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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsRemember the songs that were "so profound" years and decades ago?
"Horse With No Name"
"Spirit In The Sky"
"Dust In The Wind"
etc...
Nowadays we laugh at them.
Any others you can think of?
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)But seriously, I'm a prog rock fan - all prog rock songs seem like they take themselves way too seriously - like they're trying really hard to be deep. It's all good fun.
Archae
(46,347 posts)They do try to take themselves too seriously, sometimes to an absurd level.
That's why nowadays we laugh at them.
Like "Horse With No Name."
"...The ocean is a desert..."
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I was in college when everybody got "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" by Rick Wakeman.
The one good think EL&P did was steal "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Moussorgsky and distribute it to a wider audience.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)and also the Jon Anderson one: Olias of Sunhillow. Don't even TRY to pretend you don't know that one, Manifestor!!!!
nolabear
(41,991 posts)And pot-dom.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)pink-o
(4,056 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)"Close to the Edge" I've read that Philosophy and/or Theology students have written thesis on wtf that song is about
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Because, if it was, that stage didn't last long.
Archae
(46,347 posts)Of the 50's "dead teenager" genre.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)My big sister and her friends used to act that song out with gestures.
Funniest thing I ever saw.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)And Honey, I miss you.
And I'm being good.
And I'd love to be with you,
If only I could.
Now THEM'S lyrics.
Archae
(46,347 posts)And the Dopey Brothers...I mean Doobie Brothers, "Jesus Is Just All Right With Me"
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)That *made* the song.
Also... the lyrics weren't quite down to the level of Yum-Yum Yummie.
OTOH... what was that song about anyway? Girl goes nuts cause her horse ran away?
Oh the pain. People in Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan and half the developing world should have the luxury of knowing that kind of pain.
Archae
(46,347 posts)And he was a farmer who grew up using horses.
"Horses are born stupid and they never get any better."
Gabby Hayes
(289 posts)Archae
(46,347 posts)Always knew that one was simply stupid.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)great sounding song with really horrible lyrics
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I felt very important when I listened to it. Now it just seems like a 3 a.m. dorm-talk kind of song.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)I see it as about the alienation of modern society.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)To the neon gods they made."
Tom Kitten
(7,350 posts)How about the song from that album we had to listen to over and over again in sixth grade English class in order to interpet the lyrics because they were "meaningful", "A Most Peculiar Man"?
"He was a most peculiar man.
He lived all alone within a house,
Within a room, within himself,
A most peculiar man.
He had no friends, he seldom spoke
And no one in turn ever spoke to him,
'Cause he wasn't friendly and he didn't care
And he wasn't like them.
Oh, no! he was a most peculiar man.
He died last Saturday.
He turned on the gas and he went to sleep
With the windows closed so he'd never wake up
To his silent world and his tiny room;
And Mrs. Riordan says he has a brother somewhere
Who should be notified soon.
And all the people said, "What a shame that he's dead,
But wasn't he a most peculiar man?"
Yes, sad but profound? I guess it could have been considered so at the time because it was a pop song but people have been writing and expressing about angst, isolation, and alienation for a long, long time.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)"Eleanor Rigby" showed up a couple of pages later
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)I believe Paul's mom was an English teacher.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)lastlib
(23,288 posts)(IMHO......)
. .
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)malthaussen
(17,216 posts)And I don't even like metal.
-- Mal
That one is as relevant today as it was when I was a kid.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)One of the most profound songs of its or any other age.
Absolutely.
Positively.
Most definitely.
Rhiannon12866
(206,072 posts)That's what they say...
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
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still play it on my 12 string, as well as Yummy Yummy - - loved the chorus -
"ooh i love to kiss her love to hold her love to miss her love to scold her love to love her like i do.
oh little chewy don't know what you're doing to me but you're doing to me what i want you to. "
ya right . . .
I know what she was doin . . . .
CC
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)wanted their girls to do in 1-2-3 Red Light
It doesn't get much more profound than this
Every time I try to prove I love you,
1, 2, 3 red light, you stop me,
Baby you ain't right to stop me,
1, 2, 3 red light, you stop me.
Every time I make a move to love you,
1, 2, 3 red light, you stop me,
Baby every night you stop me,
1, 2, 3 red light.
Stop the game,
You've got too much to lose,
If you stop me again,
That's when we might end
So please don't refuse.
(Please don't refuse)
Every time I make a move to love you,
1, 2, 3 red light, don't stop me,
Baby you ain't right to stop me,
1, 2, 3 red light, don't stop me.
Every time I try to prove I love you,
1, 2, 3 red light, don't stop me,
When I know I'm right, don't stop me,
1, 2, 3 red light.
Every time I make a move to love you,
1, 2, 3 red light, don't stop me,
Baby you ain't right to stop me,
1, 2, 3, red light, don?t stop me.
Tom Kitten
(7,350 posts)"Sticky Sticky" by The 1910 Fruitgum Company is unabashedly hands down MUCH more profound!
Consider the lyrics...
"Sticky sticky"
continue until fadeout...
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Back in the late '60s, she had to drive to a medical clinic that was in a city a couple of hours away. While driving, she said she was listening to the radio when she heard a song that just had one word in it, repeated over and over, which nearly put her into a trance.
pink-o
(4,056 posts)or just about anything by the Moody Blues. They were trippin' all the time in the 70s, and the lyrics were super profound until the acid wore off!!
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Archae
(46,347 posts)Can't help but wonder about what they were when writing that screwy poetry...
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)were when writing "I Am The Walrus", "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds", and "Strawberry Fields Forever"
Archae
(46,347 posts)After reading that a college professor was using his lyrics in his class finding "meanings" in them.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)in a Bloom County comic strip once, when they tried to rescue Bill the Cat from the Bagwhan Shreesh Rajneesh's compound
Archae
(46,347 posts)Places in Liverpool.
John's first son making a silly drawing, "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds."
They used to follow Ringo around with a notebook, the screwy things he'd say became songs.
Like after a long recording session one night, Ringo said "It's been a hard day's night."
liberaltrucker
(9,130 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I swear to god, I saw it in a 70s era documentary about them.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I still like Dust in the Wind!
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Everything they ever did was like that.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)In Your Wildest Dreams:
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)pink-o
(4,056 posts)It's funny how so many 70s bands are revered, yet the Moodies just kinda seem dated or passé (in a hallucinogenic way!). Yet Mike Malloy uses Story in your Eyes for his show, and that sounds amazing! Justin Hayward was always the best songwriter of the lot.
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
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miss all my old vinyl.
CC
lastlib
(23,288 posts)(Now if I could just get a decent turntable.........)
whistler162
(11,155 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Barry McGuire, 1965.
Ugh.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)... apocalyptic folk-rock type protest song you could make a bundle. And they were right.
But *anyone* could have written that song. ANYONE.
And it didn't even have a POV... it was just "topical".
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Archae
(46,347 posts)And those stupid "Billy Jack" movies.
I thought Oliver Stone was full of himself, until I saw an interview with McLaughlin.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Tom Kitten
(7,350 posts)Wouldn't it be great if Oliver Stone did a remake of all the Billy Jack movies, rolled up into one three and a half hour epic of quick cutting incomprehensible mindless violence, ending with a shot of the surviving cast members getting together and boogieing to a hip hop version of "Give Peace A Chance"?
Archae
(46,347 posts)Gabby Hayes
(289 posts)And taught me how to use it as the years went by
To tie up all your problems and make them look neat
And then to sell them to the people in the street
Master Jack, you are now wanted in 29 states.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)My Dad was friends with one of the members of the band "The Original Caste" who originally recorded that song back in about 1970. I think his friend was the guy on the bottom right with the moustache on the album reverse cover as the clip starts but I'm not sure.
I remember when I was a young teenager "discovering" this bit of cheese and thinking it a really profound piece of music. I tried to explain to my parents why I was so musically intelligent while they wiled away their time doing mostly useless things like work. Dad just smiled and left the room, he came back with the album, the liner was covered with signatures from the band and personal notes about all the time they spent way back when.
I think that was when I first realized my parents actually had a life before my brother and I came along.
Although it's still really cheesy I think that Dixie Lee of The Original Caste made it sound better than Jinx Dawson (Coven) on the Billy Jack version.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I'd forgotten all about that.
lame54
(35,324 posts)applegrove
(118,793 posts)Hey, I still love it.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Better than the heavy-handed (and ultimately misconstrued) satire of "Money for Nothing."
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Mind blowing.
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
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"I am Hennery the 8th I am . . . . "
CC
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Our music teacher even taught it to us in 4th or 5th grade.
"Second verse, same as the first..."
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)A McDonald's menu seems profound when you're on the good shit.
Mr.Bill
(24,330 posts)Universal soldier
olddots
(10,237 posts)Strange for a white suburban goober but it still is .
Still Blue in PDX
(1,999 posts)Earlier, Turn Turn Turn. I still remember one Sunday morning visiting church with a friend after a Saturday night sleepover, and when the sermon mentioned Ecclesiastes I thought, "Whoa, they took that from that song!"
Within You, Without You
Harper Valley PTA
Ode to Billy Joe - I still don't really know what that is about.
Son of a Preacher Man (which I thought was Son of a Creature Man)
AnneD
(15,774 posts)Now made even more phrophetic and profound. And I don't find it funny anymore.
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
And I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Fool me once, shame on....shame on you. Fool me....you can't get fooled again!
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Yikes. That whole era. Late 60's into early 70's. Everyone was a "poet".
Or thought they were.
Reminds me of what Fran Leibowitz said about writers: Just because someone CAN write a book, doesn't mean they SHOULD write a book.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)Dylan, for example. Simon and Garfunkel. And others as well.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)which really shouldn't be terribly surprising...my guess is something under 5% of compositions really hold up over time for many generations.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Willie and the poor boys are playin; bring a nickel tap your feet!
Ah, Credence and John!!!
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I can never hear it any other way.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)Now I have the song in my head!!!! LOL
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Fucking awful music paraded as angsty genius. Most annoying voice of the 1990s next to Ed Roland from Collective Soul.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)She was incredibly annoying. I hate hate HATED that "one hand in my pocket" song.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)It's so nice to be insane, no one asks you to explain.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I still like that one!!!
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)But the song was kinda spooky then, but not so much anymore.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)you know the rest.
Spring was never waiting for us, girl It ran one step ahead As we followed in the dance
Between the parted pages And were pressed in love's hot, fevered iron Like a striped pair of pants
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again, oh no
I recall the yellow cotton dress Foaming like a wave On the ground around your knees The birds like tender babies in your hands And the old men playing checkers, by the trees
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain
I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again, oh no
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Who also gave us the grave profundity of Up, up and Away.
Which came out around the same time as Windmills of you Mind.
Dang, everyone was on some excellent shit back then!
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)... an extended exercise in satire, especially with the over-the-top delivery.
But hell, we're talking about a period when Jonathan Livingston Seagull was considered profound.
-- Mal
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)especially the instrumental part towards the end. Good memories of the skating rink...
Demoiselle
(6,787 posts)As a radio DJ remarked after playing the song (in Philly, years ago) "Yo, Buddy...you alone, you got nothin' better to do...NAME THE HORSE!!!"
It made me laugh at the time..
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)Pretty much Al Stewart's entire body of work would qualify, really.
Tom Kitten
(7,350 posts)Some songs are classic, some songs are, frankly, kinda banal...some are in-between and some just make you scratch your head, like "The Soft Parade", which in my opinion starts out great but I get lost as to what's going on the last part (this is the trip - this is the best part of the trip) and it having any connection to the beginning...
When I was back there in seminary school
There was a person there
Who put forth the proposition
That you can petition the Lord with prayer
Petition the lord with prayer
Petition the lord with prayer
You cannot petition the lord with prayer!
Can you give me sanctuary
I must find a place to hide
A place for me to hide
Can you find me soft asylum
I can't make it anymore
The Man is at the door
Peppermint, miniskirts, chocolate candy
Champion sax and a girl named Sandy
There's only four ways to get unraveled
One is to sleep and the other is travel, da da
One is a bandit up in the hills
One is to love your neighbor 'till
His wife gets home
Catacombs
Nursery bones
Winter women
Growing stones
Carrying babies
To the river
Streets and shoes
Avenues
Leather riders
Selling news
The monk bought lunch
Ha ha, he bought a little
Yes, he did
Woo!
This is the best part of the trip
This is the trip, the best part
I really like
What'd he say?
Yeah!
Yeah, right!
Pretty good, huh
Huh!
Yeah, I'm proud to be a part of this number
Successful hills are here to stay
Everything must be this way
Gentle streets where people play
Welcome to the Soft Parade
All our lives we sweat and save
Building for a shallow grave
Must be something else we say
Somehow to defend this place
Everything must be this way
Everything must be this way, yeah
The Soft Parade has now begun
Listen to the engines hum
People out to have some fun
A cobra on my left
Leopard on my right, yeah
The deer woman in a silk dress
Girls with beads around their necks
Kiss the hunter of the green vest
Who has wrestled before
With lions in the night
Out of sight!
The lights are getting brighter
The radio is moaning
Calling to the dogs
There are still a few animals
Left out in the yard
But it's getting harder
To describe sailors
To the underfed
Tropic corridor
Tropic treasure
What got us this far
To this mild equator?
We need someone or something new
Something else to get us through, yeah, c'mon
Callin' on the dogs
Callin' on the dogs
Oh, it's gettin' harder
Callin' on the dogs
Callin' in the dogs
Callin' all the dogs
Callin' on the gods
You gotta meet me
Too late, baby
Slay a few animals
At the crossroads
Too late
All in the yard
But it's gettin' harder
By the crossroads
You gotta meet me
Oh, we're goin', we're goin great
At the edge of town
Tropic corridor
Tropic treasure
Havin' a good time
Got to come along
What got us this far
To this mild equator?
Outskirts of the city
You and I
We need someone new
Somethin' new
Somethin' else to get us through
Better bring your gun
Better bring your gun
Tropic corridor
Tropic treasure
We're gonna ride and have some fun
When all else fails
We can whip the horse's eyes
And make them sleep
And cry"
Can Anybody help explain this song?
Archae
(46,347 posts)I know a guy who used to be a roadie for a lot of west coast 60's and 70's singers and groups.
He told me Jim Morrison was sober about 10% of the time.
Even then he was a total asshole.
My friend told me he never saw Morrison perform, without doing something.
Usually booze or speed.
Tom Kitten
(7,350 posts)poor Ray Manzarek, who died recently, it seems to me a lot of his latter post Doors career consisted of him going on the road interpeting the poetry of Jim Morrison.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)I was landscaping at the time and had a Mrs. Robinson thing happening...
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)I could be just reading into it, though.
Archae
(46,347 posts)And that song is definitely about getting some afternoon nookie.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)were some of the filthiest lyrics ever in a popular radio-played song.
Archae
(46,347 posts)I have heard it on a hard rock station.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Archae
(46,347 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)I know I'm about to get flamed for this: Although I like classic rock in general, I do not understand the hype surrounding Bob Dylan, or Peter, Paul & Mary, or Joan Baez, or the Grateful Dead, along with a few others.
I do not "laugh at them" but I would not choose to listen to them, either.
Gabby Hayes
(289 posts)The moment you come into view,
When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best
When I lay me down to die
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky
Judy in disguise, well that's what you are
Lemonade pie with a brand new car.
Cantalope eyes come to me tonight
Judy in disguise
with glasses.
Gabby Hayes
(289 posts)Presenting The Shaggs!
My Pal Foot Foot
My pal's name is Foot Foot
He always likes to roam
My pal's name is Foot Foot
I never find him home
I go to his house
Knock at his door
People come out and say
Foot Foot don't live here no more
My pal Foot Foot
Always likes to roam
My pal Foot Foot
Now he has no home
Go ahead, you know the rest.......
lastlib
(23,288 posts)(never could figure out what all those spices had to do with anything, though......WTF means "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme"??)
panader0
(25,816 posts)"Love is but a song we sing
fears the way we die
you can make the mountains ring
or make the angels cry....."
Good old profound hippie song.
I also liked "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis back then.
And any old blues
Archae
(46,347 posts)They were griping about every damn thing until Johnny Carson walked up to them and told to wipe their noses and go home.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)"I've been undressed by kings, and I've seen some things...."
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)Yes: I've seen All Good People
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,474 posts)on a Jet Plane".
kwassa
(23,340 posts)probably one of the first anti-war songs in modern music. Dylan was first in most things. Peter, Paul and Mary did a popular version of the song, and also sang "Leaving on a Jet Plane" which is just a love song, really.
"Blowin' In The Wind" by Bob Dylan
How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)the perfect song at the perfect moment. A game changer.
ConcernedCanuk
(13,509 posts).
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and I can get teary-eyed over that while I'm playing, as well as some other songs like Cat Stevens "Father and Son" -
"Angie" (I forget the author) -
"If my love could be a flower" by John Hollick back in the late 70's . .
and more,
including some I wrote -
"The love in your heart" is one I wrote,
another is "They're putting me away" (jail)
(A love letter/poem written by me for a fellow inmate to send to his girlfriend I put to music when I got out)
8 years of piano lessons as a youth, guitar I learned on my own
Place I just bought is too small for a full sized piano, will get myself a double keyboard electric organ soon - separate speakers and base foot pedals - had 2 electric organs in the past.
Gonna rock on!!
Yeah, I like my music.
CC
opiate69
(10,129 posts)I mean.. I always kinda knew they were a bit, well... "70s"... but sweet Jeebus...
Zero hour, nine a.m.
And I'm gonna be high as a kite by then
I miss the Earth so much, I miss my wife
It's lonely out in space
On such a timeless flight
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time til touch down brings me round again to find I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no, no, no, I'm a rocket man
Rocket man, burning out his fuse up here alone
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time til touch down brings me round again to find I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no, no, no, I'm a rocket man
Rocket man, burning out his fuse up here alone
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them if you did
And all this science, I don't understand
It's just my job five days a week
A rocket man, a rocket man
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time til touch down brings me round again to find I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no, no, no, I'm a rocket man
Rocket man, burning out his fuse up here alone
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time til touch down brings me round again to find I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no, no, no, I'm a rocket man
Rocket man, burning out his fuse up here alone
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)Frankly, anything I thought profound "back then" I still think is profound. Perhaps I was more sparing of my admiration than some others. Or perhaps I don't really know clouds at all.
But I do think it odd, sometimes, that so many seem to feel a need to disavow who they were 40 years or so ago. It seems almost obligatory these days to deride polyester, shag carpets, and avocado appliances as though one were taking a deep breath of thanks for having finally had their eyes opened to the trivialities of their youths. I'd like to live another 40 years just to watch my contemporaries disown who they were in 2013.
Which sounds a bit like a flaming attack, not the intention. There was a lot of bad music floating around when the Boomers were coming of age. I just think it's an interesting psychological phenomenon, this wish to say "boy, was I stupid... then."
-- Mal
LuckyLib
(6,820 posts)feelings that nobody understood us, that the world was a mess. Some I had forgotten, and revisiting them made me laugh. Others bring back very clear memories of the time.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I still do.
Of course, many popular songs were never profound at all, lol.