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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:17 PM Jul 2020

The hottest of hot takes: "Irregardless"

I know this is a bit of a hot take, but I'm going to make it anyway.

I think we need to give "irregardless" a bit of its due.

Now, hear me out.

No, first and foremost, "irregardless" is *not* an actual word. So let's make that clear from the get-go.

However, I will say this. Strictly as a non-word, "irregardless" flows off the tongue wonderfully. It contains the right combination of letters and sounds that give it an almost musical-like quality.

Contrast that with "regardless" and "irrespective," both of which *are* proper words. They're clunky. They're abrupt. They're jagged. Neither are very much fun at all to say, regardless and irrespective of the fact that they actually mean what they are intended to mean.

And that's why "irregardless" is so tempting to use over its proper and standard counterparts. When you say "irregardless," you are almost tempted to give a little flourish of the hand while saying it just as a matter of emphasis. And neither "regardless" nor "irrespective" give you any desire whatsoever to do that.

Try it.

"Irregardless." **Flourish of hand**

Fun, right?

So even though "irregardless" has been savagely vilified as a non-word--not unlike how Pluto has become vilified as a non-planet in recent years--there's a certain rationale behind its use that I can understand and with which I can sympathize. And while I don't support it being entered into lexicon as a proper word, perhaps it should be given some sort of semi-formal status. A "Word Emeritus," perhaps?

But, on the other hand, "A whole nother"?

Now that shit's just fucking moronic sophistry.

Related story:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jul/06/is-irregardless-a-real-word-dictionary?fbclid=IwAR0IwSkxpDDFpYp62wvwdmdFDqZML7pv6kweRTgzPGpafcc-oehLCz14xUk

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The hottest of hot takes: "Irregardless" (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2020 OP
Nope. Can't deal. The "word" gives me hives. JenniferJuniper Jul 2020 #1
it's a pointless, stupid word, but it's a word. people have used it for ages. unblock Jul 2020 #2
Very popular in the military. tazkcmo Jul 2020 #3
It's right up there with the way soldiers in movies hammer the word 'SIR!'. Aristus Jul 2020 #7
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #4
Nope it's an ugly meaningless noise. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #5
NEVER!!! 3catwoman3 Jul 2020 #6
Like "I could care less", it logically means the opposite of how it's used. Ron Obvious Jul 2020 #8
Sorry. Can't deal with it. Different Drummer Jul 2020 #9

unblock

(52,328 posts)
2. it's a pointless, stupid word, but it's a word. people have used it for ages.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

i agree with the merriam-webster analysis. being a "word" isn't based on it being useful or non-redundant or intrinsically logical.

being a word is based on usage, and "irregardless" meets the standard. enough people use it, and have used it for a long, long time.

so it's a word, even if it doesn't make sense from an etymological perspective.



there are lots of words that might provoke similar reactions. "aks", meaning "ask", is a word. similarly, it's been used for ages and enough people continue to use it, so it's a word. deal with it.



now, which words one might choose to use in which context, that's an entirely different matter.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
7. It's right up there with the way soldiers in movies hammer the word 'SIR!'.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jul 2020

Every thing they say, no matter how important or inconsequential, no matter how serious the situation, or how fraught the need for haste and simplicity, if an enlisted man or a junior officer is speaking to a superior officer, they hammer out "SIR!" as if they were undergoing inspection in Basic Training.

When I was in, soldiers usually forged a close bond with their officers that obviated the need for such formality. We always addressed them as per regulations as 'sir'. But it was inflected no differently than if we had called them 'buddy' or pal'.

I remember in "Die Hard 2", some soldier told his commander "Pentagon briefing room on the phone, SIR!". Now, his commander is someone he had likely worked with for a couple of years. But that snappy Hollywood "SIR" was still there.

In Saving Private Ryan, an infantryman under fire on the beach is imploring Tom Hanks to lead them out of harm's way: "What do we do now? SIR!!!"

Any seasoned soldier can only roll his or her eyes...

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