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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsWhat movie scenes made you say "Bullshit!"
I mean some scene in a movie, that was total bullshit to you.
Great example:
"Star Wars: A New Hope"
Luke has just seen Obi-Wan Kenobi "killed."
He's mourning, in the passenger area of the Millenium Falcon, and with a little prompting from Han Solo, just jumps up and goes straight to blasting away at Tie fighters.
Vanje
(9,766 posts)20th century saddles on the horses , in the 13 century.......Right.
A silouette of a kilted guy playing Highland pipes, but the sound was from little Irish Ullian pipes.
They SO overused the gory 'pike thru the eye' routine.
The king guy thew the prince's effeminate friend out of a high window for audience laughs.(Ha Ha Funny! )
Also Mel Gibson is a revolting racist, antisemitic, misogynist, homophobe.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...as if they were the Celtic Gaelic-speaking Highland Scots.
People seem to be totally ignorant of the fact that Scotland is just as Germanic as it is Celtic, probably because of BS romantic nationalism. Lowland Scotland was part of the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Northumbria until it was conquered by the Kingdom of Scotland in the 900s. Following the reign of Macbeth (yes, same king as in Shakespeare's play), an England-backed aristocrat seized the throne and shifted power to the English-speaking lowlands.
I actually wrote a paper on the real Macbeth in high school, and his portayal by Shakespeare is BS, he was actually a very effective ruler and was the last Scottish king whose power base was in the Gaelic north of the country.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)of Celt and Norman decent, not Anglo Saxon.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Lol!
rightwinghunter666
(12 posts)Almost makes the film unwatchable when you count the amount of mistakes and pure fiction. I'm all for a little dramatic license but this is ridiculous.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)when they're on the stairs of cirith ungol and frodo tells sam to get lost. i nearly walked out of the theater.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)(I just couldn't get into Tolkien) perhaps explain to those of us that haven't read them why this is a bad thing. I had no problem with that part, or any part of those movies
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)Frodo telling Sam to get lost deviated from the book, but it was believable within the movie.
What I thought didn't make sense when I first saw Two Towers was how the Ents decided to go to war against Saruman. That the Orcs of Orthanc were ravaging the neighboring trees of Fangorn would have already been known to Treebeard, and he did in fact make a comment about the destruction being wrought by the Orcs. Then, when Treebeard bellowed his rage an army of Ents was immediately present to march against Saruman.
The books are so much better, but I love the movies neverthelss. One thing I did like better in Return of the King was Eowen being with Theoden when he died. I also liked the fight with the troll in the frst movie, though the troll's spear thrust would have broken Frodo's ribs even if the spearpoint couldn't pierce his mithril shirt.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Both are artforms and able to stand on their own without the other. I can appreciate an interpretation in a movie, TV show, or animation, while still enjoying the books. As I said above, I haven't read the Tolkien books, and probably won't. But I did love both the Narnia books and the movies. The third Narnia movie was the best of the three, but I'll still re-watch them all.
One of these days, I'll read the Harry Potter books, once I've written my own books. I loved the movies and could live the rest of my life without reading the books. Yet, I realize that the books will have more detail. That doesn't necessarily make them "better", just more detailed. And often it's good to see how someone else has imagined the same scene, especially if it was confusing in the book
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)... I will reiterate: I loved the movie version of the Lord of The Rings trilogy. I own a boxed set of the extended versions with appendices that tell the story of the filming. My wife and I watch the DVD's at least twice a year. I saw the movies first, then I read the books a few years later.
The books are much, much, better (more than simply more detailed). You're in for a real treat if you decide to read them.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I wasn't, as I saw you did like both the movies and the books However, I know too many people for whom the book is always better and the movie is always crap. And I don't see things that way.
I doubt I'll ever read Tolkien's books, though. I didn't like his writing style the first or second time I tried. If I can't "get lost" in a story due to a writing style that makes me work for it, then I'm not going to enjoy it. Much less be able to read it.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)As the Alien ship is crashing, and rolls over Charlize Theron's character (can't remember her character's name as they were all pretty much forgettable) and the remaining character (Shaw, I think) stumbles as the rest of the ship crashes down. Bear in mind, it's been crushing not just the other character, but also some very solid-looking outcrops of rocks, all the while shedding crashed-ship debris all around them.
Shaw is on her back as the ship bears down on her, too, and stops at just a single inch from her faceplate. Riiiiiight.
The young anthropologist has surgery to remove an alien and then is stapled with metal staples, yet still manages to run around with no problems!
sarge43
(28,945 posts)1. The incision is in the wrong place. A c-section incision is done right above the pubic bone.
2. Where's the blood and other fluids? Whatever else a c is, it's juicy.
3. Where's the placenta? One would develop whether alien needed it or not. Left it in? Ooops, about 48 hours until a massive infection sets in. Won't have to worry about the Big Wheel.
The staples and post op running around are the icing on the turd cake.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)would be when we see that the squid has somehow increased in size to having a main body as big as a human. (What was its food source?) Never mind the additional fact they'd already established that the tentacles of just the snake-alien were strong enough to snap an arm in half. Seems like the giant squid-alien should have had no trouble at all handling two humanoids.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)That film is a hot mess. Spousal unit and I were bitterly disappointed.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Jesus Criminy, it's fucking Science Fiction, what is with you nerds.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)sci-fi with fantasy.
In the book store the two genres are often squished together.
Granted there are some sci-fi writers (mostly lazy ones) who are basically just doing fantasy but in SPACE!
However actual sci-fi is quite different and leans heavily on the science.
A general rule of thumb I have is that they get one suspension of disbelief per novel and they have to make some effort to explain it (time travel requires a human skin . . . ok, weird but that's your one). And it pisses me off when they don't stick to the rules that they made up (ok so it used to require human skin but now liquid metal counts too? Did the future TSA ease up on restrictions because I find that hard to believe).
kentauros
(29,414 posts)so long as they at least try to be somewhat scientific. Prometheus had scientists, with little to no substance to the science professions they supposedly represented. They all acted rather stupidly in their roles.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)and there's no reason they couldn't have acted sensibly under the conditions and still ended up dead.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)At then you'd get the feeling that they realized they were out of their element, instead of faking their "expertise."
Confusious
(8,317 posts)The only reason "science" is there is because they use rayguns.
If your so picky on the "science", you must have hated every star trek, star wars, Babylon 5, battlestar galactica, etc tv series and movie there was....
The warp drive isn't working because the dilithium(in spell check haha) is breaking down and we need alpha particles to fix it.
Lightsabers,
Organic starships,
Downloading,
etc.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)you'll see exactly what I'm picky about. What you mention isn't part of that complaint.
Confusious
(8,317 posts)everyone of those things is about as scientific as alien.
Every one of those series has its deus ex machina.
I don't see the difference. Maybe you could enlighten me.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)before I can "enlighten" you: highlight ALL of those points you find "confusing". Otherwise, it's really pointless to explain them each one all over again.
Confusious
(8,317 posts)Your post:
I'm generally more forgiving of stories that are labeled Science Fiction,so long as they at least try to be somewhat scientific.
My posts:
The only reason "science" is there is because they use rayguns.
If your so picky on the "science"
My point:
everyone of those things is about as scientific as alien.
What's the difference.
If you just didn't like the movie, I can understand that. I didn't like points of it myself. But it's no more and no less scientific then star trek, star wars, Babylon 5, Dr .who, or any other science fiction movie or show out there.
Explain the difference in your mind.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)or not ALL of them:
Reply #170, reply to 4th law of robotics (the full post, not just the first sentence.)
See the rest of the post? It points out, rather specifically, that the "scientists" in Prometheus didn't act at all like what we would expect of scientists on an expedition, other than the opening archaeologists' dig.
I guess I have to be exceptionally "picky" for your satisfaction, so here goes, from emory of a single viewing only:
When we first see the geologist, he acts like (and looks like!) your average miner/worker/grunt, such as with the crew in the Nostromo (characters played by Yaphet Kotto, Harry Dean Stanton.) We don't find out that he's even a "real" scientist until later in the film when they're on the planet. "I'm only here for the money" or something equally weak in characterization and writing quality.
The biologist is frightened by the finding of a severed "Engineer" head, yet antagonizes an alien snake until it fatally attacks him. Why wasn't he taking samples of pretty much everything he saw, including that green goo Dave found? (And why was Dave free to just start things running without him telling anyone what he was doing in the first place, much less inform the biologist that he found something seemingly organic?)
The husband archaeologist takes his helmet off without seeing if there are no pathogens in the air. Evidence of "enough" oxygen for human life isn't enough. And before you compare this to the original Alien, they were a mining crew, not a science crew. The latter was supposed to understand basic principles of science and protocol. Sure, you had the wife archaeologist shouting at her husband not to do that, but the thought going through my head when he did such an utterly stupid thing was Fred Kwan in Galaxy Quest when he opened the hatch on the landing shuttle. If they'd done Prometheus as a parody it might have been a better movie.
And really, I am familiar with many of the excellent science fiction shows and movies that you list, and love many of them. If Scott and the studio had gotten any of the writers from any of those shows (the ones known for writing episodes that won Hugos and Nebulas, that is; no space-hippies writers, m'kay?) then Prometheus would have been a great movie. Instead, it was written by a writer known for a crappy series called "Lost" and we got a crappy movie as a result.
Is that specific enough for Your Pickiness?
Confusious
(8,317 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 9, 2012, 09:41 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm a bit more forgiving I guess, sometimes too forgiving of movies. Not that I didn't have a problem with the part where the android and others was trying to stop her from taking the thing out of her, and then didn't bat an eye when she showed up with staples in her stomach.
first point:
I met some geologists in my time, and none actually looked or acted like "scientists" (not the type you see in the movies in the white lab coats) Now that I think about, a friend I grew up with is a geologist. I would never think of her "acting" in a "scientist" way. He seemed perfectly reasonable to me. I also know astronomers, they don't walk around in lab coats, nor do they actually have a way of "acting." You'd have no idea they were scientists if you didn't ask.
Your second point:
I give you the snake part was stupid, adding that he freaked out about the head. The sample part, I look at it as they had just landed and wanted to have a look around. You get the lay of the land first and then set up shop.
third point:
The planet didn't support life outside, so there could be no pathogens. Inside, if they can detect oxygen, why not pathogens? If they can create the android, fly 32 light years, have gravity in the ship, have an autobot that does surgery, then they must have something to detect pathogens.
PS forgot antigravity. The ship doesn't actually have enough wing surface area to fly so slow. the "wings" are also pointing 45 degrees downward, reducing lift.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)how I perceive scientists. I've known real scientists, too, and sure, they "act" like normal everyday people, and no, none wore white lab coats. However, this is a movie, with people in a situation no scientist we know has ever been thrust into. Sure, they may fantasize themselves into those situations, to see how they would react. But, it's a movie. We, the audience, expect a certain amount of acting. Otherwise, we won't know shit about who these people are, what they do for a living, or even why they are there, other than the "geologist" being there just for the money.
The biologist I knew right away was a scientist. Not because of what he said, but just of his mannerisms. The "asshole" (geologist) acted like a grunt labor ditch-digger. I was expecting him to start knocking back scotch and finding his heavy machinery for excavating. Not someone who's supposed to go and observe, and look at details of rocks and planetary geology and so forth. I only know a little about geology (I've had some college classes in it) and find it especially odd that he didn't want to make a full survey of the planet before they even touched down. That alone could have added more mystery to this "Engineer" race, such as if they had found other structures on the planet than those four domes/cones.
And if they have the technology to detect pathogens, it wouldn't take more than five seconds of screen time to state that. They wouldn't even have to make any technology to show how they knew. But at least pose the problem to the viewing audience!
Remember, they were getting the lay of the land with those floating mapping balls. So, why didn't they wait until they had mapped the entire interior before deciding on which areas held the greatest interest?
Hollywood anti-gravity is rarely mentioned beyond that they have gravity on their floors, if it's mentioned at all (usually not.) Prometheus really didn't need landing engines if they had artificial gravity. Big engines look cool, so that's what we get, versus someone (finally!) explaining why they aren't necessary and could save so much energy and fuel for things like attitude thrusters. Babylon 5 did address this issue. Other than Star Trek, I can't think of any science fiction movie to mention the uselessness of big engines versus just using the gravity tech. That's a pet peeve of mine with all of Hollywood movies and shows, not just this one
TiberiusB
(490 posts)1.)The film points out that the table is programmed for procedures designed for men, so she opts for an abdominal procedure involving removal of a foreign body. There was no c-section.
2.)A placenta wouldn't have formed in just one day, unless you think the placenta is a mutant, too, in which case, anything goes. This all means that any amniotic fluid would also be limited, unless we head into mutant space baby territory...again...which means we just don't know what would be "realistic."
As for the staples and running around, well, that's where the science fiction comes in. The assumption seems to be that staples were the only treatment used to close the wound, but it's obvious watching the film that the incision is tightly sealed already and the staples are more like an insurance policy. How the wound was closed isn't made clear, but something else was done. She was also routinely injecting herself with some sort of drug to control the pain, which might account for her unusual level of mobility. She was struggling to get around at first, literally stumbling into every scene she had with other characters for the remainder of the film. Running only seemed viable when her life was directly threatened by the giant alien space doughnut ship. I was more taken aback by how she was barely able to stand during the initial confrontation with the Engineer, but could later gather up David's parts and repel down the outside of the alien ship. Clearly, once her surgery didn't serve to amplify the drama, it was effectively ignored.
Iggo
(47,566 posts)...and they still ran "the long way" like a Hanna/Barbera character running from a falling tree.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I guess the director kept them from even "thinking" about it by having Prometheus debris raining down on both sides of the rolling ship. Nonetheless, I would think they'd have chanced that versus the likelihood of being crushed by the bigger and still intact ship. It's not like it was a very long dash to the side, at best maybe fifty feet.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)poking at the vagina-cobra (come on, that's what it was and you know it) because "she" seemed friendly.
Oh and determining that the air was safe by removing their helmets. There are plenty of places on earth where you can't breathe the air safely (pollution/disease) but no, it'll be fine. On this alien planet.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)No herpetology for him. Nice choice for a biologist going off-world
Gotta question the intelligence of the trillionaire, Weyland. How'd he become so wealthy and still manage to pick such a stupid crew?
The part about the air reminded me of the scene in Galaxy Quest when Fred opens the hatch on the landing shuttle:
{The shuttle has landed and Fred is opening the hatch}
Guy Fleegman: Hey! Don't open that! It's an alien planet! Is there air? You don't know! {gulps in a breath and holds it}
Fred Kwan: [calmly sniffs the air and takes a few panting breaths] Seems OK...
Sedona
(3,769 posts)"Bitey the Vag Snake".
distantearlywarning
(4,475 posts)But I think the whole "taking off the helmet on an alien planet" scene was the absolute worst of the sorry lot.
Yavin4
(35,446 posts)once were.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)gave landing coordinates, too
Yeah, it seems odd that while they make sure we can see the technology they have for mapping underground caverns, the idea of something as mundane as mapping satellites is lost on them (both the writers, and subsequently, the crew.)
The writing is what ruined a potentially good movie. I don't remember their names, but one of them was a writer on the series Lost. That says a great deal there. Especially in the lack of characterizations and info about each crew member. For instance, I had zero idea the skinhead was a geologist! WTF? Why couldn't I have been told he was a supposed scientist instead of exactly what he looked and acted like? A grunt worker, like the rest of the crew in the Nostromo.
Here's what was missing from Prometheus and would have made the movie great: Dan O'Bannon. It's just too bad for all of us that he died a couple of years ago...
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Probably the most character driven shows ever made.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I had no interest in it whatsoever.
However, it was also a television show. They had hundreds of hours to tell their story. Prometheus was just over two hours. While a two-hour movie can be character-driven, you need to characterize your people. Otherwise, you, the viewer, don't give a shit what happens to the characters. That was one of the biggest flaws with Promethues. I simply did not care about anyone in the film, not even Dave, and he was the most interesting of any of them.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)However, in your previous post you used him working on Lost as a negative in character exposition. I couldn't let that slide. Lost is one of the greatest shows ever created and pretty much every episode had different characters exposition. You should really watch it sometime, it's on Netflix Instant.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I won't be trying it out, no matter who recommends it (I've had friends try, to no avail.) I think I will put BSG on my Netflix queue, though, as I haven't seen it since it aired.
The writing was utter crap on Prometheus. Ridley Scott would have done better with someone known for writing or working on science fiction films, not TV. I suspect that the studio had more influence on that than Scott, however. The original title as chosen by Scott was to be "Alien: Paradise" but then the studio changed it to what we got.
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Ok....
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I used it as an example of studio influence. Read more carefully, please.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Please do not waste your time on LOST.
I regret watching it.
They made it up as they went along.
How do I know?
I met one of the writers, that's how.
BSG is well worth watching though.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I need to watch it again, back to back without interruptions.
I happened to catch part of an original series episode back when the remade BSG was first starting to air. And I wondered why I liked it as a kid. Even Space: 1999 was better that "Battlestar Ponderosa"
zappaman
(20,606 posts)I want the time wasted on those 6 seasons back.
AWFUL.
The guy is a terrible writer.
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6099973/unanswered-lost-questions
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)an old actor to play Weyland.
Instead, they put someone (I don't even know who the actor was) in unconvincing old man makeup.
He didn't look frail. He didn't look old. He looked corny.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)Every fucking one of them
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)As you'll recall, the Empire had planted a tracer on the Millennium Falcon so they could track it back to the rebel base. As Princess Leia said, they let our heroes go.
I see this mentioned a lot as a "goof", but it's not.
This does not explain, however, how a bunch of teddy bears beat the snot out of the Stormtroopers with sticks and rocks in Return of the Jedi. Now, that was just goddam lame.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)They can travel around space at the speed of light, shoot lasers and blow up planets. But, the body armor the stormtroopers wear is vulnerable to ewok sticks & stones...yeah right.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)and pretend each one is an Ewok. It makes them taste sweeter when I imagine their fear as I start with the nubby little legs and work up to the arms...
Sadly, there is nothing I wouldn't throw up imagining it was Jar Jar.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)rightwinghunter666
(12 posts)So I guess it works like a Xerox if one has shitty aim and you make couple hundred copies the aim will get worse with each copy.
NNadir
(33,551 posts)in all that water inside the ship.
Supposedly Jimmy Cameron was really into realism, but apparently no one ever taught him all about hypothermia.
In real life, they wouldn't have made it 3 minutes in that water, and yet they take about 10 or 15 times as long to even get cold enough to stop making out.
The she lives.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)NNadir
(33,551 posts)I'd give the marriage a year and a half at best, less than 10 months if her mother comes to live with them.
Classic photos by the way.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)sakabatou
(42,174 posts)It was friggin possible.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)Like whenever the star of the movie gets a clue that the killer is about to get even by attacking the cop's girlfriend across town, and so the cop jumps in his car and races across town in his car to go rescue her... instead of, say, calling dispatch to send a patrol car there from just a few blocks away.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Our Hero must rescue girlfriend.
First commandment of action flicks: Guards, whatever form they take, always get killed. If they're on sentry duty, they leave the post to check out what is skulking around in the tall grass and get killed. If they're cops guarding the VIP du jour, they fall asleep or they don't hear the ominous background music and they get killed.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)she'll take out the sentries by first flirting with them, then karate chopping them once they get all cocky and entirely ignore their responsibility for guarding the villain's lair.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Hero cop must get to the scene to save the day...Never thinks to call for backup from units who would be nearer the scene.
SoDesuKa
(3,173 posts)Fraternization between ranks is more than frowned upon in the military; it's an offense punishable by miilitary discipline. Captains and sergeants do not hang out together, and are never buddies. Every time I see fraternization in a war movie, I start wondering what else they're getting wrong.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)Thief steals a brand new Mustang off the street, gets in a couple wrecks, including a front end smash.
No air bags.
That shit bothers me.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)when Darrel Hannah swims in a crystal clear Hudson River.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)and the escape scene in Silence of the Lambs
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Seriously, Hopkins plays that character so over-the-top creepy that if his Hannibal Lecter character ever were actually out on the street, he'd have people all around him frantically dialing 911 on their cell phones.
Serial killers are usually ordinary Joes and schlubs that you wouldn't look twice at. That's how they are successful at what they do.
A far better performance of Lecter, in my opinion, was Brian Cox's in Manhunter. You don't realize how seriously disturbed he is until well into his first conversation with Graham, and even then you can only imagine how crazy he really is. That's what makes him a lot scarier.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Hopkins does play him like some comic book supervillian.
Cox is the far superior actor.
I always point out to people that serial killers are not Dr Moriarty; they are pudgy guys in cheap windbreakers.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)While I understand it's more of a film based on the real events, than a true-to-life retelling, Tony Curtis' portrayal fits the bill of an "everyday Joe" perfectly! Who'd ever suspect a guy like that?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Henry- Portrait of a Serial Killer
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)and many many more
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)in the scenes when he was out in society prior to being caught he came across as pretty normal.
Could be he just decided to give up on the charade once he was caught. But if need be he can always fake being normal.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)It's great to see another fan that prefers this Lecter over what we got in the later films
Plus, Manhunter was typical of Michael Mann, in that you have believable characters throughout. Both the FBI offices and the facilities at the asylum at least seemed authentic. No keeping a serial killer in a cell that looked like it belonged in The Green Mile. Mann also likes to use real officers and other personnel, like Lecter's guard.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)taking out the serial killer at the end of the movie. Why didn't she call in a SWAT team?
kentauros
(29,414 posts)but the primary reason I couldn't stand "Silence of the Lambs" was Jodie Foster's fake southern accent. I simply couldn't accept it, and lost any sense of disbelief.
She's a great actress and I loved her in "Contact" but I really wish the producers had picked someone that you'd expect to have the proper accent, like say, Holly Hunter. She's about the right size, is a great actress, and doesn't have to try at the accent
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)for the same reason. I don't know why she chose to do that over the top fake southern accent for the whole series.
Bad Irish accents are the worst though.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)as in the actor reverts back to their normal American accent
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,341 posts)I noticed it in Taken and can't stand him since. And I like him. Maybe I should only watch movies where he is Irish.
On that note, I feel lied to and cheated to when I find out a favorite actor really has an Irish, English, Australian etc. accent. Dirty liars
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)But to me, it simply did not fit what I know as Jodie Foster's normal voice. Whereas an actress with an established Southern accent, such as Holly Hunter, is infinitely more believable in a part that calls for a strong Southern accent.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)No ruptured eardrums, no clothing, even hair, ruffled by the wave front - hell, torn off, no flying debris
Bull freakin' shit
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Won't ruin it for you, but yeah...
sarge43
(28,945 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)Just after a building explodes behind them, Will Ferrell's character says: "I can't hear! I can't hear! There's blood blisters on my hands! Oh, my God! How do you walk away in a movie without flinching when it explodes behind them? There's no way! I call bullshit on that!"
I love it when one movie calls bullshit on other movies.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)He's a locomotive engineer.
charlie and algernon
(13,447 posts)The whole climax of the movie revolves around the train stoming towards a fictional town in Central PA. Fine, it was an entertaining enough movie. I'm not a locomotive engineer and I figured most, if not all, of the train action was bullshit. But it was a fun movie nonetheless. Then, as the train was getting ever closer to the town, they showed a news report which put the town's population at OVER 600,000!!!!
BULL-FUCKING SHIT!
Now I've spent most of my life in Pennsylvania and I haven't the foggiest clue where this Baltimore-sized city has been all my life. It's not like they just renamed Pittsburgh, since Pittsburgh is specifically mentioned and shown. Adding another Baltimore to PA would be awesome! It would give the state another 3 electoral votes and place Pennsylvania firmly in the Democratic camp.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Mr. Dickless decided to have a pair of locomotives get in front of the runaway train, slow it down so the guy could be lowered from a helicopter on a rope to the runaway...and once he got on top, I guess he was supposed to just crawl off the roof down to the cab so he could shut the train off. Why in FUCK did no one say something like "Gee, Mr. Dickless, why don't we just have the helicopter guy stand on the catwalk of my rear locomotive? When the runaway train catches up to me, the helicopter guy just has to walk across the knuckle to the cab of the runaway's lead locomotive, open the cab door, go inside and put the brakes on"?
JustAnotherGen
(31,898 posts)The morning after her birthday - when everyone stays up to watch the sunrise. . . there are a TON of flowers in bloom - daisies and tulips and such . . .
Not possible in Paris on November 2nd - any year.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Seen it done way too many times.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)the exact same whistle-shriek of a hawk heard in countless films and television series...
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)using a 3-year old's tantrum screaming as a newborn's cry. Um, us moms can tell it's horribly fake. Ruins the movie for me (And like you said, all to often it's the exact same cry. JESUS get a new crying track!). Same with the fake jello all over a 4-month old to pass as a newborn after a birthing scene. I don't care how small the 4 month old is, it doesn't look ANYthing like a newborn baby.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)The "Ice Princess" storyline had gone an forever. Port Charles having been encased in ice throughout. Luke and Laura's wedding (complete with Liz Taylor) took place as soon as things were wrapped up. Every tree and flower beautifully in bloom.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)How the hell did they end up on the roof?
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)Auggie
(31,191 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)She runs onto Nicollet Island, and then ever scene after that is at Riverside. That was my old neighborhood. When I saw the movie I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how she got off the island and back on the bank.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Of course, it probably wasn't meant to be realistic, but COME on.
The prolonged invincibility of Mickey and Mallory in contrast to the most incompetent prison guards/LEOs walking was too much to believe even for satire.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)and wasn't meant to be realistic.
Kind of like complaining about Twin Peaks.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . but there's no house directly at the top of the "Exorcist Steps" in Georgetown IRL.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... just yanking my chain?
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)The steps and gas station are there, but the house had a false front built on it to make it seem like the steps were on the side leading up to the window. In reality, there's an aisle leading up to the Car Barn (classroom space and university office space for Georgetown U) on the right and a bunch of trees on the left separating the aisle and the house.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Archae
(46,347 posts)It may be "trendy," but to me it 's bullshit.
Initech
(100,103 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)"We kick ass at just BEING there!"
Initech
(100,103 posts)"You better listen to him - he's in pre med!"
kwassa
(23,340 posts)The bus that can't go slower than 55 mph in Los Angeles traffic or explode.
In Los Angeles, worst traffic in the nation.
55 mph in LA is usually a dream.
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)The scene I hated most is where the front end of the bus magically elevates so that the trajectory sends the bus to the other side.
Plus the whole movie was silly compared to another one with the same basic plot, but much better execution "Blown Away". But Blown Away didn't get promoted the same way. I'm sure it had its flaws too, but had much more tension and a better villian.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The terrorist was using the front wheels or the transmission to determine the speed of the bus, right? His bomb didn't have a GPS speedometer (did they even exist then?) or radar, so he had to be using moving parts of the bus...which, of course, will drop below 50 when the bus is in the air.
Kaleva
(36,345 posts)The love of Jame's life is killed by a bad guy but she manages to stay alive long enough for her and James to say their goodbyes. James goes after the bad guy, captures him and turns him in to the sheriff and his deputy. Asked why he, James, captured him, he replies "He killed my woman." but he doesn't bother telling the sheriff her body is still out in the woods somewhere and James just rides off into the sunset to start his life anew. Maybe James figured that the coyotes would take care of the woman he loved more then anything and had wanted to spend the rest of his life with.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)I'm so jaded.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)(Or that's what she really said, but it would have given the movie an R rating.)
"Whoever wrote this episode should DIE!"
"It's the little things in life you treasure."
However, I would like to point out the part of the movie when Tommy is taking the ship out of spacedock. I'm sure the creators are aware of this, but it's physically impossible for him to have scraped the side that way. The engine pylons stick out too far (yeah, I've watched the movie maybe too many times ) Great scene nonetheless
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Yeah, in space no one can hear the scrap. The creators were sending up every Enterprise launch ever filmed.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)I think we have that on VHS!
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)I used to think I could start a business in Hollywood going through movie and TV scripts and finding the historical and scientific bloopers and the plot holes.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Find some kind of link threading its way through them all, and then make a parody show pointing out the conspiracy behind this link between all shows and movies
arcane1
(38,613 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)J.J. Abrams had a hand in its making. His apparent modus operandi is "Let's kill as many people as we possibly can, in the most imaginative ways possible!!!1!1! Plot? Who the fuck cares about plot?!"
Confusious
(8,317 posts)in charge of the flagship of the federation.
yea right.
longship
(40,416 posts)No military org would tolerate such a thing, especially when one is a superior officer to the other.
Other Star Trek peeves:
The engineering spaces looked like a brewery -- no wonder, it was filmed at Anhauser-Busch.
The Romulan ship design was idiotic, both inside and outside.
17 year olds on a starship? What's this? Another Wesley Crusher? (I did like Anton Yelchin in the role, however.)
Any scene with Keenser, a clear future kid's toy product placement. What's next for Star Trek? Ewoks, I suppose. Or, Jar-Jar?
What I did like was: Bruce Greenwood, Karl Urban, Simon Pegg did well. Yelchin was fun.
The plot was a fucking, unbelievable chaotic mess.
And where the hell is yeoman Rand?
mucifer
(23,566 posts)Ok CPR would take up time I know that. I just gotta work on my suspend disbelief thing.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Back into normal sinus rhythm.
Even the vaunted TV show ER was guilty of showing that amazing miracle a few times.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)using stirrups that wouldn't be introduced to Western Europe for another three hundred years (by the Huns, no less...)
Sorry. History nerd...
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Don't need a bunch of extras getting their necks broken. However, a hell for leather charge through a forrest - ah no. The ground is bad - dangerously soft, holes, half buried logs, scrub brush, etc. Second, the whole purpose of a calvary charge is a condensed moving mass to break the other guy's massed infantry. Because of all the obstacles by the time the ponies were though the woods they would been strung out like washing on a line.
Aristus
(66,462 posts)And archeological evidence reveals that Roman cavalry horses were very small, very compact. Not the huge photogenic thoroughbred bays they use in the movies.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Their hoofs couldn't take the weight and the pounding. Roman cavalry were auxiliary units, used for scouting and quick hit and runs against small, lightly armed units. They were usually rent-a-grunts from the outbacks.
Still a hellva scene. "What we do in life echoes in eternity." That could be Rome's epitaph
Aristus
(66,462 posts)Thanks!
I do know that most legionary cavalry were auxiliaries, because the Romans mostly distrusted mounted units. They thought massed, heavy infantry was the way to go; and for a thousand years or so, they were right...
sarge43
(28,945 posts)But they could be had and the Parthians took them to the cleaners at the battle of Carrhae. The Parthian cavalry was another legendary fighting force. Between the cataphracts with chain mail and lances and the light cav with composite bows, they destroyed the legionaries best defense; they broke up the mass. The infantry's worst nightmare - taking on a mobile force on ground of the other guy's choosing, especially when other guy can shoot at you from a distance, outside of your range.
J. Caesar was preparing to take them on when he got fillet. Interesting what if.
The Parthians were bad ass enough that Rome made a treaty of "let's leave each other alone" which pretty much held until the Parthian empire fell apart.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)sarge43
(28,945 posts)I think he would have put a couple of heads on the Rostra -- visual aid sort of thing.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)I think his mercifulness to his opponents came in large part from his experiencing Sulla's dictatorship as a young man. He wanted history to see him as a magnanimous "Great Man" rather than a brutal tyrant who hung hundreds of heads in the Forum. Than again, perhaps, Colleen McCullough's historical novels have given me a too favorable impression of Caesar as a person.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Just a surgical strike and reminder. "Don't start anything while I'm gone or I'll let Marc "Sonny" Antony off the leash."
Growing up during Sulla's reign of terror also taught him how very quickly things could go ugly.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Pretty much the only thing they got historically right was that Commodus was a narcissistic attention whore who liked fighting in the arena. He did not murder his dad. There was no Maximus. Commodus was killed by a military coup, not in the arena, and afterwards the imperial office was sold to the highest bidder.
bluedigger
(17,087 posts)The car keeps running after "throwing a rod". Yeah, right.
The rest is totally believable, though.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)Elwood: It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
Jake: Hit it.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Jumping out of the plane without a chute and chasing Patrick Swayze in free fall?
No.
Kennah
(14,315 posts)Terrorist (Tony Perkins) takes over an oil platform in the middle of the North Sea, the British government has no elite military units, so they have to bring in a megalomaniac (Roger Moore) with his own private commando unit
Broken_Hero
(59,305 posts)Jet Plane/John McClane piggy back scene in the flick, Live Free or Die Hard....
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)Or the funny owls in Harry Potter?
sarge43
(28,945 posts)Just about all the birds in HBO's Rome.
But I still had to point out that there are movies with birds in them that aren't bad
Here's two more:
The Birds
Ladyhawke
sarge43
(28,945 posts)I may be the only person on the planet who hasn't seen The Birds, mostly because I like birds.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)It's been a while sine I saw Ladyhawke.
As for The Birds, at least see Mel Brooks' "High Anxiety" for the pigeon sequence. It's a parody of a famous scene from The Birds
sarge43
(28,945 posts)I know the general story line of The Birds. It's just I don't generally like films about animals as threats or monsters.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I generally don't like "monster" movies, either. There are a few exceptions, but nothing that's been made in the last decade qualifies
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Great Korean film!
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I generally don't like monster movies anyway. I'm not the kind of person that likes to be scared. Alien fucked me up for years, yet I still consider it a great movie
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Wow, this trailer seems underwhelming...
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Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Main theme to Ladyhawke.
I always kinda liked this peppy, pseudo-electronic music. Go 80's! Cool music to drive the open road by.
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Kablooie
(18,641 posts)But I was wrong.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)when Glenn Close tells her husband Kevin Kline to go impregnate her bff JoBeth Williams, who wants a child and whose bio-clock is ticking. I saw it on a first date, and when I expressed my skepticism over that scene, my date explained, "Well, they're really good friends." I snorted and said, "No one is that good friends."
Other than that it was a great movie.
The date, not so much.
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)Just about every driving scene that involved the car leaving the pavement.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)Such an overused cliche!
Nuh Uh
(47 posts)Independence Day
When Jeff Goldblum claims he is going to infect the alien ship with a cold - a virus. Yeah, an alien ship that crossed the universe and he is going to corrupt their system with Windows 98.
Iggo
(47,566 posts)"It doesn't work that way!"
Archae
(46,347 posts)When that woman walks out of the tunnel after everything has been nuked, the trees are still intact.
sarge43
(28,945 posts)It was a Mac.
Alexander
(15,318 posts)I don't think I even have to name the movie or describe the scene.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Denninmi
(6,581 posts)... but they can run through a Pennsylvania corn field on a late summer night without any trouble?
Seems our good director M. Night S. can't be too familiar with corn, or dew. Corn is usually drippy wet at night in the late summer, between dew and "water of guttation", which is the way corn and many other crops exude excess moisture at night through pores on their leaf margins so their cells don't literally explode from water pressure under conditions of cool temps and high humidity.
So, those aliens running through the corn field should have been burnt all over as if they had been sprayed with battery acid.
Maybe they got lucky and it was a very windy, warm, dewless night during a drought. It does seem kind of dusty when Mel Gibson drops the flashlight.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)The air is full of water. In other words, humidity. Their lungs (or whatever they use to "breathe" our air) would have been ruined as soon as they began taking it in. And if they had something to prevent that, then why walk around naked in a hostile atmosphere?
MNS should stick to ghosts and demons. They can do anything and not have to worry about those pesky scientific details
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Who shot Chris Penn? The old man is pointing a gun at Keitel, Keitel is pointing a gun at the old man, and CP is pointing at Keitel. They all shoot at the same time, one shot each. So, who shot CP?
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)But didn't Steve Buscemi shoot Chris Penn? Like a last act type of thing? Eh, I could be wrong.
sweetloukillbot
(11,068 posts)IIRC his gun goes off twice. It is possible it was Buscemi also.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Looks like I need to watch it again next weekend, it has been a while
yellerpup
(12,254 posts)Final scene: The Amistad sails for Africa from the East Coast--straight into the sunset.
Robb
(39,665 posts)yellerpup
(12,254 posts)to know that was wrong.
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)With Helen Hunt, Kevin Spacy and Haley Joel Osment. Osment's character, Trevor, has an idea to pay kindnesses forward to another person without strings attached as a school project. The idea catches on in his community, however Trevor decides to finally intervene in an altercation he has been avoiding up to this time. A classmate of his is continually being bullied and Trevor, being the kind of kid he is, finally decides to "Pay It Forward" and intervene. He is knifed and killed for his troubles. I thought it was SO unnecessary, the movie had me feeling very good up to that point. I invested a lot of emotional energy into the movie and then I walked out of the theater thinking, "Well that was bullshit and totally not necessary for them to have killed off the character". My wife felt the same way. I will NE VER watch that movie ever again because of that one scene. I even considered asking for a refund but then realized it wasn't the theater's fault that the movie was such utter bullshit!!
rwsanders
(2,606 posts)Iggo
(47,566 posts)When they killed the kid, they killed the story.
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)Pick a scene, any scene. You had to suspend belief throughout the whole movie. Lot's of action but utter bullshit. I have watched it a few times however, simply for the Steve Buscemi one liners. One of my favorites, after the last transmission on the drill rig fails (unbenowest to them, Ben Affleck, Michael Clarke Duncan and Peter Stormare are coming to save the day!!). "It's time to embrace the horror!!" I think we can all relate to this line if God forbid, Rmoney wins in November.
Or this one. "You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?"
Harry Monroe
(2,935 posts)WinstonSmith4740
(3,057 posts)One of the worst. Would it have killed them to do even cursory research so their "science" wasn't complete bullshit?
LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Yeah, everything about that movie pissed me off, from the idea that a bunch of offshore oil drillers could teach NASA about drilling into an asteroid! Into a bloody asteroid! I know anti-intellectualism rules in film and TV; but bloody hell!!!!!
And couldn't they spare a little change to hire a bright high-school nerd to tell them things about space shuttle design, like the fact that strap-on boosters and external tanks are meant to drop off!
Kennah
(14,315 posts)The part about Spurgeon Tanner (Robert Duvall) going up into space with the astronauts since he was an astronaut on Apollo 17 and the last man to walk on the moon was a bit much. However, I suspended disbelief on that point because I think in an effort to hide desperation we might do something so schlocky.
jmondine
(1,649 posts)As a former hypnotherapist, not only is this totally false, it is dangerous.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)Pretty much the whole movie, especially the part where the tornado splits into two.
Oldtimeralso
(1,937 posts)In the big tornado scene the pickup trucks windshield is broken then the must of made a pit stop in the middle of the storm because in following scenes the windshield is perfect, broken, and the again perfect.
Doc Holliday
(719 posts)is the closing credits...specifically, Respect The Wind. I love that piece!!!
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)So many bs points. When the Joker has the entire hospital, every floor, wired with explosives, and somehow NO ONE ever notices this going on. There's a bunch of this in the movie.
And of course the fight at the end where he beats the crap out of Batman and is only defeated by a gadget from the batbelt. Somehow this demented little guy (Ledger looks about 1/2 the size of Batman) is able to beat up a super ninja trained, armor plated, angry superhero.
mucifer
(23,566 posts)I know it's wrong, but I got a great kick out of the joker nurse blowing up the hospital. The fact that it was done in such a cartoon way only made it more fun to me. But then I'm a fan of the 1960s Batman tv series.
2on2u
(1,843 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)It's in the song..
With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
He pulls the spitting high tension wires down
Helpless people on a subway train
Scream bug-eyed as he looks in on them
He picks up a bus and he throws it back down
As he wades through the buildings toward the center of town
Oh no, they say hes got to go
Go go Godzilla, yeah
Oh no, there goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla, yeah
Rinji news o moshiagemasu!
Rinji news o moshiagemasu!
Godzilla ga ginza hoomen e mukatte imasu!
Daishkyu hinan shite kudasai!
Daishkyu hinan shite kudasai!
Oh no, they say hes got to go
Go go Godzilla, yeah
Oh no, there goes Tokyo
Go go Godzilla, yeah
History shows again and again
How nature points up the folly of men
Godzilla!
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)What do you think would happen?
2on2u
(1,843 posts)sakabatou
(42,174 posts)He was vulnerable to electricity. But soon after it was different: beam weapons hurt him. The only thing that'd kill him was the oxygen destroyer and Destroyah.
2on2u
(1,843 posts)sakabatou
(42,174 posts)Zavulon
(5,639 posts)The Reavers fire guns at the Serenity gang, hitting Kaylee with what appears to be the least lethal weapon ever used in science fiction, but then Simon gets finally hit and River gets pissed. So when she attacks the Reavers, they oblige her by dropping their guns and fighting her hand-to-hand, one at a time, in a scene that makes Jean Claude Van Damme movies look realistic.
That stupid scene ruined the entire movie for me. I loved the series but will never watch that movie again.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)In a survey of a hundred scientists, The Core "won" as the worst science fiction film EVER!
The heroes must drill through the crust of the Earth and the entire mantle in order to set off a nuclear explosion to make the Earth's core start spinning again. On the way (700 miles down) they break into an enormous hollow spot, a giant geode. But the pressure! The heat! Never mind.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Anyone who has ever been a firefighter will tell you that movie is the biggest crock of shit ever. The funniest part is when Baldwin breaks the extinguishers head off and throws it into the fire, THEN all the chemical comes out.
Or just about any movie where someone is running through a fully engulf building without protection and the don't die.
eShirl
(18,503 posts)I mean, my powers of suspension-of-disbelief will only stretch so far.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)AJTheMan
(288 posts)There's no way a car that heavy would be able to ride an elevator down to the first floor. Elevators can only handle so much weight, much less a solid gold car.
Godot51
(239 posts)... to anyone who beat me to this but isn't BS sort of the point of most movies; they're condensed bits of storytelling that, within certain parameters, we suspend belief for the sake of entertainment.
And, by the way, many a soldier or sailor has fought with his dead friends at his sides, before him, behind him and even under his feet.
Systematic Chaos
(8,601 posts)Dude's in some office or something and holding a copy of USA Today. On the back of the main section, you can see the weather map.
Almost the whole fucking map is blue and purple! Meaning the temperatures are all down near freezing!
Really? On the freaking 4th of July?
I couldn't get that oversight out of my head for the entire duration of the film, and I walked out just laughing at it.
gtar100
(4,192 posts)Hard to believe an advanced civilization wouldn't think about the possibility of incompatible environments, particularly bacterial and viral issues.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Why? Because it was written in the late 1800s, by the "father" of science fiction, H.G. Wells. You can't expect him to get everything right
gtar100
(4,192 posts)The chase through Chicago and the destruction of the towers went way over the top too many times. I can suspend my sense of reality for a good chase seen but this one defied common sense and basic laws of physics regarding torque in relation to human strength a few too many time. But the icing on the cake was Carly Spencer (Rosie Huntington-Whitely) going through the whole thing without messing up her hair. All the guys got dirty and hurt, she somehow managed to go through it looking like a supermodel the whole way through to the end. Started to feel more like satire than a surreal action adventure.
It was still fun to watch. But not being a fan, I still keep tripping up on why they just didn't include the word "Side" in the title; the way it is just sounds weird. Dark...what? Dark dark? Dark is a noun? What is that supposed to mean?
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Or they didn't want people to expect Pink Floyd's music in the movie. Probably the former, though. The latter would be utterly stupid to assume fans of the genre would expect... oh wait.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)and idiomatically.
"Come home before dark"
"Afraid of the dark"
"After dark"
Now the word dark looks weird to me.
darkdarkdarkdark
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Rhee and Obama's education CON job flick.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)WCGreen
(45,558 posts)Even though I was only 12 years old, I knew Ryan O'Neil nor Ali McGraw could act. I called bullshit as i was sobbing into the shoulder of my friend who was clearly distressed that I was doing that while screaming, in the hicuppy way, Why Why why that people who are, you know stuck in the middle of a gut wrenching moment of agony or sorrow....
polemic_realism
(66 posts)just awful, and from two decent actors... a shame.
Mostly the part where they are evading three souped up cars with automatic weapons, in a minivan on the freeway. He kicks open the back door and bullet rain in on them, but they are not hit. This while the "witty" banter continues....
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)zbdent
(35,392 posts)A movie poster ... Mel Gibson - "The Patriot"
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)The scene where the bus jumps the missing section of freeway, and the plot in general. It was a miracle (aka bullshit) the bus managed to keep up to speed, and once the bus explodes the villain has lost all hope of collecting the money that motivated him.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)AC duct and doesn't come out filthy and cut up by screws. Let alone that AC ducts are not that big, are not that well constructed, and don't start and end up at a wall where you can remove the screen and climb out.
progressoid
(49,999 posts)That drives him crazy.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Kaleva
(36,345 posts)Yet there's never so much as a slight breeze in them as people crawl around in the super-size-it ductwork.
If I recall correctly, a 6" round duct on the supply side is good for about 100 cfm. An 8 X 20 inch rectangular duct on the return side is good for about 1200 cfm.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)my cat black cat went through part of one and came out COMPLETELY BROWN
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)goes over a cliff, crashes, and the gas tank instantly explodes. Or when hitting a speeding car with a bullet makes the gas tank explode.
Any scene where the hero gets a straight flush, royal flush or 4 aces in the climactic hand of a high stakes poker game.
Gene Hackman's whole character in Crimson Tide. No way a wild card like that would EVER have been in command of a nuclear missile submarine (still like the movie, though).
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)and laughing minutes after they shoot someone. Or the cop laying down his weapon to go talk some sense into the crazy guy with a gun. Or two people pointing a gun at each other. (Why doesn't one of them just shoot?)
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Starts out on at the Georgetown Mall on M Street, then a foot race mails away through Farragut Square, only to finish on top of the Bonaventure Hotel on Los Angeles, all on horseback.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)Julia Roberts is walking around a college campus dressed almost like a hooker, getting information - in the background, none of the male college students passing by are staring/panting/leering or just plain politely sneaking a peek
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone. But, I will say that it was the best unintentionally funny movie I have ever seen. It made a couple of worst movie ever lists, but I have seen far far worse. Wicker Man with Nick Cage comes to mind, but that was before I saw it sped up with a good sound track, anyway. The ending was a WTF, bummer.
rightwinghunter666
(12 posts)Sorry you post called for a Mystery Science Theater 3000 reference.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I think of that every once and a while and want to use it. But, my daughter that I would use it on is terrified of snakes. When she was little I couldn't even talk about them and she wouldn't even look at pictures. I don't know where it came from, but I won't scare her out of her wits. She is better now, I got her to be able to look at pictures and hear the word without going nuts.
rationalcalgarian
(295 posts)Feeling a little uncomfortable taking on a sacred cow like the Great Escape. It's one of my all-time favourites, too. But....... somethings in this movie just make me cringe.
1) American involvement
Sorry, there were no Americans involved in the actual "great escape", at least nowhere near the extent portrayed in this movie. Stalag III was a Luftwaffe prisoner of war camp for British and Commonwealth air force officers and crew. (That means there were no Russians, either, as shown in the first fifteen minutes of the movie.)
2) Even if there was American involvement:
NO WAY the Germans are going to allow a Fourth of July celebration, complete with jailhouse hooch, to be announced with an explosion in a wastecan. That explosion goes off, the machine guns in the guard towers open up!
Secondly, what year was this Fourth of July celebration? The actual "great escape" took place on the night of 24 March, 1944. Does this mean the completion of the tunnel took another eight months?
3) Captain Hilts (Steve McQueen) makes a flying knockdown of a prison guard about to open up with his Schmeisser on poor Lt. Ives as he tries to climb the barbed wire fence. Another guard takes the shot and kills Ives, of course. Hilts approaches Roger and says, "What information do you need? I'm making a break tonight." whereupon I thrown popcorn at the screen and say "Wrong! You just assaulted a German prison guard! You're spending the next six months in the cooler, if you're lucky and they don't shoot you, too!"
4) Lt. Sedgewick (James Coburn) has made his escape and is sitting at a cafe in a French city. He is shown reading a French newspaper entitled "La Liberation".
Really? Occupying German forces are going to allow a Free French newspaper to be published and sold on the streets?
Am I getting too nitpicky? Fine, I won't comment on Hilts' attempted escape on the stolen German motorcycle (a British Triumph 650) because it's actually pretty good and a lot of fun to watch. Never happened but it's pretty cool. BTW, a bit of trivia about that escape: Hilts acquires the German motorcycle by stringing wire across the road and causing the motorcycle rider to wipe out. You all remember that, right? But do you know the name of the actor that rode that motorcycle and performed the stunt?
It was Steve McQueen.
Entertaining thread, by the way!
kwassa
(23,340 posts)clever dialogue, but mostly liberal masturbatory political fantasies, much like West Wing.
A major cable network anchor played by Jeff Daniels stands up, and single-handedly brings down the tea party. Yeah, right.
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)Oh, and Armageddon.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)(You can tell it's bad because it has an exclamation point in the title.) It stars Tom Wopat (Luke Duke in Dukes of Hazzard). A little town in Arizona suffers repeated hits from meteorites, some in the daytime, some at night (even though the Earth is facing a different direction), and the heroes call their friend who runs a PLANETARIUM to ask if more meteors are coming. Does he say, "Dude, I work at a planetarium. We don't even have windows." No, of course not. He warns them to take cover. They do . . . in an old mine . . . after clearing the entrance from a cave-in caused by a meteorite strike. (People! Are you SURE that's where you wanna take cover?)
rightwinghunter666
(12 posts)After Daniel gets hurts from the illegal hit. You know the part where Mr. Miyagi performs some type of bone or muscle healing technique so Daniel could keep competing. I guess Mr. Miyagi miss his calling as a Chiropractor.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)That whole "Screw Paris, Preppie" ans "Love means never having to say you're sorry" thing opened the doors for "You...COMPLETE...me" and the rest of the wretched "Jerry McGuire" script.
begin_within
(21,551 posts)No way in hell are cats going to stick around and watch a gunfight. At the first shot the cats would head for the hills and come back about 2 hours after it was all over with.
Frannyfannypack
(7 posts)Pick any scene
tomp
(9,512 posts)....without becoming unconscious. One good punch can knock out a professional boxer, yet these guys take endless blows (and not glancing ones) and continue fighting.
Angleae
(4,493 posts)They usually get it quite wrong.