How to Show a Prospective Employer You're No Sheep

[Shankapotomus]

The next time you go for a new job interview...when they hand you the ethics/personality test, hand them a few copies of a test for them you drew up yourself to be filled out by a few of the chief operating officers, the head of human resources and high level managers of the company. If they decline, ask them why you would work for somebody who refuses to fill out a personality test while, at the same time, requiring you to do so.

Just to let them know you know there are no written rules that say they control the entire vetting process. Definitely a Carliesque move. Keeps those conceited bastards on their toes.

I know there are DUers bold enough to try this. I am but I'm not on the market for a new job (Though I might do it just for kicks.) But when I am, I pledge to DU I WILL do this and post a full report.

[loli phabay]

1. does not seem a good idea if you want the job, or a waste of time just to do this.

[Shankapotomus]

2. But then

Do you really want a job from someone so ready to treat you unfairly as a matter of regular business practice? They have us so brainwashed we don't even question our own submissiveness.

How did it happen that one side of a business transaction sits there in submissive fear while the other side makes all the demands and controls the whole process?

I challenge and question that.

It's veiled coercement. If they deny you, then it was all pretend. The mutual equal footing of prospective employee and prospective employer was just a lie. They don't have to even consider meeting your ethical standards for the transaction.

Just saying.

[Nikia]

3. Except when I applied for a job through an employment agency, I have not had to do this

I passed when I was looking for a summer job in college. I evidently failed when I went through this a little over a year ago. They didn't contact me after I emailed them the test.
In my current job, I only sent them a resume attached to a brief email. They interviewed me rather straight forwardly, but found someone who was a better fit. Two months later, they called and wanted to interview me for another position. I interviewed with more people. I got the job and a year later supervise both the person they hired over me the first time, my former position, and six others.
They hired me because I set a school track record with no competition when they asked me where my motivation comes from and the body language expert had no doubt that the story and my motivations and drive to succeed were genuine.
Those multiple choice tests tell them nothing.

[Shankapotomus]

4. Either they mean nothing or

the results don't get passed along to other employers.

My next interview, I'm bringing a body language expert.

[Nikia]

5. It was their guy

They introduced him as a "manager from corporate". He said nothing during the interview. He only observed. I didn't know that he was a body language expert until after I was hired.

[Honeycombe8]

6. I recommend doing that...if you don't want the job. Otherwise, play nice and get along.

You don't get a job by bucking authority and the rules of the company. They want employees who follow the rules and respect the authority of their supervisors.

I've never had to do a personality test at an interview. I had to do one before getting an interview once. I didn't get the interview! Maybe they could tell by my answers that I'm a serial killer? Truth is, they had tons of people send in those profiles over a period of time. I never heard of anyone who actually got an interview at the place, altho I'm sure someone must have.

[Shankapotomus]

8. The object is not necessarily to get the job

or, at least, every job where you try this. The object is to challenge the system, reveal its weaknesses and hypocrisies to itself. And to gain a greater consciousness of how we are unknowingly being manipulated.

We are asleep. We are so beaten we are conforming in ways out of silent intimidation we aren't even aware of anymore.

[RudynJack]

7. Good luck when the

unemployment runs out!

[Shankapotomus]

9. Wow

Where's your fight?

[mrmpa]

10. Try going for a job interview.................

and they have you fill out forms allowing them to do a credit check, I turned it back in, having written on it "if I have a fiduciary responsibility, you may do a credit check". I have excellent credit, but I don't want anyone to fuck with it.

This was for a job as a mental health counselor. There was no circumstance in this position that I was to be responsible for the handling of money.

Needless to say, I didn't get the job.

[Shankapotomus]

11. Sorry about the job

...but, but...That's the fighting Democratic spirit! It's the little things we cave on that gives them further impetus to play us for fools. I'm glad you said no and, in the grand scheme of things, they weren't worth your time. I wonder what they wanted with your credit?

[mrmpa]

12. Thanks................

this was all pre hire. I've worked in Human Resources and I learned that you make an offer contingent on certain things, such as a criminal record check and credit check , but again only if the position is one where you will be handling money.

It's just getting fucking weird out there.

[hay rick]

13. Earth to Shankapotomus.

Baaa-d news! Employers are looking for sheep.

[Shankapotomus]

14. I know, hay rick! Nt