explain what happened. Let them scan it and pay.
Good karma always comes back in your favor!
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)I wouldn't be doing anything "discretely" in a major department store full of cameras.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Loss Prevention/Police: Um yea, sure, you really didn't pay because of a cashier mistake and NOW you want to pay. Um yea right. Pull my other finger. Why didn't you come back the same day or right away ?
You: Really honest, that's what happened....
Them: *Looking at you with complete suspicion*
avebury
(10,952 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)nolabear
(41,963 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts).... and move on with my life.
I wouldn't bother going back.
Your time is worth something too. In my mind, worth more than a return trip.
I could be biased because I just spent 4 hours Saturday in a Sprint store straightening out an account problem created by the Sprint rep's mistake when I upgraded a phone 2 weeks ago (spent 4 hours on that Saturday also).
tandot
(6,671 posts)that is what my husband said. However, I still feel bad about owning something that I didn't pay for.
I know that they add $$$ to every item because of people stealing stuff. I love those shoes and every step I am taking, they are saying "you didn't pay for us"
It was a mistake on both parts ... I should have checked the receipt before I left the store. But NOW that I know that I didn't pay for them, there is no way around it.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)There's an old wives tale that says if your shoes squeak they are stolen.
If your shoes are not squeaking leave it alone.
tandot
(6,671 posts)it is like walking on clouds
I like Rug's idea of donating money to a homeless shelter ... Maybe it would make me feel better?
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)what I would do, also.
Donate the money to a worthy cause.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Broken_Hero
(59,305 posts)I had a similar experience in Sept of 2007 at a local GameStop. It was close to my brothers Bday and he came down to visit and I took him to the GameStop so he could pick out a game. He picked out a Ninja Gaiden game for the PS3 and he got a tshirt and a players guide book for the Ninja Gaiden game.
I didn't really listen to the cashier when she rang it up, and I just handed her a 100$ bill. When I got home I got the receipt out so I could enter a 500$ gift card drawing that the GameStop puts on and I noticed that the lady didn't charge me for the Ninja Gaiden game which was about 60$. I went up to the GameStop the next day to pay for the game in full, because I didn't want anyone to get fired, and it was the right thing to do. My brother gave me shit about it aka "hey its free!" but I did return and pay for it in full.
eta:changed my subject line from "return them" to "and pay for them"
tandot
(6,671 posts)I agree, I will definitely go back and pay for them. I was feeling really bad ever since.
I am worried that once they know my name and have my debit card number, they could trace the cashier that checked me out. Maybe I should get some cash and pay for it without them knowing my name. The last thing I want is someone to get fired ... but I want to pay for the stuff I got.
Again, thanks. I'll try to find a way to pay for it without jeopardizing her job
rug
(82,333 posts)Donate the $64 to a homeless shelter.
My husband thinks that I or the cashier might get in more trouble trying to rectify the error. I emailed Kohl's customer service and see what they say. I love your idea of donating to a homeless shelter. Either way, I'll pay that money. A homeless shelter might be in more need than Kohls.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)If it was a small shop (not part of a large chain) I would return to the store to make things right.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)That's what I would do.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)No. It is not.
BTW, I am so glad I have someone following every singe one of my posts here. It makes me feel special.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and you will see, i replied to the OP. was happy to see so many people see the simple truth of the issue. then i came ot your post. so.... if that is following and it gives you a warm feeling, go at it.
tandot
(6,671 posts)I emailed Kohl's customer service to see what they have to say.
Either way, I'll pay $64 to either Kohl's or to some homeless shelter.
Thanks for your input!
MiddleFingerMom
(25,163 posts).
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How "guilty" would THAT make you feel? Don't mess with someone's livelihood just so you can feel better.
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I think donating the money to a homeless shelter is a WIN/WIN alternative.
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marzipanni
(6,011 posts)go to a cashier, tell them you noticed they weren't on your receipt when you got home, and pay. The cashier would just be grateful for your honesty, you don't need to show them the receipt that the shoes aren't on, they won't have to know who made the mistake.
It would be hard to walk out of a store with a shoebox- I thought most merchandise had little alarm strips stuck on or tucked in somewhere, or a clunky plastic thing the cashier has to remove... if she was on "automatic pilot" maybe she de-activated it and by handling it in her mind she had also scanned it.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)twice in different stores, a cashier forgot to remove one from something I purchased and when the alarm went off at the door I stopped but was waved out by the security guard.
tandot
(6,671 posts)I agree, she might have thought that she already scanned it and just put it in the bag.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)At least not for an honest mistake where there isn't a history of it.
The cashier will probably get written up and receive a bit of a talking to about being careful and not getting distracted while scanning items, because thieves will fluster cashiers on purpose in order to steal.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)But even getting written up could hurt the employee. I think if the OP has the opportunity to approach the cashier personally that would be best. If the customer (in this case the OP) is nice enough to catch the mistake, bring them back and pay for them, it should be no harm no foul.
lastlib
(23,233 posts)Take a Sharpie to anything that identifies the register or cashier, then go back.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)and tied to the camera system in such a way that the various information on the receipt (register number, time of transaction) can be used to bring up video of the transaction. That's what those customer surveys are for, if you complain a manager can look at the video and compare the complaint with the video of the transaction.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I would not take them back, simply for the hassle and as it may very well affect what is likely a much needed job by the checker. If the party feels guilty donate something to a charity.
Retail Loss Prevention Departments are generally a very "interesting" assortment of people, policies & philosophies (something of a cross between the Keystone Cops & the Secret Police), I would note the recent "shopping while black" issues in NYC at major stores there as one example of that.
applegrove
(118,658 posts)so you won't feel guilty about that. Play dumb about the cashier and when you bought them. Don't bring the receipt because it might have the cashier's code on it and the date and time. You don't need the receipt. If fact you can just take the shoes back and pay for them without explaining anything.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)back. But, I'd do it again.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)If they weren't rung up the cashier would only get in trouble if they figured out they were missed. Eventually when they do inventory they would come up a pair short and be counted as stolen. It affects the profitability of the store.
In the event you talk to a manager, then make him/her assure you that the cashier won't get in trouble. If I were you I might even take a copy of the receipt (not the original) and mark out where it identifies the cashier (that can be found pretty easily) and save the original.
If you can find the cashier, possibly she'll remember you and she can just handle it quietly for the sake of both of you.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)
just my two cents
if you don't, you ARE responsible "for essentially stealing"
who am I to judge though??
it's a slippery slope
inadvertandly walking out without paying for shoes one day, to intentionally taking a bag of beans because you're hungry (and can't afford food), to taking pencils from work, to robbing banks some day
do you really want to go there??
B Calm
(28,762 posts)I would keep quiet!
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So you can simply go back and pay for the shoes.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Smile.
MissMillie
(38,557 posts)I also understand your conscious is bothering you.
What about donating $64 to a local food bank or to the ASPCA? Would you feel better if you put that money to good use somewhere else?
Orrex
(63,212 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)When I got to my truck, I noticed that the top two were twenties, but the bottom one was a hundred dollar bill.
I went back in and told her what she had done. She was so happy, and told me that she would have had to cover the loss
from her own pocket. People in line congratulated me on being honest.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Pay for the shoes. That's the only right thing to do. It is that simple.
A couple of weeks ago, I went to the supermarket. I used the self-checkout lane. When I exited the store with the shopping cart and got to my car, I found a can of mixed vegetables in the cart that I hadn't scanned. So, I went back into the store with it, took it to the customer service counter and explained that I had missed this item at the self-checkout. The customer service person seemed surprised, but scanned the item. I gave her the 99 cents for it and returned to my car.
Just go to customer service in the store and handle paying for the forgotten shoes there. They're not going to go after the clerk who checked you out. They'll be surprised that you bothered to come back and you'll feel better about the transaction.
Doing the right thing is always the right thing, in my opinion.
AnneD
(15,774 posts)moral pop quizzes. They are not graded but your answers reveal much about your character.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)Callmecrazy
(3,065 posts)and you got them for free?
Move along. Nothing to see here.
tandot
(6,671 posts)I emailed Kohl's yesterday but haven't heard back.
My plan is to take just the empty shoe box that has the bar code to their customer service, explain the situation, and pay for the shoes with cash.
There is no need to bring the receipt, since they could use it to figure out which cashier rang me up. Also, since the cashier didn't scan the shoes, they are not on the receipt anyways.
I appreciate all the great input I've received from all of you.
Thanks!
Squinch
(50,949 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Would have never thought of it that way. It solves both the problem of trying to pay for them while not getting the cashier in trouble.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)is what we do (or don't do) when nobody is looking and nobody is likely to find out anyway.
I think that's a great solution.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)Response to tandot (Original post)
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grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Sienna86
(2,149 posts)Clerk won't get fired or dinged, and you do the right thing.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Donate the inadvertently ill-gotten merch.
Buy a new pair and walk around guilt-free.
tandot
(6,671 posts)After emailing Kohl's and explaining very clearly what happened and that I would like to pay for the item that the cashier forgot to scan, I got one of those form emails. They apologized that I am unhappy about the item I purchased and that they have a "No Question Asked - Hassle Free" return policy, and to just return the item for a refund or exchange it for another one.
So, their "customer service" didn't even read the email. Maybe they have a computer program that scans the emails for certain words and then automatically sends what it deems the appropriate form email back to the customer. Or maybe they just outsource the customer service to a foreign country and have people there who barely read/speak English.
Kohl's is a pretty big corporation and their response shows that they don't need my money.
So, I'll donate it to a local homeless shelter.
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Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Sometimes...
Kaleva
(36,301 posts)This one, IMHO, doesn't make you look so good.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)You should take the receipt, go back to the store and pay for the freaking shoes. Since you know you didn't pay for them, you're now justifying to yourself why it's okay to keep stolen merchandise.
This is how it should go:
Hold up receipt and set the shoe box down.
"I was in here on such and such day" (the receipt will confirm that you were in there).
"I noticed after I got home that these shoes weren't on my receipt, and this is the first time I've been able to make it back. I'd like to pay for these shoes."
Pay for the shoes.
Leave the store.
Secondly, you should donate to the local shelter (or wherever) since it's a good thing to do not because you need the self-redemption.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)It would suck if she lost her job...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)You were already at register, committed to spending that money. It is not a gift from universe. It was a mistake
Pay it
tandot
(6,671 posts)here is what I wrote in my OP:
"However, by the time I got home, I sensed something wasn't right. I looked at the receipt and she forgot to scan the shoes. "
The earliest I would have been able to go back is this weekend. I never claimed it was a "gift from universe"
Maybe read before commenting?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)progressoid
(49,990 posts)The rubber part of the sole that wraps around the tip of the toe is separating already. Haven't decided if I should go back to Kohls or just email Skechers directly to complain. I haven't even worn them much.
marzipanni
(6,011 posts)I tried on a pair of the slip-on Go Walks a couple of times and they were instantly comfortable. They do get good reviews, and a runner said the Resalyte soles last longer than you'd expect.
I know I've had other brands of walking/running shoes where the rubber sole wrap on the toe has begun to peel away.
A PSA about many "comfort shoes"- (I don't think Skechers have Polyurethane soles, but many comfortable shoes do)...
Years ago I bought some Ecco shoes on sale, and really liked them. The leather uppers were still in great shape when the sole started to crack across the ball of the foot and I thought it must be because I was crouching a lot attending to a toddler. A shoe repair man glued a layer on, but it didn't stick long. Later I saw the same style on sale and bought them, since I wasn't having to crouch much anymore. I only wore them occasionally and a couple of years later the soles of those cracked and turned Gooey! I searched on the internet to see if other people had this problem with Eccos, and there were bizarre tales of people walking along leaving their shoe soles in gooey bits behind them! There were accounts of how Ecco told customers who complained that "the soles are made of a special material that has to be exercised!" I emailed Ecco and they sent a mailer bag with instructions to send the shoes and $65.00 and they would resole them. Even though the uppers still looked almost new, I threw the shoes away.
This tells why molded polyurethane soles on "comfort shoes" fall apart-
http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/consumer/want-your-comfort-shoes-to-last-1.1310918#.UnKh7921-No
progressoid
(49,990 posts)They're pretty comfy. Too bad they're already falling apart.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)You should go back and pay for the shoes. Donating money to a non-profit makes you feel better, and that's a good thing to do. The legal thing to do is to pay for the merchandise.
benld74
(9,904 posts)her job may be affected.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)It would never occur to me NOT to return them immediately. However, I don't see a way I could miss a $70 discrepancy at the counter. Especially if my bill 50 and the shoes were 70. Math!!
IF, and a big if, I had this happen, the only reason I'd start a thread on DU about it would be to try and soothe my conscious because i knew I was wrong not to immediately take them back.
noamnety
(20,234 posts)Don't bring the receipt, they won't be able to track the cashier.
I've had it happen when it was my fault and other times when it was the cashier's fault - either way, next time I'm in the area, I go back and pay.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)Take the merch back and pay for them, and ask that the cashier should not be punished.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)I hope you got what you were looking for.
TYY
Bigleaf
(2,050 posts)store, do your best impression of the lady in the Ikea commercial. Run to your vehicle while screaming, "Start the car! Start the car!"
tandot
(6,671 posts)My 4-year old son was sick the last couple of days with a pretty nasty cold.
I am also sorry that I don't have too much time to individually reply to all of you. I know it is rude but I can't change that. I'll check back once he feels better.
I emailed Kohl's to explain what happened and to offer to pay for the mistake THEY made. I got one of those form emails back that made clear that they didn't even bother to read my email. Despite what I posted that I'll donate to a homeless shelter, it would still be wrong to not pay for the shoes. So, I'll do both. I agree with the response I got from some of the DUers...I was just really pissed. A lot of people would have just walked away not even bothering with it. I don't want to own stuff that I didn't pay for. However, I also didn't want anyone to get fired. The cashier never scanned in the shoes and she would have not been held responsible for the mistake SHE made.
Also, for me going "discreetly" back inside the store with the actual shoes that have NOT been scanned and paid for, is just asking for trouble. As some pointed out, some overzealous security person might think I did something wrong.
I'll post more on Sunday, after I had a chance to go back and straighten everything out.
I really appreciate all of your input. If I wouldn't care, I wouldn't have posted the OP.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)One, you can go back, buy the same pair of shoes (with cash) then "forget" them in the basket when you leave.
They'll probably hold them for a period of time in Customer Service, then put them back on the shelf when nobody claims them.
Two, you can go to customer service with the shoes, tell them what happened, and request that they scan and charge you for the shoes. Refuse to show them the receipt from your previous trip or reveal the identity of the previous checker, and pay with cash.
They get their money, you get your shoes, and the checker doesn't get grilled.
tandot
(6,671 posts)Again, I really appreciate ALL the posts I've gotten. The ranged from "windfall" to "how dare you not paying for the shoes" ...
I am not going to respond to each of your posts, put I learned a good lesson.
I went back to Kohl's today with the empty shoe box to pay for my purchase. The customer service clerk was very surprised and happy. While she was scanning in the bar code on the shoe box, she said that she'll give me 25% off. So, I paid
Price of the shoes: $64.99
minus 25% = $16.25
Plus Tax = $3.90
Total $52.64
On top of that, I got $10 cash back (for every $50 purchased) that I can cash when I make my next purchase. The whole transaction took less than two minutes ... no questions asked. I doubt they'll investigate which cashier was on duty and forgot to scan the item.
Also, I donated $100 to
Family Promise of Sacramento
donate@sacfamilypromise.org
9164433107
Most of the homeless shelters are run by religious organizations. I didn't have a lot of choices. However, they have a range of "guest churches" that help feed the needy:
Host Congregations
Bethany Presbyterian
BNai Israe
Calvary Lutheran
Carmichael Presbyterian
Beth Shalom
Faith Presbyterian
First UMC
Fremont Presbyterian
Grace Lutheran
Rancho Cordova UMC
St. Anthonys Catholic
St. Marks UMC
St. Johns Lutheran
Sierra Arden United Church of Christ
Trinity Episcopal Cathedral
Unitarian Universalist Society
Since Unitarian Universalist Sociaty was one of them, I think it was the best choice.
I'll probably not be able to check in for a couple of days. I can't express how much appreciate all of the replies. Thank YOU!
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)and that they didn't grill you or try to find out who the cashier was. I'm sure the cashier will hear about it, not specifically, but my guess is they'll gently remind the employees to double check that they have scanned everything in a customer's purchase. I would bet later the cashier did remember what happened later and will be revealed to find out you were honest. So I'm sure in his/her heart they are thanking you for handling it so discretely.
The 25% off for being honest is really a nice thing for the store to do.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)They most likely will not fire her.
tandot
(6,671 posts)I bought about 10 items: children's clothes (pants, sweaters, a jacket), a sweater for me, a shirt for my husband, and those shoes, Halloween stuff at reduced price, etc.), most of the items were between 50 - 70 % off.
I had a $35 coupon from the rewards card I signed up when I did my last purchase
I had a $20 coupon in Kohl's "cash back" from the last time I purchased stuff
I had a 20% off coupon that I got via email from Kohl's
I always save lots of money when I take advantage of their sales and coupons I get via email. I do that a couple of times a year to get my kid new clothes and maybe some for me and my husband. I am used to hearing "your savings are $150" ... or more
It was Sunday morning and I wanted to get back home ... I didn't do the math in my head and I am pretty sure a lot of people wouldn't have either.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)You did fine.
Now put it behind you and move on.
Life is a learning experience every day..
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)of the bed.
You did the right thing by going back to the store.
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