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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 11:02 AM Jul 2012

Dog-friendly home designs

Got curious about dog-friendly home designs and did some research. Turns out there is very little out there. Some estimate that we have been living side by side for 100,000 years but deign wise we haven't made it all that far beyond the doggie-door.

Japan leads the way in dog designs. Japan.

http://www.inman.com/news/2012/01/6/a-house-thats-dogs

I may have the opportunity to have a house built to my specs soon and would love to incorporate my dogs into the design of the home. I have trained my dogs to pee on gravel and would have a patch of gravel between the dogs' door to the yard and the yard itself. I'm also thinking that there could be an outdoor area specifically designed to allow the dogs to cool themselves when they want. Usually my dogs will dig and the ground in a shady spot and put their bellies against the moist and cooler dirt but a friend made a self-heating cat bed (has a weight sensor so it goes on when the cat lays there) which got me thinking about possibly a fan or even small AC that could be motion or occupancy sensor triggered.

Any thoughts or wish list items for dog friendly design?

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Dog-friendly home designs (Original Post) KurtNYC Jul 2012 OP
I need an indoor ball field. bluedigger Jul 2012 #1
this guy has one KurtNYC Jul 2012 #2
That's the ticket! bluedigger Jul 2012 #3
Shit! What is that dog doing wasting his time playing fetch? Duer 157099 Jul 2012 #7
I can't decide if that's cute or sad. Phentex Jul 2012 #8
he's having the time of his life NJCher Jul 2012 #21
How cute. To think my husband takes the little dogs when he rides his bike. They go all the southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #24
Very cool designs! This is what pipi_k Jul 2012 #4
that is awesome KurtNYC Jul 2012 #6
FABULOUS! elleng Jul 2012 #10
I admit that I've been thinking in terms of home-friendly dog designs phantom power Jul 2012 #5
Bedlington Terrier elleng Jul 2012 #11
yeah, but I don't especially like the curly haired breeds phantom power Jul 2012 #12
Don't get a cattle dog XemaSab Jul 2012 #34
An indoor patch of grass. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #9
I can't remember what they're called... harmonicon Jul 2012 #13
I've made a facsimile of that, to test it before spending hte $. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #14
It definitely wasn't easy to get our dog to use it. harmonicon Jul 2012 #17
How did you train your dogs to go on gravel? nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #15
I have raised them from puppies and created a trigger word KurtNYC Jul 2012 #18
Oh, I know how to train dogs to potty. I meant the gravel part. It's because they Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #28
the puppy part helped but I would try expanding the surface options KurtNYC Jul 2012 #30
Ahhh. I get it. I'll give it a shot. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #33
I did same as KurtNYC with regard to "hurry" DeschutesRiver Jul 2012 #25
We just got a puppy two weeks ago. emmadoggy Jul 2012 #26
Congrats on the new puppy - I do miss "puppy breath":) nt. DeschutesRiver Jul 2012 #27
I found one thing that helps with this is doing at least one other activity KurtNYC Jul 2012 #32
It's the gravel part I was really asking about. Mine won't go on anything but grass, since that's Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #29
Well actually TuxedoKat Jul 2012 #16
We almost bought a house that had it's own dog bath/shower stall in the laundry room. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #19
I like that -- maybe just a tiled corner of the mud room that has a shower handset KurtNYC Jul 2012 #31
Our dogs own our house Smilo Jul 2012 #20
nice designs linux80386 Jul 2012 #22
na na na na na tru Jul 2012 #23
I would like some kind of built in vacuum system XemaSab Jul 2012 #35
Fans don't do much for dogs Major Nikon Jul 2012 #36

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
7. Shit! What is that dog doing wasting his time playing fetch?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jul 2012

He should be working at a factory or something!!

That is an awesome video. I want to build one of those for my dog, any idea where the specs are?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
24. How cute. To think my husband takes the little dogs when he rides his bike. They go all the
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jul 2012

way around the block with him. Although we kinda got worried yesterday when our hot dog didn't bring up the rear. We had to go looking for him in our car. When we got home and we got out we called his name and he came running. We were so happy to see him. My little BooBoo.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
4. Very cool designs! This is what
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jul 2012

we have at our house...







The doggy house is attached to the house with free access in and out to the fenced yard. The upper portion is pea gravel and is closed off from the lower grassy portion when it rains and overnight until the pups do their morning poo. Easier to pick it up in gravel than grass.

There is a "patio" area for outside lounging, and the inner area for a second pup. A small Red Maple provides shade in the summer. The windows have sliding plexiglas panels for wintertime. The ramps were put there for easy access for our older dogs, and when one of them started having balance problems, we put a railing on to keep him from falling off the ramp.

Inside, there is an empty space beneath the stairs to the second floor, and each of them has her own crate where they can sleep, or not, as they choose.

There is a motion-activated light on the side of the house, and another on the barn, 16 feet away, plus the fence is lined with little lights on an automatic timer (no streetlights out here!).

All in all, I would say they have it pretty good here!


KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. that is awesome
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jul 2012

and reminds me to think about potential hip issues and how a flat layout would help. I was already thinking in terms of a ranch style house for myself as I get older and since my dogs are 90 lbs each, I should avoid having stairs be part of their path also.

Also, having a covered area for pee in the rain is a great idea.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
5. I admit that I've been thinking in terms of home-friendly dog designs
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:09 PM
Jul 2012

like, no-shed dogs. dogs whose urine doesn't make dead spots on the lawn. that sort of thing.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
12. yeah, but I don't especially like the curly haired breeds
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jul 2012

The dogs with under-coats seem to shed the worst. Maybe I'll avoid those in the future.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
13. I can't remember what they're called...
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

but there's a business in LA that makes (made?) sort of dog port-a-potties. It was like a two or three foot square patch of astroturfish stuff on some sort of base. They had them on the deck of the building in LA where they made them, and they had dog-friendly parties there.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. I've made a facsimile of that, to test it before spending hte $.
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jul 2012

I brought in outside grass onto a plastic tray covered with a bath mat. On top went a small patch of outside grass. I put a potted plant sitting in the corner (for the male, who likes to lift his leg against things). I even put a paper towel with some of his urine on it, for him to get the idea.

No go. Neither of my dogs had any interest in going near that thing. I moved its location a couple of times, and finally threw it out.

It would be such a great thing, if they'd use it! But I just couldn't get them to do it!

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
17. It definitely wasn't easy to get our dog to use it.
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 02:28 AM
Jul 2012

She eventually did, reluctantly. My friends have a loft in a place where they had these. It's in an industrial area, and there's no grass outside either; she had to go somewhere.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
18. I have raised them from puppies and created a trigger word
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 09:00 AM
Jul 2012

I would take them out to the gravel when I knew they had to go and at first would wait for them to start eliminating before saying the word(s) -- "better hurry." Then praise them and maybe treat them after they went. Next, I would take them to the spot and say "better hurry" before they go, praise them, etc. Now they will pee on command.

We also have a hand signal for better hurry which we created by doing the hand signal while saying the command. I had deaf dogs before and really got hooked on hand signals. They are very clear to the dogs, even hearing dogs, because dogs are more tuned to body language than sound. Dog's hearing is somewhat imprecise and many words sound the same to them. Plus I think they hear so much spoken language which is not directed at them that it becomes like background noise to be tuned out.

This is my favorite trainer and researcher, Dr Bonnie Bergin:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Bergin

She mostly rejects wolf-pack and alpha dog theories and has pioneered a Zen approach to dog training. When she started training service dogs no one believed that people in wheel chairs could control a dog because all of the alpha dog stuff said that you have to dominate the dog physically. Bergin's practices use Zen, 5 modes of training and the emotional bond between dog and human.

Puppy training at Bergin University (includes "better hurry&quot :

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. Oh, I know how to train dogs to potty. I meant the gravel part. It's because they
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:46 AM
Jul 2012

were puppies, I guess, and not used to grass.

Yes, mine will potty (or poop) on command, and understand "hurry." But they won't go on anything other than grass, unless there is no grass around and they absolutely can't hold it.

I have a yard, so they were trained for grass. Now, they won't go on potty pads or in the garage or anything else, which is what I would like if there's a storm outside, or they have to go while I'm at work.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
30. the puppy part helped but I would try expanding the surface options
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:27 AM
Jul 2012

by having gravel with either the scent of their pee on it (paper towel under the gravel) or the urine of another dog.

Most dogs have a strong preference for dry surfaces and will avoid peeing on any surface that lets the urine pool up around their feet so that can be tough with pads or newspapers.

DeschutesRiver

(2,354 posts)
25. I did same as KurtNYC with regard to "hurry"
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jul 2012

My words were "hurry up", used them while eliminating (either when they were doing it or even slightly before when I could see them about to do so).

I adopted a 2 year old dog last month, who is getting what "hurry up" means; have taught two other older adoptees as well as all the pups I've raised over 30 years. It works and is a very handy command!

emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
26. We just got a puppy two weeks ago.
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jul 2012

I have been using, "Get busy" for the same purpose. I think it is starting to work!

It is really nice, since there are many times when this puppy just wants to go out and lie in the cool grass, eat leaves or anything else he can find in the grass etc. I THINK he is starting to connect the "get busy" command, which is really starting to save some time on his potty outings! As you said, it is VERY handy!

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
32. I found one thing that helps with this is doing at least one other activity
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:37 AM
Jul 2012

with the dog outside between the peeing and going in. Some dogs learn that as soon as they eliminate they get put back in the house immediately and you leave, so they hold it as long as they can when outdoors. Problem is, often we really do need to leave right away but something as brief as brushing their fur, tossing a ball or training on one command will break that connection. It can be as short as 60 seconds or so.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. It's the gravel part I was really asking about. Mine won't go on anything but grass, since that's
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jul 2012

what they were trained on. I should say that they will go on something else, if there's no grass around and they can't hold it. Otherwise, they're grass trained.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
16. Well actually
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jul 2012

we're getting ready to do some major renovations to our home and planning a room/areas/etc., for the pets is a major priority. Thanks for posting this -- ,aybe it will help me with some design ideas.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
19. We almost bought a house that had it's own dog bath/shower stall in the laundry room.
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jul 2012

Thought it was the coolest thing ever. Plan to add one to a house eventually.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
31. I like that -- maybe just a tiled corner of the mud room that has a shower handset
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:30 AM
Jul 2012

for a quick washing on the way into the house.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
20. Our dogs own our house
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jul 2012

........ we are just the humans who are around to feed and give the occasional back scratch.



XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
35. I would like some kind of built in vacuum system
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jul 2012

to deal with cleaning up the dog hair.

There's JUST. SO. MUCH.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
36. Fans don't do much for dogs
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:02 AM
Jul 2012

Fans work great for humans because we cool ourselves by sweating and airflow cools us by sweat evaporation. Dogs mainly cool themselves by panting, so fans aren't effective for them. However if you have water spraying on the fan you effectively have an evaporative cooler which would work if the dog would stay in front of it. A piece of smooth granite in the shade might be good too.

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