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Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:43 AM Jul 2013

I am dumbfounded.

My 22-yr-old nephew nephew is a huge Dexter fan. I sent him this item:



He couldn't see it, so I told him: "It's a picture of Dexter reading a newspaper. The headline on the newspaper is "Zimmerman not guilty.""

He replied: "I'm unfamiliar with a Zimmerman case."

My nephew doesn't watch TV, but there are newspapers, there is news radio. But he remains ignorant. He was once fired from his job as a grocery bagger/cart guy/etc. because he was late on Super Bowl Sunday -- he not only had no idea that is was Super Bowl Sunday, but he didn't know what the Super Bowl was.

He does pay attention to elections and he does vote. Other than that, it pains me that he doesn't pay attention to what goes on outside his life. I wonder how many more are like him. Any idea?

PS Do not insult my nephew.

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I am dumbfounded. (Original Post) Bertha Venation Jul 2013 OP
I know a lot of people--not just youth that are like that... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #1
Yes, I believe that he is not very curious Bertha Venation Jul 2013 #2
I know I'll sound like a grouchy old person, but the truth is that peers usually make or break hlthe2b Jul 2013 #3
Would you say he's in a primarily white community? noamnety Jul 2013 #4
Yes, primarily white. The next larges group is Latinos. (Southern CA) Bertha Venation Jul 2013 #5
I know the Zimmerman case handmade34 Jul 2013 #6
Dexter is a TV show Bertha Venation Jul 2013 #7
I'm curious to know what he does do charlie and algernon Jul 2013 #8
what he does Bertha Venation Jul 2013 #9
sounds like a very simple, yet fulfilling life datasuspect Jul 2013 #20
I was in Indianapolis all last week OriginalGeek Jul 2013 #10
Indy was curious because we have a version of Stand your Ground and lots of racist rednecks ... Myrina Jul 2013 #13
I can believe that OriginalGeek Jul 2013 #17
I don't see how someone can vote without paying attention to the news. alarimer Jul 2013 #11
I'd argue the opposite ... Myrina Jul 2013 #14
I am not a football fan so I usually have a good idea of when we are avebury Jul 2013 #12
So what does he do for recreation? n/t MicaelS Jul 2013 #15
martial arts and sparring with fantasy swords Bertha Venation Jul 2013 #21
He seems to want to get away from pop culture olddots Jul 2013 #16
i am proud of your nephew datasuspect Jul 2013 #18
I knew nothing of Glee until last year Taverner Jul 2013 #19

hlthe2b

(102,343 posts)
1. I know a lot of people--not just youth that are like that...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 08:46 AM
Jul 2013

It is just as though they made a decision to be "blissfully ignorant" and stuck to it (I suppose there might be something to that)...

Or they just have a very low curiosity quotient... I don't know. Have you ever asked him about it?

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
2. Yes, I believe that he is not very curious
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:10 AM
Jul 2013

about things that go on around him. That makes me sad, because he is a very smart kid.

hlthe2b

(102,343 posts)
3. I know I'll sound like a grouchy old person, but the truth is that peers usually make or break
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:18 AM
Jul 2013

that attitude. I always felt pressure to know what was going on, so as not to appear "ignorant" and would be absolutely mortified if it became clear i was the one person who was clueless in a discussion... If I was part of a conversation on a subject for which I knew nothing or a term was used I didn't know, I would almost always go home and try to figure out what it was that I didn't know. Now (and across the board) it just seems as though ignorance is not a source of embarrassment, but pride.

It is very strange to me. I thought after being mortified as a country by GWB* constant display of cluelessness and cringe-inducing faux pas that this particular trend would start to end... But, if anything it has just become more accepted.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
4. Would you say he's in a primarily white community?
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:21 AM
Jul 2013

It was a topic of casual conversation where I teach, which is a very racially integrated area and the people there tend to be up on social issues of all sorts, so even people who weren't watching the news knew what was going on to some degree. But I can see that in a white and not politically active social group, there might be a sense that "this has nothing to do with me."

It actually doesn't surprise me that someone would be tuned out of news radio or newspapers - but I'm surprised social media hasn't become a part of his life. Even on non political boards I go to (like ones for the arts), the discussion blew up there.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
5. Yes, primarily white. The next larges group is Latinos. (Southern CA)
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 09:26 AM
Jul 2013

He does not get on the computer, and uses email only on his iPhone. He has a Facebook account, but only goes there once in a blue moon. No Twitter. I doubt he even uses his browser at all.

He doesn't care about anything that doesn't directly affect him -- and I don't think he's aware of it.

charlie and algernon

(13,447 posts)
8. I'm curious to know what he does do
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jul 2013

Since you said that he doesn't watch TV or go on the computer very much. I've found that it's usually one or the other. For example, I have friends that watch very little TV yet are on the computer a lot and that's where they catch their shows (hulu, netflix, etc). Is he just someone who likes to read lots of books or play video games? Or who's very active outdoors or busy with his job?

As for the blissfully ignorant, I've often noticed in movies and shows that there are always people going about their day who seem to have no idea there's say a giant monster trashing the city 5 blocks away. My favorite example is in "I am Legend." As Will Smith and his family are speeding to the evacuation center in their motorcade, you see people calmly walking down the street as though there isn't a deadly plague infecting the city. Now I know it's just a movie, but I've certianly known people who had no idea big events were taking place.

I've even wondered if there are Americans who have no idea that an event like 9/11 even happened. People who are in their own world and are only concerned with the events that affect them.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
9. what he does
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:09 AM
Jul 2013

He works at Home Depot. He fashions fantasy swords from wood. He has a "sparring club," friends who gather to play with his swords. He studies iaido (a martial art). And he plays video games.

I've never imagined that there are people who don't know about 9/11. I suppose it's possible, but the possibility sure is freaky.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
20. sounds like a very simple, yet fulfilling life
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

sometimes i wish i didn't have the overhead i have so i could disconnect from everything and pursue erstwhile "frivolous" pursuits (seemingly, to the outside world), but which had great meaning or brought great meaning to my life.

kudos to this kid!

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
10. I was in Indianapolis all last week
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:17 AM
Jul 2013

I couldn't even count how many times I was asked "Oh, you're from Florida? How far are you from Sanford?" so it's not like nobody outside of Florida is hearing about it...But I guess there are folks who have their own concerns and current events may not be one of them.

The Superbowl thing boggles my mind though lol. I know lots of people who have no interest in football or the Superbowl but I don't know anyone who doesn't know what it is...

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
13. Indy was curious because we have a version of Stand your Ground and lots of racist rednecks ...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jul 2013

(in and outside of gated communities) ... looking for an excuse to use it. Sadly.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
17. I can believe that
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jul 2013

When we first got to town we went under an overpass where there four or five teabaggers waving signs that read "Impeach Obama!" "Obama the traitor!" and other nonsense. I didn't even feel bad about popping open the sun-roof and holding up both middle fingers as we crept under in 5:00 traffic.

But other than that we had a great time in Indy. Saw family and old friends and my wife attended a convention. Ate some great food and some terrible food that I loved anyway. (White Castle, Jack In The Box - stuff I don't have here lol)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
11. I don't see how someone can vote without paying attention to the news.
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 12:42 PM
Jul 2013

Because then, you're just going by party or personality or something like.

I don't believe in party loyalty. There are a lot of Democrats out there who are really, really awful (especially on the local level).

But if you're not up on the issues, how can you say which candidates represent your views better?

I don't know anyone who doesn't at least listen to the news occasionally or watches some TV.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
14. I'd argue the opposite ...
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jul 2013

.... paying attention to the 'news' is what skews potential voters toward one candidate/party or another.

If one has a solid belief of what they believe is best for the country and tends to know how the party/candidates have acted on those issues (reading, research, whatever), the crap ads and hit-pieces that pass for 'news' are basically useless.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
12. I am not a football fan so I usually have a good idea of when we are
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jul 2013

approaching the Super Bowl date by the cakes and goodies put out by the supermarket for Super Bowl parties.

It is hard to tune out college football though because football is scared in Oklahoma.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
21. martial arts and sparring with fantasy swords
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jul 2013

And I'd say video games, but I think that's more of a religion than recreation.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
16. He seems to want to get away from pop culture
Tue Jul 16, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jul 2013

I did the same at 22 and pop culture now means the "news " even more than it did in 1970 . There are times in our lives when we find peace in being out of the loop , if this lasts a long time it can get self destructive but I bet this is a phase of that 1/4 life crisis that doesn't get as much attention as mid life crisis .

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