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mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 05:43 PM Sep 2013

Nephew had the job, then they said no. story follows.........

Last edited Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:40 PM - Edit history (2)

My nephew graduated from college this past May with a BA in Political Science. He's pondering grad school, but not for another year or two. In the mean time he needs employed. He was offered a full time (with benefits position) at a major Department Store. He had a time scheduled to finish the processing for his I-9 information.

He goes to Human Relations at the appointed time, meets with the administrator who had offered him the position, and she told him even though she had offered the position, she had to pull the offer because one of the managers of the department he was going to work in, had offered the position to an associate.

This is getting ridiculous. In this case HR and management didn't communicate. Why even advertise jobs that are going to be given to internal candidates?

If he's unlucky, he'll be like me, near 3 years without a job.

On editing: where the hell was brain & fingers when I originally posted this?

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Nephew had the job, then they said no. story follows......... (Original Post) mrmpa Sep 2013 OP
Sorry that happened to him. Sounds like a big time failure to communicate.nt raccoon Sep 2013 #1
Can he sue? HipChick Sep 2013 #2
If he actec on the offer to his detriment, yes. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #4
No............. mrmpa Sep 2013 #5
something llke that happened to me years ago. the HR person was beside herself but the CFO mulsh Sep 2013 #3
Don't You Love It RobinA Sep 2013 #14
That sucks davidpdx Sep 2013 #6
Advertising jobs that are going to be given to internal candidates JoeyT Sep 2013 #7
Yes, it is depressingly common. nt raccoon Sep 2013 #9
its a pain, but from the company point of view its better to hire from within loli phabay Sep 2013 #10
I don't blame them for hiring internally. JoeyT Sep 2013 #11
I agree Sweet Freedom Sep 2013 #12
My boss did this to me... Phentex Sep 2013 #13
Since he has a political science degree tabbycat31 Sep 2013 #8

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
4. If he actec on the offer to his detriment, yes.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:59 PM
Sep 2013

He could seek moving and other expenses or loss of income from another job he passed on etc.

I suppose it would also depend on any written disclaimers in the written offer, if any.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
5. No.............
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:31 AM
Sep 2013

there was nothing written, just the verbal offer and then it being reneged upon. The job is 3 miles from his home. It was a nice job for a 1st position out of college.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
3. something llke that happened to me years ago. the HR person was beside herself but the CFO
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:55 PM
Sep 2013

Hired some one and told HR after the fact. Three weeks later the HR person called me about a different and it turned out much better job. The person the CFO hired lasted about 9 months in a very demanding, non rewarding position. I was relieved I didn't get the job I originally interview and was hired for.

I hope something similar happens for you nephew.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
6. That sucks
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:49 AM
Sep 2013

It could be a case of nepotism if it was a relative of the manager.

I'm not in the US so it's hard to gauge what things are like there other than hearing it second hand from others.

Tell him to keep in contact with the person from HR and to tell her he'll take anything to get his foot in the door. If she was already going to hire him that means he passed all the requirements. There's no reason given the situation she shouldn't consider him for the next position that comes along.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
7. Advertising jobs that are going to be given to internal candidates
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 02:16 AM
Sep 2013

is depressingly common. From what I've been told, and I have no idea if it's true or not, it's because the company has some rule that states they have to advertise a job, even if they know they're going to hire internally.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
10. its a pain, but from the company point of view its better to hire from within
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 04:23 PM
Sep 2013

As you have a sense of the person, their skills, work ethic etc so i cant really blame a company going for the known.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
11. I don't blame them for hiring internally.
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 07:49 PM
Sep 2013

But they shouldn't advertise the position, and call in people for interviews. Calling people in that may have to drive for hours to interview them for a position you know they have zero chance of getting is remarkably shitty. Even if the person is in town it's cruel to get their hopes up for no reason.

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
12. I agree
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 07:55 PM
Sep 2013

I think many companies feel the same way. It's a waste of their time, too, but (at least where I live) the law says all jobs must be posted for the public.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
13. My boss did this to me...
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 08:13 PM
Sep 2013

had me interview people but then gave the job to the daughter of someone in another department. It was a complete waste of time!

She was a horrible employee and didn't last.

But we became fast friends in a short period of time and have been friends for 23 years now.

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
8. Since he has a political science degree
Mon Sep 9, 2013, 12:07 PM
Sep 2013

I work in politics and if he's interested in the field, send me a PM.

RIght now I work for an environmental nonprofit and we're hiring now.

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