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NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:10 PM Oct 2013

So I finally finished "The Wheel of Time" 20 years after I started it.

For those who don't know, The Wheel of Time is a massive fantasy epic spanning 14 large books and almost 12,000 pages that started with The Eye of the World back in 1990. It was started by Robert Jordan, who passed away in 2005, and finished by Brandon Sanderson early this year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time

I started the series probably around 1993 and loved the first several books. However, the books got bigger and the action slowed down after books 4 and 5 and I think Jordan kind of lost control of the series. Around 1998, I picked up A Game of Thrones and was hooked by its more mature storytelling and the fact that it didn't follow the typical fantasy cliches. I stopped reading the Wheel of Time at that time as well, with book 8, a Path of Daggers. It was also then that I got married, divorced, then remarried a few years later, then became a father and also changed jobs a few times.

By the time I was able to look into reading for myself again, I heard that Robert Jordan had passed away, leaving the series unfinished. His widow, who was also his editor, later chose Brandon Sanderson (of the Mistborn Trilogy) to finish the series using Jordan's notes and outline for the ending. When he was ill, Jordan did tell his wife to have the series finished.

Early this year, after finishing my third time through A Song of Ice & Fire, I heard that Sanderson had put out the final book in the series, so decided to pick up the series again. So I'd remember everything, I started over at the beginning, with The Eye of the World and plowed through the entire series. It was good to read it all together, as some storylines I disliked became more interesting when you read everything back to back to back: Egwene's storyline comes to mind. It was still a slog to get through the middle books, but Sanderson's final three books move the action along much quicker, and the finale A Memory of Light is almost non-stop action. A very good ending to the series, even though I don't think Sanderson is as gifted with the description of the characters and the world as Jordan (and, I'd catch a few more modern terms slipped in there that I couldn't imagine Jordan using.)

I got a bit misty-eyed at the end, despite the finale feeling a bit rushed, despite the 900 pages.

It's no A Song of Ice & Fire or Lord of the Rings, but The Wheel of Time is certainly a grand epic fantasy. And, while I'd rate A Song of Ice and Fire R in terms of maturity level, The Wheel of Time is more PG and a lot of the female characters seemed kind of one dimensional.

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So I finally finished "The Wheel of Time" 20 years after I started it. (Original Post) NewJeffCT Oct 2013 OP
I actually just picked up the 1st 3 books. Inkfreak Oct 2013 #1
When I re-started The Wheel of Time NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #2
Sounds like me and Stephen King's Dark Tower series MotorCityMan Oct 2013 #3
Thanks NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #4
I might have to try it again sharp_stick Oct 2013 #5
true NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #6
I'm starting over. raptor_rider Oct 2013 #7
at least your gap NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #8
Lol!!! raptor_rider Oct 2013 #9
and, I'm happy NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #10
Well, thank you raptor_rider Oct 2013 #11

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
1. I actually just picked up the 1st 3 books.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:19 PM
Oct 2013

I've been looking for something to read since finishing the Martin series. I feel like A Song of Ice & Fire has ruined fantasy books for me. I loved it so much all others I'm looking into pale in comparison.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
2. When I re-started The Wheel of Time
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:47 PM
Oct 2013

at the beginning of the year, I was hoping for news about Winds of Winter by the time I was done with WoT. No luck.

I think Jordan is gifted at world building and description, as well as the feel of some of the major battles, but the writing about interpersonal relationships were quite lacking, especially when dealing with the opposite sex - all of a sudden, boy X and girl Y were in love. A lot of the female characters are kind of cardboard cutouts as well, and there was nary a mention of a gay character until the final few books and that was in passing (Character A: "Queen so-and-so hopes to marry Lord Whats-his-name, but that will never happen." Character B: "Why not?" Characer A: "Because everybody knows Lord Whats-His-Name prefers men.&quot

As I said above, George R.R. Martin's writing is Rated R, while Jordan is Rated PG. Where Jordan is writing about how Nynaeve thinks its outrageous that the barmaid's dress is showing her ankles, Martin is writing about how the Mountain visited an inn, raped the innkeeper's daughter in exchange for silver piece, then demanded change afterwards.

MotorCityMan

(1,203 posts)
3. Sounds like me and Stephen King's Dark Tower series
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 01:03 PM
Oct 2013

Took me I don't know how many years of going back to them off and on to get through the whole series. I'm on the fence about the ending to it, but overall really enjoyed the books. One of the things I like best is how the Father Callahan character from Salem's Lot made an appearance. I had always hated his character's fate in Salem's Lot.

Now King wrote another Dark Tower book (book 4.5, basically). Now I'll go back (eventually) to rereading the whole thing, with the new book added in.

LOVE the Song of Fire and Ice series. Read books 1 - 4 straight through and loved them. Another series I want to reread before reading the fifth book in the series.

Other fantasy series I've really enjoyed are David Edding's Belgariad series, Piers Anthony's Xanth books (the Adult Conspiracy still cracks me up) and his Incarnations of Immortality series.

I've heard about the The Wheel of Time series, but have not tried it. Based on your posting, I think I'm going to give the first book a shot.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. I might have to try it again
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:24 PM
Oct 2013

I went way too fast through the first five books so some of the quirks really got to me.

More than once I swore that I was going to set a match to the book if "Nynaeve tugged her braid" just one more time and sure enough within the next 20 pages she was pulling away.

I like Sanderson, he's got some really original thoughts for the use of magic in fantasy.

One that I'm working on right now (I'm in book 8 of 10) is the Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson. I rank it up pretty highly with Glen Cook and George R.R. Martin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malazan_Book_of_the_Fallen

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
6. true
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:45 PM
Oct 2013

it is annoying about Nynaeve being angry all the time, but she does change & grow over the course of the series and loses her braid. Most of the main female characters are all beautiful, though: Min, Faile, Elayne, Aviendha, Nynaeve, Egwene, Tuon, Moiraine, etc. I think only Cadsuane and Sorilea were somewhat major characters that were not, and maybe one or two other Aiel women.

raptor_rider

(1,014 posts)
7. I'm starting over.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 05:59 PM
Oct 2013

I got stuck on book 5 a couple of yrs ago. I went through some major health issues, and have forgotten what I've read. So I grabbed The Eye of the World from my dad to start again. He has the whole series. Miss reading that. I named my truck Moiraine lol!!!

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