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California Jam Festival in 1974 Live on Youtube. I still love that song the same now as I did when I saw them perform it live when I was 17 years old in Pittsburgh, Pa. Aug of 1974. Was anybody at that show, The California Jam? What is it about that song? Even though I'm a Pink Floyd fanatic who else has fond memories of that song those times of English Progressive Rock of the early to mid 70's?
Systematic Chaos
(8,601 posts)I was born in 1969 but I'm still into all of that British prog like white on rice!
I got there via the proliferation of prog-pop in the early 80s, when bands like Asia, Yes and Genesis were scoring all of their hit singles, and by the time I had my first job out of high school, I was spending around half of every paycheck on vinyl albums, cassettes and CDs. I simply couldn't get enough music.
Funny thing, though, is that I was into this wide variety of styles which most people considered anathema to each other. I caught so much shit in 1983 or so when Duran Duran and Iron Maiden were both breaking out big among various cliques of high school kids, but I loved both bands at the same time.
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)were only into Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, David Bowie and Deep Purple only back in 1974-75. Even music writers criticized, actually hated ELP, Genesis, Yes, Hawkwind and Kraftwerk as bloated, overindulgent, selfish rubish was the word they used for them in 1973-75.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)It's a 5 part epic.
Entry 1: Before it was a joke, prog was the future of rock n roll.
By David Weigel|Posted Tuesday, Aug. 14, 2012, at 3:45 AM ET
The death of real rock n roll began one morning in 1964, at the Organ Center in the southern England city of Portsmouth. Keith Emerson, 19, had 200 pounds to spend on a keyboard. He had options. But he got distracted by something bigger, more beautiful, and beyond his means.
There it was, he remembers in his autobiography, resplendent in beautiful shining mahoganythe Hammond L 100 electric organ. I played it. He heard the warm tones, engineered to sound like they came from pipes, but with distinctive warm hums. That was the sound.
Read the rest at Slate.
(edited to fix overly long link)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Prog was the single greatest subgenre of rock music ever. It was the logical outgrowth of the Beatles' experimentations.
I will stop here before I get going with a very long and scurrilous piece of vitriol about rock critics. Suffice it to say that Zappa was right: "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." The same goes for critics.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Negative impressions by critics notwithstanding (the author likes Prog, btw), the article gives a decent history/timeline of progressive rock - a genre that emerged around the time I was born. I missed it then, and discovered it much later as a teenager...and then learned even more about it with the advent of the internet (thanks, Pandora and the 70s English Progressive channel on Live365.com!).
I agree about rock critics - music is really much too subjective to reach any meaningful consensus about what's "good" (influential, maybe, but "good" is merely an opinion).
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)There are a few small factual errors - Rick Wakeman joined Yes from the Strawbs in 1971, not 1969, and returned in 1976.
Prog was, as the author says, the best and weirdest rebellion of them all.
I took classical and theater organ lessons when I was 12-14. Then I saw Wakeman and Emerson and realized that they were playing the modern version of the Mighty Wurlitzer and was gone, musically speaking. Genesis, Yes, ELP, Deep Purple (for the harder edged stuff) Camel, King Crimson and eventually Can, Tangerine Dream and Van der Graaf Generator, Caravan, Hatfield and the North and many others - that was the music that inspired and transfixed me. Music which went, in Gene Roddenberry's words, where no music had gone before.
For me English prog - and English prog was the gold standard and Krautrock was something even stranger and more dangerous - was about daring ambitiously. There has never been anything like it since.
We had imagination in those days and looked to the stars rather than towards the rubbish at our feet. Wondrous times they were. I am very thankful that I was there to partake of them.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)In Concert that night. But at least I got to see ELP live later on that summer Aug. 74. How bout Deep Purple and Richie Blackmore he got a little out of hand that night didn't he?
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Sorry, I wasn't more clear.
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)your post again. ELP was the first and maybe the best Rock Concert I ever saw. From what I can remember of it, if you know what I mean..lol.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Ritchie was a fairly serious speedfreak at that time and that his meltdown was the result of speed-driven mania. Never knew if it was true, but he did have anger management issues, to be sure.
TrogL
(32,822 posts)nolabear
(41,987 posts)And I have loved it ever since. Welcome back myfriends, to the show that never ends! Never goes out of style, does it? I loved ELP, though they never had the genius of Floyd. I liked ELO too, though they were short-lived and possibly deservedly so. Loved King Crimson, Traffic, Genesis...those were some good times. But nobody has stuck with me like Floyd.
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)may have been the best concert I ever saw. But Roger Waters The Wall 2012 show in Pittsburgh, Pa. this past July 3rd may have been the best concert I have ever seen in 38 years.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)He did a lot of other wonderful things and then the whole album. And it was magnificent. Did he use the mix of film and stage for The Wall the way he did for Dark Side?
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)He did use a mix of film and stage on The Wall Live both in 2012 and 2012. I did see the In The Flesh Tour 1999 in Pittsburgh and his visual effects were just as good.
TrogL
(32,822 posts)I was half thinking of mortgaging the house and flying to Quebec for the last concert
sendero
(28,552 posts)... a link, I'm not finding this.
That said, the link I did find confirmed my belief that Keith Emerson is the best rock keyboard player EVER by a huge margin, and that Carl Palmer is insufferable.
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)California Jam Festival and it came up. I burned it on CD.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... I'll try that
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Black Oak Arkansas and a few other groups are shown too.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... thanks!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)KE9 was the absolute apex of ELP's genius.
Saw the Brain Salad tour with the quad sound system waaaay back in 1973. Awe-inspiring!
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)Brain Salad Surgery album. The way it bounced all around, then going in circles at The Civic Arena in Pittsburgh Pa.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)At the long demolished Met Center here in Mpls. The Mall of America now sits on that spot. That says something, but I am not sure what.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)Freaked out on the quad sound, that is, until the spinning keyboard