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Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:52 AM May 2020

There was something wrong with the face masks we've been wearing..Addendum...

For the last six weeks. Management went through the clinic today and quietly collected all the boxes of a certain face mask manufacturer we've been using. We have several brands and it was just this one brand they collected. Some of us kept noticing a chemical smell when we put them on, although most of us continued to wear them. Rumors are it was a pesticide. I do not have confirmation, though.

Just effing great.

A coworker sent me a message and said the masks were manufactured with ethylene oxide, a carcinogen.

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Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
4. Who knows?
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:15 AM
May 2020

We should have listened to our guts. Several of my coworkers complained that the masks were making their faces break-out in a weird rash. I only got one little sore under my bottom lip, barely noticeable, but I sure did think they smelled bad, kind of a petroleum smell. I haven't seen anything about it online, although there are several stories concerning masks being shipped out with unacceptable levels of bacteria.
I guess we'll know if there is a future cluster of lymphoma among my coworkers at the clinic.

cayugafalls

(5,641 posts)
5. I'm so sorry. You all deserve better.
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:19 AM
May 2020

This is all a clusterf**k.

I hope you and all your coworkers are ok.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
6. Oh, I'm not going to worry about it, at least not now.
Sat May 23, 2020, 02:21 AM
May 2020

I'll wait until we know more. Thanks for your supportive thoughts. though.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
12. No, it happened just a couple of hours before I left.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:15 PM
May 2020

The union will investigate. I'm sure we'll know more next week.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
14. I know the manufacturer is located in China and I'm not sure how we ended up with them.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

For all I know, they were donated.

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
9. Were these KN95 masks?
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:03 AM
May 2020

I am sorry this is happening. It is unforgivable.

My sister is an ER nurse in Atlanta, currently ill (at home) with COVID-19, though with less severe symptoms (thank God)-- since May 04. While she is not hospitalized and has no respiratory symptoms she has debilitating headaches and classic "viral syndrome," so to say "mild" symptoms seem very much an underestimate.

For months major Atlanta hospitals have had PPE shortages and offered little guidance in how to safely reuse PPE. They, in fact, expected face shields to be "shared"... (unbelievable). None of my colleagues across the country have shared anything but horror stories in this regard.

Any HCW or even minimally intelligent or educated American that votes for Trump ought to be lining up for a straight jacket.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
13. No, these were level-2 surgical and may have been donated, I don't know.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:21 PM
May 2020

Gosh, so sorry about your sister. Nothing bothers me more than the front-line workers getting sick. Our clinic is not "hot," so supposedly we aren't seeing COVID, although I'm sure we've had some slip through who were asymptomatic.

My thoughts will be with your sis, hlthe2b.

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
17. thanks, Laffy Kat. I call her multiple times a day but..
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:38 PM
May 2020

it is very worrisome especially from 1200 miles away.

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
18. I'd feel the same way if it was my sister.
Sat May 23, 2020, 01:51 PM
May 2020

We live across the country from each other and it's hard. At least you know at this point she's going to recover even though it may take a while. You just hate to know what they're through. though.

hlthe2b

(102,328 posts)
10. After meeting with Trump, Medline wants FDA approval to sterilize N95 masks with ethylene oxide.
Sat May 23, 2020, 09:17 AM
May 2020
After meeting with Trump, Medline wants FDA approval to sterilize N95 masks with ethylene oxide. Two other federal agencies are against it, citing cancer risks for health care workers.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/environment/ct-trump-medline-masks-ethlyene-oxide-cancer-20200429-vyutifcyhvekljpn4rqxkpcl3i-story.html

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
16. These were surgical masks, though, not N95. I dunno.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:29 PM
May 2020

These are not reusable, we each go through one or two a day.

Fla Dem

(23,723 posts)
11. Didn't find anything saying masks were manufactured with ethylene oxide, but ..........
Sat May 23, 2020, 10:23 AM
May 2020

Didn't find anything saying masks were manufactured with ethylene oxide, but using it as a sterilizing agent to reuse masks has caused controversy. In either case, glad your employer got rid of them and hope you all do not suffer ill effects.


With new controls in place, Medline again using ethylene oxide at Waukegan plant

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Besides its usual business of sterilizing surgical packs used by health care professionals, the company is working with the federal Food and Drug Administration for approval to reprocess N95 respirators and other face masks using ethylene oxide, Greenberg said.

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https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20200330/with-new-controls-in-place-medline-again-using-ethylene-oxide-at-waukegan-plant



After meeting with Trump, Medline wants FDA approval to sterilize N95 masks with ethylene oxide. Two other federal agencies are against it, citing cancer risks for health care workers.

Summoned to the White House last month with other medical suppliers responding to the severe shortage of protective gear for health care workers, Medline Industries CEO Charlie Mills announced the company had good news.

Northfield-based Medline already was reprocessing 100,000 masks a day used by doctors and nurses on the front lines of the COVID-19 pandemic, Mills told President Donald Trump and others in the Cabinet Room.

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/environment/ct-trump-medline-masks-ethlyene-oxide-cancer-20200429-vyutifcyhvekljpn4rqxkpcl3i-story.html


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/environment/ct-trump-medline-masks-ethlyene-oxide-cancer-20200429-vyutifcyhvekljpn4rqxkpcl3i-story.html

Laffy Kat

(16,386 posts)
15. I've been researching, too, and can't find a reference so far.
Sat May 23, 2020, 12:27 PM
May 2020

They were level-2 surgical. There have been instances of masks being tainted with bacteria and insects, though. I'm not sure I want to know anything else, LOL. Seriously, I'm not all that worried about it. Others are going through a lot worse.

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