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alarimer

(16,245 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 09:35 PM Jul 2013

Work issue

I don't even know how to explain this because it is a bit complicated. First, I supervise three people, one of whom is in a relationship with another biologist in the office. He is not her supervisor and as far as I know, everything they have done has been above-board. Even so, the PERCEPTION is that she is getting special treatment. Why her supervisor (me) would give her special treatment because of her relationship with another person is beyond me. But there is friction because of it. It's probably inevitable and a bit unfair, I think. Of course all the technicians in this office seem to like to complain more than they like to work, but that's another matter. They complain about whoever is not in the room and I hear all of it because I am in the room next door. But the situation is uncomfortable for all of us.

But that's not my issue here.

I went to a meeting yesterday with my colleague, M, (the one in the relationship with my technician, S). S asked me in the morning if she could go. I didn't think much of it, even though it wasn't really a meeting I thought she would be interested in, I said she could. Mistake number 1. Because if ANY technician finds out that another got to do something THEY didn't get to do (even though it was not something they even cared about), they complain. And so, when I came back, there was an email in my inbox from my other tech, C, who was under the impression that S. got to go because her boyfriend M suggested it. So we all met with my supervisor and it turned out that most of C's complaints were unfounded. None of her complaints about S. had anything to do with special treatment due to S's relationship with M. None. So hopefully we've ironed that out.

I am upset with myself that I leapt to the same conclusion that C. did and unfairly maligned my colleague M. It turns out that S. simply overheard a conversation I'd had with M (that I totally forgotten about- I can't remember anything to save my life) and got the idea from that about going to the meeting.

Are people always this difficult? Does anyone EVER grow up beyond this sort of petty bullshit? It's like junior high, only I'm the teacher.

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Work issue (Original Post) alarimer Jul 2013 OP
Be careful of S in the future No Vested Interest Jul 2013 #1
In my expierence, the work world is very much like highschool... 2theleft Jul 2013 #2
And the gossip. alarimer Jul 2013 #12
Sounds like your complainers do not have enough to do Generic Brad Jul 2013 #3
you lost me with S&M olddots Jul 2013 #4
I think... mockmonkey Jul 2013 #6
!!! MiddleFingerMom Jul 2013 #9
I'm wondering where B & D come in here....... lastlib Jul 2013 #10
LOL alarimer Jul 2013 #13
Yes, unfortunately, people are always that difficult; elleng Jul 2013 #5
I'm a 2nd level manager for a large company Major Nikon Jul 2013 #7
Ideally, people should solve these types of problems themselves. alarimer Jul 2013 #14
So much like pipi_k Jul 2013 #8
I've taught junior high. Office politics is worse. TrogL Jul 2013 #11

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
1. Be careful of S in the future
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jul 2013

She may be looking for instances where she can be in the same places with M during the workday.
You don't know need the aggravation that comes from the pettiness.
Also, M might prefer less fraternization during the weekday.

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
2. In my expierence, the work world is very much like highschool...
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jul 2013

And sometimes like pre-school. I manage an organization of about 25 people within a huge org of several hundred people. (corporate america at it's finest...)...

The jealousy, the perceived slights, the backstabbing...it's unbelievable. I don't understand why we can't all just get along, do our work, help out our team members without unnecessary drama.

Sounds like you handled the situation fine...

Take a lot of deep breaths, smile, and insist everyone stay focused on what they are there for. And if that doesn't work, come home and drink heavily

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
12. And the gossip.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jul 2013

It's unbelievable. I don't think this place is worse than any other, but they all talk about each other all the time.

And I know they talk about their supervisors. I can hear them. It never seems to occur to them that I am in the next room.

Fortunately, unless it's something egregious, I don't say anything.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
3. Sounds like your complainers do not have enough to do
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:17 PM
Jul 2013

Shouldn't they be concerned with their own performance instead of someone else's personal life? I would let them know that you are not at liberty to discuss personal information about employees, but still thank them for their concern and assure them it has been addressed. If they press, invite them to document their complaints in writing and pass it along to your boss and HR. Obsessive and unsubstantiated complaints will give you ammunition to reprimand them with if they insist on taking it to the next level.

You can get this to stop without getting angry or frustrated with them. They are grown ups and they will either learn to act like it or face the ramifications.

lastlib

(23,286 posts)
10. I'm wondering where B & D come in here.......
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:37 PM
Jul 2013

.

(sorry alarimer--no disrespect intended, just got hit w/ (what I thought was) a humorous thought....) me. BAD lastlib! no cookies!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. I'm a 2nd level manager for a large company
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:13 AM
Jul 2013

It's in people's nature to complain and it's going to happen no matter what you do. The only time I really get involved with such things is when they start interfering with productivity or if someone files some sort of formal complaint. When I was a 1st line supervisor I used to have a lot of unit meetings and I would encourage people to air their complaints there to get everything out in the open. Most of the time people just want to have their concerns heard and validated by someone and don't necessarily want any action taken so don't try to be a problem solver in that regard unless you have to be. If it's just one person spreading discontent, I would take them aside and let them air their complaint in my office so long as I initiated the meeting. Open door policies are fine, but you don't really want someone coming into your office and whining every day, and some people will.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
14. Ideally, people should solve these types of problems themselves.
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jul 2013

So it requires a little coaching on my part.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. So much like
Fri Jul 26, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jul 2013

Junior High...

I think just about anyone who's ever had to work with other people would say the same thing. Even more if they have been in a managerial position.

This is one main reason why I never did well working with others. I like to get along, but never was very good at the drama and politics of junior high school, and that same inability carried over into the business world.

Can't play the games.

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