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What can I say, I got Nasty Hobbits! (Original Post) fizzgig Jul 2012 OP
I may be perverted, twisted and sick as my coffee cup says. hobbit709 Jul 2012 #1
ha! fizzgig Jul 2012 #3
Technically Gollum was a hobbit too. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #2
he was hobbit-like fizzgig Jul 2012 #4
No, actually he WAS a hobbit. He killed his brother of his "birthday present". HopeHoops Jul 2012 #5
that's the movie fizzgig Jul 2012 #6
Okay, agreed, Deagol wasn't his brother, just a relative, but they were both Stoorish hobbits. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #8
I always took that as a way of saying he WAS a hobbit: Withywindle Jul 2012 #10
LOL. Nice one. bluesbassman Jul 2012 #7
WHAT eyes those are! turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #9

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
4. he was hobbit-like
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

his people were " ...a clever-handed and quiet-footed little people. I guess they were of hobbit-kind:akin to the fathers of the fathers of the Stoors..."

this is one of the topics where i get my nerd on.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
5. No, actually he WAS a hobbit. He killed his brother of his "birthday present".
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jul 2012

No joke, that's the way it happened. They show that in the second movie, and it's sort of gross, but he started as a hobbit. He just forgot because "my precious" became his only obsession.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
6. that's the movie
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jul 2012

in the book he's NOT a hobbit, that sentence i quoted is from the book. the movies fucked up all sorts of things. and deagol was his friend, not his brother.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
8. Okay, agreed, Deagol wasn't his brother, just a relative, but they were both Stoorish hobbits.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:17 PM
Jul 2012

And yes, my precious, that IS in the book - in "The Fellowship of the Ring". They were fishing in Gladden Fields north of Lothlórien when Deagol found the ring, Smeagol's "birthday present". They didn't screw that part up in the movie other than to put it in the opening of "The Two Towers" instead of the first one.



Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
10. I always took that as a way of saying he WAS a hobbit:
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:04 AM
Jul 2012

"I guess they were of hobbit-kind:akin to the fathers of the fathers of the Stoors..." What else would "they were of hobbit-kind" mean?


Anyway, in "Riddles in the Dark," much is made of how Gollum and Bilbo knew a lot of the same riddles and figures of speech and such, and thought in similar ways, because they had somewhat of a shared culture.

I think he was a hobbit - what else would he have been? There's no known race in Middle-earth who were a lot like hobbits but not hobbits.

(As my username might suggest, I get my nerd-on here too. )

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