The Walking Dead 3.15 - This Sorrowful Life (Spoiler Alert)

[NewJeffCT]

Only two hours to go. Interesting chat with Daryl & Glenn...

A possible truce with the Governor comes with strings attached for Rick and the group.

I hope Rick isn't dumb enough to take the offer.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

1. No shortage of spoilers and leaked stills this past week.

Regardless if what I read was accurate or not, it sounds like tonights show is going to be entertaining!

[NewJeffCT]

2. I haven't seen any spoilers

for the show - yet

[NewJeffCT]

3. last year's 2nd to last episode

was pretty eventful, though, with Shane getting killed, and then re-killed.

so, I'm guessing Merle maybe, possibly Milton, and maybe one surprise death.

[texanwitch]

4. I saw a picture that showed one of our prison group looking like a zombie.

Not a total surprise.

[NewJeffCT]

5. Judith?

[texanwitch]

6. No.

Quess again.

I don't know if this person was a zombie but looked like it to me.

A fresh zombie.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Carol?

[texanwitch]

8. No.

Keep quessing.

I will give a big hint.

You won't be surprised or unhappy about it.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. Merle!

[texanwitch]

10. Yes.

Again it was a picture.

He looked like a fresh killed zombie to me.

I saw another picture, Merle was leading someone on a rope.

Take a guess who.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. That would be an anti-climax.

[texanwitch]

13. Tell me it isn't so Rick.

Rick grow a backbone.

[Baitball Blogger]

15. What's going to turn this around without making Rick look bad?

[NewJeffCT]

73. I don't think it can be turned around

without making him look bad. Daryl is probably going to blame Rick now.

[NewJeffCT]

12. Merle ripping up mattresses

Looking for drugs

[NewJeffCT]

14. Merle talking sense

Wtf are Rick & Daryl thinking?

[Baitball Blogger]

16. Even if Rick changes his mind, Merle now has something to hang on him.

But I think what Merle was getting at, is that Rick can't do it, which is why he's asking for Merle's help.

[NewJeffCT]

17. i think Merle is communicating with the Governor

walkie talkie?

[charlie and algernon]

18. he found Rick's phone

wonder if there's still dial tone.

[NewJeffCT]

22. I don't think there was ever a dial tone

it was his imagination

[texanwitch]

21. What was that about.

He see's Laurie and he changes he mind.

Yea Laurie.

Merle did take the telephone.

I hated that last scene.

The picture was true then.

[NewJeffCT]

19. don't do it Rick

don't be a moran

[NewJeffCT]

20. ok, he stopped himself

but,Merle took the initiative

[texanwitch]

24. Merle is trying it protect himself and his little brother.

He will sell out the rest of the group.

He had never forgiven them leaving him on the roof.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. But he didn't tie her hands with barb wire.

What does that mean? Can Merle be saved?

[Baitball Blogger]

31. Yes! Merle can be saved!

I bet Michonne follows him to Woodbury and saves the day--Saves Angela!

[texanwitch]

34. I hope Merle goes after the Gov.

Hope so.

[Baitball Blogger]

40. I think we owe Merle an apology.

[Apophis]

23. Merle needs to die.

[texanwitch]

26. He needs to become a zombie.

Merle needs to die soon.

Hot wired the car and the alarm is going off.

Go girl, two zombie kills.

She got into the car, I rather run from the zombies.

[NewJeffCT]

27. thought he might get it there

but, he barely escaped

[texanwitch]

28. I think he might get it next week.

The big battle.

She should have ran and left him to the zombies.

The woman has lines, finally.

I would not have got into the car, rather have become a zombie.

Less painful then the Governor's treatment.

[Apophis]

33. He had a change of heart.

He let Michonne go.

Hopefully he'll try to kill the governor.

[texanwitch]

36. He could do it.

Sneak in.

[texanwitch]

29. Cool, he is letting her go.

Everbody breathe.

Now, what is he going to do.

[NewJeffCT]

32. Weird that he let her go, though

I wonder why?

[charlie and algernon]

30. so he let her go

Merle is a racist asshole, but the writers have made him a complex racist asshole.

[NewJeffCT]

35. weird

I kept expecting her to get the jump on him or something, and escape.

But, he let her go

[charlie and algernon]

37. She got him thinking about his past and what he's become.

If there's ever a prequel to the Walking Dead, I want to see the back story of Merle and Daryl.

[Baitball Blogger]

44. I'm afraid it's a story as old as time.

[Baitball Blogger]

38. It's a zombie Conga line!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

71. If only Merle was blaring some Desi Arnez instead.

[texanwitch]

39. See what he is doing.

Walkers to the table.

Got to give him a pat on the back for this.

Never thought I say that.

[Apophis]

43. Looks like Merle is dead.

He died doing good.

[charlie and algernon]

41. FUCKING TALKING DEAD

Once again, let's show an emotional scene and follow up with FUCKING APPLAUSE.

[krispos42]

42. Merle's dead!

Holy shit!

[NewJeffCT]

45. went out like a hero

took out 3-4 of the Governor's troops

[krispos42]

48. And almost got the Governor, too.

Damn the redshirt that got in his way.

[texanwitch]

49. He did try, just needed more walkers.

Merle did turn into a good guy.

[texanwitch]

46. He tried.

The gov bite Merle's fingers off.

Will Merle come back as a zombie, I hope so.

He looked like one in the picture.

[NewJeffCT]

47. Daryl will find him

and have to put him down

[Apophis]

50. That's what I'm guessing.

[texanwitch]

52. That would be hard on Daryl.

He could still take out the Gov as a zombie.

The Gov just spit out the fingers.

Glen wants to marry Maggie, that is so sweet.

[Apophis]

55. You re right.

[krispos42]

56. Good call!

[krispos42]

51. I think the Governor scrambled Merle's brains

I hope so, at least, for Daryl's sake.

[texanwitch]

53. I hope so to.

Darly would do it.

[krispos42]

54. I WAS WRONG!!!!

[texanwitch]

57. Yes, he is a zombie.

O no.

[Baitball Blogger]

58. How many people have a personal reason to kill the Governor?

Daryl
Michonne
Angela
Glenn
Maggie

One of them is going to kill that S.O.B.

[lunatica]

75. Her name is Andrea, not Angela

At least that's who I think you mean.

[Baitball Blogger]

76. yup. Andrea.

Thanks.

[texanwitch]

59. The gov did that for a reason maybe.

He couldn't have missed a headshot at that range.

[NewJeffCT]

60. Yes

He didn't want to give him a clean death

[texanwitch]

62. He wanted our side to find him as a walker.

His little brother was the main one.

I think this will make little brother mean now.

[texanwitch]

61. Merle did take out several men.

How many good fighters does the Gov have left.

Not counting Ben.

[Recovered Repug]

63. How did Merle know where the meeting was?

He wasn't there when Rick and the Governor met. I don't remember anyone giving him directions, did they?

[texanwitch]

64. Good question.

Does look like our guys are bugging out from the previews.

Andrea looks beat up in the chair.

The actor playing the Gov still looks creepy to me.

I don't know if I would want to alone in the same room with him.

[texanwitch]

65. I have heard that next weeks last episode might be longer then normal.

I hope so.

Maybe less commericals.

I found the pictures on a walking dead forum.

[Solly Mack]

66. Well, golly.

Poor Daryl.

[texanwitch]

67. First Carl, now Daryl.

A walker world is hard to live in.

[Solly Mack]

68. And Andrea. She put down her walker sister.

Lot of damage to Michonne's trust. Looking forward to see how that plays out.

[texanwitch]

69. I forgot about that.

Michonne did come back to the prison.

I wonder if she was just taken to help in the fight.

The two of them could have taken out the Gov. and maybe made it out.

I am watching the episode again.

I really did like Carol's speech in the beginning.

[Solly Mack]

86. I think she intends to remain with the group but trust would be an issue.

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Would be for me.

Carl looked ashamed when his Dad told of his actions.

People will wonder who would Rick consider selling out next time.

I think Rick did both harm and good in his admission. Gotta see which outweighs the other.

Preview showed people packing up. I wonder if some or all leave the prison...or none. "Welcome to the Tombs" is season finale title and the tombs are what T-Dog named the part of the prison that still has walkers. (and a place to go once you've died...quiet as a tomb) Double entendre maybe?

Did Rick's group go into the tombs? Do the Governor's group find an empty prison filled only with the dead? Do Rick's group enter the tombs and the Guv's group follow?


I think Merle took matters in his own hand because he had his own agenda. It wasn't just believing Rick couldn't do it. Merle wanted to kill the Governor and anyone else he could. He knew enough of how the Governor operated to know they would already be in place at the water towers. He knows how deadly a fight would be between the two groups and he does love his brother.

On Talking Dead the actor said he his character was just tried of hearing Michonne talk but I think Merle knows Daryl would have hated him for turning her over. And he knew Daryl should live if only one if them could. He owed Daryl...or so he thinks. Remember Daryl's back? All the whip marks? That jolted Merle to his core.

Merle was a belligerent and mean man and his anger took the place of his pain, as is often the case with anger. He was always angry around the prison group even before the rooftop in Atlanta. He felt they looked down on him, that caused him pain...he reacted in anger. At Woodbury where being mean is an asset, he had only to be careful of the Governor. Merle was smart enough to know the Governor was truly out there. Tyrese, for example, won't make it in Woodbury - he isn't mean. He's a hothead but he's not malicious.

Merle died trying to do good in his own way. Which isn't always the best way. That his brother had to put him down seemed almost inevitable. It had to be that way. Daryl had to be the one.


I think maybe Tyrese or Milton will save Andrea.

But what if...while the Guv was attacking the prison, Rick's group took Woodbury? Just a thought. lol

I like how Carol has grown. It was always there in her.

I know how the comics go on the second attack....wonder how the show will? I'm looking forward to being on pins and needles.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

70. Rick is one shitty leader.

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Its fine that he's a little crazy, but for Christ sakes, how could anyone in his group trust him again. Certainly not Michone. He's responsible for Merle's death too.

Edit to note, that its only been a year since he killed Shane too.

[NewJeffCT]

72. good point

If it wasn't for Rick, Merle might still be alive and they'd have another fighter on their side.

The preview makes it look like Woodbury is bringing out the big guns next week - looked like a grenade launcher shooting at the tower there.

[RiffRandell]

74. Yeah, I was disappointed in his speech last night at the end.

I loved his one in the last episode of the last season when he was like "this isn't a democracy anymore." I liked his ballsy, take charge attitude.

Daryl should take over. Just please don't die! I'd be devastated!

[Baitball Blogger]

77. I think we could stand to give Rick a rest.

Daryl is the next logical choice.

How does it play out in the comics? Anyone know?

[NewJeffCT]

78. In the comics

It was Dale, Hershel and Tyreese that took over leadership when Rick had his leadership troubles. Andrea was still too much the loner, and Michonne too new to the group. (In the comics, they meet Tyreese before they get to Hershel's farm, while Michonne arrived not long after they got to the prison)

[texanwitch]

79. I hope the group is bugging out, looks like they are doing that in the previews.

Rick is standing in front of packed car looking around.

The prison was a good place but not with the gov around.

I bet the prison is full of walkers and other surprises for the gov's army.

That is what I would do.

The outside was full of walkers, where did they go.

They are inside the prison or the gov's army got rid of them first.

Rick needs to step down and let someone else decide.

He has PTSD, or PTZD, to many zombies to deal with.

He is broken, that was plain to see last night.

I don't know where they will go but anyplace is safer now.

If the place is full of surprises for the Gov's army, he won't have army left.

It will be a long week to see what was on the other side of that door.

[NewJeffCT]

80. I wonder what's going to happen as well

The final episode is entitled "Welcome to the Tombs"

I think they've called the lower levels of the prison the Tombs before because they're full of walkers/biters/zombies. So, my guess is they may try to retreat through the tombs.

The preview they showed has the woodbury army (spoilers in case you don't want to know)[font color=white]using a grenade launcher to hit one of the towers, and then it shows them going through the prison grounds and encountering nobody... so, my guess is that Rick's group is hacking their way through the tombs and then will either attack the remaining group at woodbury, or else take the Governor's group from behind. Could also be where the crying baby gives them away, too. [/font]

my guess.

[texanwitch]

82. Good name for the show.

It just might be the Tombs for a lot of people.

The Gov is full of himself and can't see defeat now, that is stupid.

He wants Rick and his people, and thinks they are in the prison.

Any good general would think about what might be inside the prison.

The Gov doesn't care who he kills off, people are just a means to a end.

Without the two brothers to fight, it would be best to leave.

They might have parked the cars outside the back of the prison and will retreat there.

So many ways this could go.

With the baby they may just have bugged out.

[walkerbait41]

81. Trust

Will Michone ever trust Rick again?

[texanwitch]

84. Not Rick but maybe the group.

Rick is broken now, he is no threat to her.

I don't think she wants to be on her own anymore.

[Baitball Blogger]

85. I don't think she'll have any ill feelings to Rick.

Merle made it clear that Rick couldn't go through with it. "It is all on me."

[texanwitch]

87. Still Rick did talk to him about doing it.

If he hadn't talked to Merle maybe Merle would still be alive.

I would still be a little pissed off at Rick.

I would still be with the group but Rick wouldn't be my best friend.

[Baitball Blogger]

88. When she comes back and realizes that Rick has removed himself as an autonomic leader,

I think she'll understand how sincerely sorry he is.

Also, Daryl won't blame Rick for Merle. No one could ever tell Merle what to do. It might have been worse for Rick if he never told the group about the Governor's deal.

[texanwitch]

89. Rick was being the old Rick.

Laurie death has a major effect on him.

I don't know if he will ever be right again.

They need to find some safe place to land or just travel for awhile.

They need to get away from the Gov, I bet he makes it.

This was a rough show to watch.

We don't know who will get killed off next week.

Now maybe Carol and Daryl will get together.

I would love to see this.

[Baitball Blogger]

90. Isn't it funny how we can change our minds about a character with just one act of kindness?

Maybe there's still hope for Andrea, yet?

[texanwitch]

91. Andrea knows she was wrong, but she is tied up in a chair.

If she can escape she will do something good also.

She was coming back to the prison to warn them.

She tried to kill the gov in the last episode.

The group is coming back together, what is left of them.

[NewJeffCT]

92. Now, how does Andrea escape?

Milton is really her only hope right now, I'd think?

[texanwitch]

96. I think so to.

The Gov will not be happy if the prison is empty.

I wouldn't want to be Andrea.

He would take it out on her.

[charlie and algernon]

83. Here's "The Scene"

[NewJeffCT]

93. I was surprised they had Daryl so emotional

After Carl had coolly killed his pre-zombified mother, and Andrea had also coolly killed Amy.

[Baitball Blogger]

94. But, didn't both of them have a chance to say good-bye?

[texanwitch]

95. Found this on youtube.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

97. Anyone else get the feeling

that the pocket watch scene was significant in that it was Hershel's swan song, and leadership of his family has now been passed to Glen. Now I'm convinced that next episode Hershel will die, but Maggie (and maybe Beth) and Glen survive.

[texanwitch]

98. I thought about that also.

If Hershel thought he could save his girls he would.

Glen stepping up to want to marry Maggie, also looking out for Beth would make the difference.

I hope not, I like Hershel.

They need his medical training.

Someone is going to die next week.

I would think maybe Hershel staying behind and taking out some of the Gov's army.

That would let the rest of the group get away.

He can still shoot, he is a good shot.

I don't want to think about that scene.

He is staying alive for his daughters, he doesn't like the world the way it is.

[NewJeffCT]

99. Finally, in post #98

somebody (you, texanwitch) mentiond Glenn & Maggie getting married.

I was hoping he'd at least take a knee & ask, but I guess it wasn't meant to be.

[texanwitch]

100. Glen did find her a ring, the walker didn't need it anymore.

Maggie never asked where did you get it.

That is life in a zombie world.

I hope that Maggie's father marries them next week.

That would be a nice scene.

Next week will be rough.

I can see the ending now.

Our group reduced in number leaving behind a loved one in a destroyed prison.

That was their home.

It would be better if they left, to many memories.

[NewJeffCT]

101. I wonder if it will be similar to them leaving the farm?

them leaving the farm was pretty final - it was burning down around them and overrun with hundreds, if not thousands, of walkers.

Just a guess - they open with The Governor torturing Andrea as the pre-credits scene.

Post credits - the Governor gives his speech to rally the troops in town and then, the Woodbury army loads up and rolls out to the prison while Hershel (or Rick, since he's sort of the captain of the group) marries Glenn & Maggie. (maybe the wedding scenes are cut in between the army loading up & rolling out, to give the impression they'll be caught with their pants down.)

No idea where Milton fits in and if/when he frees Andrea. Not sure what Tyreese will do, but I know the two guys with Tyreese will be part of Team Woodbury.

I think most of Woodbury is doomed, though.

[texanwitch]

102. I don't think there will be alot of Woodbury people left.

In last night episode, our guys were already getting ready for battle.

That trip when they found Morgan might have given Rick and his little group ideas.

Just last night the Gov lost a lot of people, with just one man and his walkers.

If the Gov makes it, he will need find another bunch of suckers .

Just a few good trip wires would do the job.

Scare the hell out of the Gov's little army.

He doesn't have a battle tough army.

Hand to hand with zombies isn't what they are used to.

I can see the Gov hanging back when the army goes into that door.

If I was Rick I would let them come in and start looking, and then spring my surprise.

I would cut them off from the door, maybe let loose a few walkers.

Let the war begin.

The army has big guns, we saw that last night in the previews.

At some point his army will have to search, that is when you get them.

The Gov thinks he can't help but win.

I was just watching a show about the Roman Army being destoyed by Germans in the woods.

The Germans let the Romans get deep into the woods and then cut them off.

The Roman army didn't stand a chance.

Our guys just have to handle this right.

And have escape route.

[NewJeffCT]

103. uh oh - Norm Reedus to appear on Talking Dead this Sunday

usually, not a good sign.

[texanwitch]

104. Someone is going to get killed on this episode.

This why I don't like to get attached to anyone on this show.

You know he wants to the Gov really bad.

Go out with a bang.

No, he and Carol needs to get together.