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Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:29 PM Jun 2012

So what's the fine for setting up traps to remove wildlife?

I was told by animal control that homeowners are not allowed to remove wildlife without a permit, and there's a fine if you do. Anyone have experience with this?

Is there a limit on what kind of animals can be removed?

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So what's the fine for setting up traps to remove wildlife? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 OP
This may be considered harsh by some, but they are just shot by the homeowner where I live. Kaleva Jun 2012 #1
Obviously there may be different rules for different States, Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #2
Not many rats here. It's coyotes, skunks and raccoons. Kaleva Jun 2012 #4
I had a pest control company not only remove the rats, but kill them. RebelOne Jun 2012 #18
From what I understand about the Fish, Game ... Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #19
What are we talking here? nolabear Jun 2012 #3
Best to check with local ordinances. Kaleva Jun 2012 #5
City and County ordinances? Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #7
Some of the larger towns where I live have ordinances against shooting guns within the limits. Kaleva Jun 2012 #8
Not always. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #9
Small mammals. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #6
Depends on the state. In most places there isn't one if it is trap & release. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #10
In Florida. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #11
I'm not familiar with Florida laws on the subject. As for rabbits, I have a lot of experience. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #12
I've only had one show an incredible fearlessness of humans. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #13
a friend's dog had managed to escape Maine-ah Jun 2012 #14
It's not my trap and fortunately, it's a hav-a-heart type. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #15
Have you contacted your local state game commisson? LynneSin Jun 2012 #16
Fish, Game and Wildlife will probably resolve this matter. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #17

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
2. Obviously there may be different rules for different States,
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jun 2012

and certainly, different animals. I doubt anyone will be concerned about the removal of rats.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
18. I had a pest control company not only remove the rats, but kill them.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jun 2012

My exterminator killed 17 rats in and under my house. I love animals, but when it comes to rats invading me, they sign their death warrant.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
19. From what I understand about the Fish, Game ...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jun 2012

You can remove nuisance animals only by hiring animal removal firms which are licensed.

Which doesn't explain why there are so many traps available to purchase at the hardware stores.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
3. What are we talking here?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jun 2012

Raccoon? Deer? Coyote? Bear?

I expect it varies a lot from state to state but in general killing wildlife of any kind is frowned on because of the potential for wounding and having a wounded, frightened animal running around (I'm leaving out personal feelings about it). It also varies from community to community. What's blind-eyed in the counry can get you in major trouble in the burbs.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
7. City and County ordinances?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:14 PM
Jun 2012

If they don't blink for fraud and conspiracy, I don't think they'll give a hoot about animals. LOL!

Kaleva

(36,333 posts)
8. Some of the larger towns where I live have ordinances against shooting guns within the limits.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:17 PM
Jun 2012

If you live within a city, their ordinances will take precedence over the county ordinances.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
9. Not always.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jun 2012

Trust me, Kaleva, in a Republican controlled area it's whatever they can get away with. County encroaches into the City and the City encroaches into the County. The only thing that tips you off to why these things happen, are the social relationships. (Beware the consensus builders)

Like I said, it's government by whatever they can get away with.

That's why State and Federal laws are the best option, if they have enforcement powers.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
6. Small mammals.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jun 2012

The only two nuisance animals around here are armadillos and rats. Raccoons occasionally.

From my observation racoons and rabbits are roamers. They don't stay in one place. Possums do stay in one place; and armadillos will stick around if you let them.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
10. Depends on the state. In most places there isn't one if it is trap & release.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
Jun 2012

Feral cats usually qualify for wildlife, but such traps are usually used for spay/neuter and release programs. They're tough to domesticate. My kittens are from a feral mother who came inside to deliver and both still show some signs of being a bit wild. Groundhogs, raccoons, and skunks are generally fair game, but the latter two are high rabies risks. I'd bypass "animal control" and call your municipality's office directly to get the specifics on your state and local regulations.

I've got a hermaphrodite rabbit with no instincts other than to groom. I took him in as a small kit because he had no fear of humans, dogs, cats, or anything else. He's almost six now and a major cuddle, but he wouldn't have survived the night without my actions. It's totally illegal in my state but it was ethical. The vet felt the same way and treated the bite on his side despite the law (mother tried to kill him). Sometimes you just have to break the law.

Now that said, what state are you in and what critter are you trying to trap?


Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
11. In Florida.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jun 2012

I'm not trying to trap any. It's my neighbor. If he's trying to collect armadillos or rats to release somewhere else, I would be okay with that. But he doesn't have a good heart where it comes to my interest.

My concern is, there is a baby rabbit I have seen around and they die if they don't connect with their mother at least once a day. You see, they need to eat their mother's stools in order to get digestive enzymes in their stomachs. So you remove the mother too early, and the baby will die.

We don't have too many rabbits. You see them more readily around spring when they're having kits and have to cover lots of ground. They keep away from their their kits most of the time to keep them safe from predators.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
12. I'm not familiar with Florida laws on the subject. As for rabbits, I have a lot of experience.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jun 2012

As I mentioned, we have one (cottontail). They're EVERYWHERE around here. The mothers feed them at night, and yes, when they move from milk to solid food it is the bunny berries that the kits eat first. Rabbits have a two pass digestive system. The first pass breaks down the fibers and the second allows them to take in the nutrients.

My wife has pictures in her camera (haven't uploaded them yet) of a kit we had out a week ago. The neighbor's cat (same one that shits in my garden) is proficient at rabbit hunting. It got all of the kits but one from a warren in my next door neighbor's yard. I took it out and held it for a while as they were digging a hole ten feet away and transferring the fur from the first to the second. It was tiny and obviously still nursing. I'll recognize it - there was a white stripe on it's forehead. I really hope it made it. And touching them does NOT make the mother abandon them. That's a myth.

If the kit is old enough to eat solid food, you can take it in and feed it. Don't give it much spinach (too much iron), but kale and any greens but iceburg lettuce are good. They also need timothy hay. Even though most "pellets" are made of timothy hay you still need to give them the real deal once in a while. And the "they don't need water" thing is bullshit. They drink from a bowl and they self potty train. Once you take it in, you can't let it back out. It's a domestic pet at that point but they make excellent pets. Just arm yourself with a lot of Neosporin. You will get scratched. I've never been bitten by one but they all kick.

Baitball Blogger

(46,757 posts)
13. I've only had one show an incredible fearlessness of humans.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jun 2012

We even took a couple of naps out on the lawn. Well, I was pretending to nap. The little guy was so lonely. You could tell he's always on such high alert that he didn't get much sleep. His body was quivering like it was the first time it got a chance to get into a REM state.

I try not to interfere too much because I fear I do more harm than good. We don't have that many around the neighborhood because of loss of habitat. When I do get one around, I try to feed him in the same spot. I buy those Kayte healthy bits. They really love those. And sometimes I buy the snack treat. They don't eat the timothy hay because it's dead and they have an entire yard to feed off in my backyard.

Except, this feeding cycle only works for about ten days. Predators catch on to the routine. I once saw a hawk move in just as I was putting the food down. I feed them, they eat them. And of course, putting out too much attracts raccoons and possums so I don't leave too much out there.

Maine-ah

(9,902 posts)
14. a friend's dog had managed to escape
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jun 2012

one afternoon. The dog was gone for a week. He got his leg stuck in trap, and broke it, and the poor dog was stuck in the woods, no food, no water.

If you're going to trap, do it legally and humanely, or find someone who does.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
16. Have you contacted your local state game commisson?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:41 PM
Jun 2012

I think the 'no trapping' is more for the protection of the home owner and not the wildlife since most home owners don't have a clue how to handle wild life in general.

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