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Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 08:57 PM Mar 2013

Where did the word "crap" come from?

Once there was a plumber named Thomas Crapper, who claimed to have invented a better way to deal with human excrement. Mr. Crapper was proud of his invention and published advertisements like this one:



After a while "crapper" became a synonym for "toilet", and "crap" became the word we are all familiar with.

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Where did the word "crap" come from? (Original Post) Lionel Mandrake Mar 2013 OP
that is crap-tastic, Lionel! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #1
Actually, that's not the real origin of the word: The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2013 #2
Ergo: Crapper derived his name from crap and not vice-versa rurallib Mar 2013 #5
I know the word is older than the man, Lionel Mandrake Mar 2013 #6
Dunno, but if you're happy and you know it, LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #3
Shouldn't that tag line be "Make a mess!"? bluesbassman Mar 2013 #4
THANKS!! Now I need to take a crap... madinmaryland Mar 2013 #7

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
2. Actually, that's not the real origin of the word:
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:01 PM
Mar 2013
It has often been claimed in popular culture that the slang term for human bodily waste, "crap", originated with Thomas Crapper because of his association with lavatories. The most common version of this story is that American servicemen stationed in England during World War I saw his name on cisterns and used it as army slang, i.e. "I'm going to the crapper".

The word crap is actually of Middle English origin; and hence predates its application to bodily waste. Its first application to bodily waste, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, appeared in 1846 under a reference to a crapping ken, or a privy, where ken means a house.

Its most likely etymological origin is a combination of two older words, the Dutch krappen: to pluck off, cut off, or separate; and the Old French crappe: siftings, waste or rejected matter (from the medieval Latin crappa, chaff).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Crapper

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
6. I know the word is older than the man,
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:14 PM
Mar 2013

but I suspect that the widespread use of the word "crap" really comes from the Crapper family and their advertisements.

The earliest usage of any word in English (as described by the OED) isn't necessarily the source of its modern usage.

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