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DFW

(54,445 posts)
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:17 AM Jun 2012

Warning if you're traveling in Europe, especially Belgium

This used to be a favorite tactic of Moroccan thieves a few years ago, and yesterday a group of Romanians tried it on me, so apparently it's in fashion again.

This usually happens when you are carrying a bag or two, and are alone. There are usually three of them, but sometimes two. You may or may not feel a tap on your shoulder. Someone comes up to you, asks if you understand English, and then tells you that you have a big glop of goo on your shoulder or back. They're not lying. Either that person or an accomplice put it there. The normal reaction is to put your stuff down, take off your jacket and look. That's when their accomplice takes off with your stuff. It's always done in a crowded street or public transportation, like a metro (me yesterday), tram or bus.

When it happened to me yesterday, I knew what was happening, so I calmly thanked the thieves for their telling me about my jacket and didn't budge. They got off at the next tram strop el rápido. A British colleague who was not aware of how this worked got his briefcase with all his work stuff and his small suitcase stolen in Brussels in this same fashion a couople of years ago.

So, if, you're in Europe and someone tries to be "friendly" and tell you that you have some glop on your back or shoulder, they're probably right. Just thank them and then ignore them. Cleaning your jacket or replacing it is a LOT cheaper and less time-consuming that replacing everything else you have with you.

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marzipanni

(6,011 posts)
2. Clever bastards
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:01 AM
Jun 2012

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It would be fun to say, as they left the metro car, "You have egg on your face!". They most likely wouldn't be familiar with that colloquialism and would be puzzled.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
5. I just said "multsumesc"
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:35 AM
Jun 2012

That was enough for them to quit bothering me and get off quickly at the next stop.

I tried to post the original, but the Romanian letter didn't post. Maybe here? Mulţumesc.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
7. I have Romanian-speaking friends. I'll ask the equivalent. Good idea!
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:39 AM
Jun 2012

I know some rudimentary Romanian, but not enough to come out with that one on the spur of the moment.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. I've encountered scam artists and thieves in many European cities
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:42 AM
Jun 2012

They often prey on tourists because the local population doesn't care much if the tourists are fleeced a bit. Just so long as it doesn't start affecting the tourist dollars rolling in, nobody seems to mind much. If telling them to fuck off doesn't work (yes I use those exact words), the best defense against them is usually to just start making a ruckus. Once you start making noise, they disperse pretty quickly as they don't want to tangle with local law enforcement.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
13. They disperse pretty quickly, too, if you address them in their own language
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jun 2012

Not too many average tourists (I'm there for work every week, not exactly a tourist) speak Moroccan dialects of Arabic (I don't) or Romanian (I do a little). I speak the major languages of Belgium (French and Flemish) well, but the thieves usually don't.

DFW

(54,445 posts)
16. Most are, agreed, but
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jun 2012

Someone who is obviously NOT Romanian telling a Romanian off in Romanian throws them off balance pretty effectively.

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
9. I'm aware of this happening in the US, as well...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:21 AM
Jun 2012

There are frequently "helpful" individuals on the trains to the airport (MARTA, in Atlanta most recently) where "helpful" passengers offer to hold a bag in their seat for the rider ladened with a couple of bags. Yeah, right. Sometimes they even try to infer (in an authoritative manner) that bags are not allowed on the seat beside you.

Not sure I've seen anyone try the "muck" on the back of the jacket trick, though. But the point is that these little thievery scams are not so rare.

Don't let your bags out of your hands, is always the best advice in public places--no matter what.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
10. In DC, they're actually not allowed on the seat next to you on WMATA(1), VRE or MARC vehicles.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 08:46 AM
Jun 2012

which is inconvenient because there's not really any other place to put them except in the aisle, in your lap or under the seat...and the last two won't work with a normal-sized suitcase. Transit cops will fine you for the aisle too if it's impassable or deemed to be an obstruction. (more often on buses) I guess if you're concerned about valuables, the risk of a $50 fine and being booted out of the transit system might be worth it though; it's not like you can't almost immediately reenter.

1-WMATA, Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority: runs Metro, Metrobus and DC Circulator.

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
11. why don't the business traveler crowd pitch a fit?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:04 AM
Jun 2012

Everyone rides Metro to National (no, I'll NEVER said Reagan) Airport. So what are they supposed to do with bags?

Traveling in Europe is so much nicer.. They seem to actually give a damn about serving the needs of the rider.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. Why isn't the WMATA more reponsiove to actual passenger needs?
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:13 AM
Jun 2012

I understand you can't eat on the subway,either!

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
14. I rely on the bus here in Tucson and see LOTS of self-important types...
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jun 2012

.
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... hog up a three-passenger bencb seat by placing their laptop on one seat and
their little backpack on another. The transit companies actually ARE looking out
for the needs of their riders. Those seats aren't luggage racks for inanimate
objects -- they're for human beings to sit on. On a plane, you would be charged
full-fare for a guaranteed 'suitcase seat'.
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Almost guaranteed? The offender on the bus will be wearing headphones/earbuds
and will pretend not to notice you (or the pregant woman, etc.).
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I simply announce my intention to sit down and slowly lower my not-insubstantial
ass towards the offending object.
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You'd be surprised at the RAPIDITY in which said self-important person finds an
alternative resting spot for their gear.
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Extra bonus points if I can then get up and offer my seat to the pregnant woman.
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bikebloke

(5,260 posts)
17. Same ruse in Argentina.
Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

Down there it's bird shit. I've heard of it in other places, too. It hasn't happened to me, though.

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