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The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:32 PM May 2020

Advertisement Still Works After Seventy Years ---

I was just now trolling through a site of vintage ephemera, photographs, illustrations, advertisements and such, and I came upon this....



It called to mind there was some of this stuff in the house, and I hunted up a hot dog out of the fridge, boiled it and wrapped it in some bread with a slather of relish and a lot of this yellow mustard. Almost certainly would not have done that had I not seen this odd little thing.

It was apparently an advertising mascot started up in the late thirties, that persisted into the early fifties.

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Advertisement Still Works After Seventy Years --- (Original Post) The Magistrate May 2020 OP
I have some French's mustard in my fridge. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #1
Ours Is More Recent As Well, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #2
That's very creative text. In the late 1950s even the dialogue in the Road Runner comics I read abqtommy May 2020 #3
Rhythm And Rhyme Sticks In The Mind, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #6
Well that's fine anytime! N-e-s-t-l-e-s, Nestles makes the very best....chock-lat! Then there's abqtommy May 2020 #10
"Pepsi-Cola hits the spot!" malthaussen May 2020 #13
"My bologna has a first name. It's O- S- C- A- R..." LudwigPastorius May 2020 #17
Mein bratwurst has a first name, it's F.R.I.T.Z. eppur_se_muova May 2020 #20
LOL LudwigPastorius May 2020 #22
Two In Particular Have Survived, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #31
The version I remember includes "Buy it at your local store; Costs a nickle not a penny more!" Gidney N Cloyd May 2020 #47
anyone who sees a speck of difference between art and design is the opposite of mr magoo. mopinko May 2020 #4
I Quite Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #7
never forget that andy warhol started out as an adman. mopinko May 2020 #9
I Did Not Know That, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #32
at the warhol museum mopinko May 2020 #45
lol yep OriginalGeek May 2020 #14
i watched the movie "yesterday " the other day mopinko May 2020 #19
I once read a photo-spread about the Italian School of design, from autos to telephones and abqtommy May 2020 #21
Oh lordy. I do remember those little glass jars. trof May 2020 #5
True, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #8
Believe it or not, they still make the 6 oz glass jar jmowreader May 2020 #48
Wonder Where They Sell Them, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #49
I know you can get them on Amazon jmowreader May 2020 #51
Yuk! Once a Gulden's Girl, always a Gulden's Girl! Totally Tunsie May 2020 #11
My Own Holy Grail Of Mustards, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #25
I bought some for my brother just last week Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #12
That Was Nice Of You, Mem'Sahib The Magistrate May 2020 #26
I've been trying to do that since it's impossible to know what you'll find at the store. Rhiannon12866 May 2020 #36
I've done that. LudwigPastorius May 2020 #15
The Stuff Does Work, Sir, No Question The Magistrate May 2020 #27
Those cartoonish figures always scare me TrogL May 2020 #16
Yep, there's an frightening element of insanity or religious zeal there. LudwigPastorius May 2020 #18
It Was The Yellow Jar, Sir, Not The Mascot The Magistrate May 2020 #28
The dude's expression gives me pause, though. kairos12 May 2020 #23
I Agree, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #29
Mustard is among the greatest condiments ever created IronLionZion May 2020 #24
That, Sir, Is a Lapse In Taste I Am Happy To Forgive Him For The Magistrate May 2020 #30
Here's everything you need to know about mustard IronLionZion May 2020 #33
Interesting Read, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #39
I too regret that mustard is no longer a de facto condiment musette_sf May 2020 #46
One Packet Mustard, Ma'am, One Packet Sweet and Sour, One Packet Soy Sauce The Magistrate May 2020 #50
you know it musette_sf May 2020 #53
French's yellow mustard is the best! NurseJackie May 2020 #34
It Certainly Has Its Points, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #40
For the longest time I was on a hot/sweet mustard kick. denbot May 2020 #35
That Looks Like Quite A Set-Up, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #41
I hear ya. denbot May 2020 #43
The only thing French about it is the name! uriel1972 May 2020 #37
True, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #42
Down The Mustard Rabbit-Hole, My Friends The Magistrate May 2020 #38
Heinz guy Devilsun May 2020 #44
Heinz Does Do a Mustard, Doesn't It, Sir The Magistrate May 2020 #52

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,793 posts)
1. I have some French's mustard in my fridge.
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:35 PM
May 2020

It's been there for awhile but probably not for 70 years, I hope, though mustard does keep for quite a long time.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
2. Ours Is More Recent As Well, Ma'am
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:39 PM
May 2020

But is the same brand. One of those names from childhood, like Campbell's for soup. Broadcast corned beef hash is, alas, long gone....

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. That's very creative text. In the late 1950s even the dialogue in the Road Runner comics I read
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:47 PM
May 2020

were written in rhyme. Maybe that has always been a "thing"...

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
10. Well that's fine anytime! N-e-s-t-l-e-s, Nestles makes the very best....chock-lat! Then there's
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:33 PM
May 2020

the Brylcreem jingle. You're right again, as usual!

malthaussen

(17,215 posts)
13. "Pepsi-Cola hits the spot!"
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:32 AM
May 2020

"Twelve full ounces, that's a lot!
Twice as much for a nickle, too!
Pepsi-Cola is the drink for you!"

-- Mal

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
17. "My bologna has a first name. It's O- S- C- A- R..."
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:02 PM
May 2020

The brain leeches and earworms are tenacious and long-lived.

eppur_se_muova

(36,279 posts)
20. Mein bratwurst has a first name, it's F.R.I.T.Z.
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:14 PM
May 2020


Mein bratwurst has a second name, it's
S.C.H.N.A.C.K.E.N.P.F.E.F.F.E.R.H.A.U.S.E.N.

Matt Groening has a few earworms.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
31. Two In Particular Have Survived, Sir
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:55 PM
May 2020

'You'll wonder where the yellow went, when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent'

'Plop, plop, fizz, fizz --- oh what a relief it is!'

These things were concocted by hard-eyed professionals who knew exactly what they were doing and how to get it done.

mopinko

(70,177 posts)
4. anyone who sees a speck of difference between art and design is the opposite of mr magoo.
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:53 PM
May 2020

having done plenty of both, i can tell you that design is the harder job.

artist make what they make, and even if it never connects to another soul, if the artist is satisfied, it's a success.

design is a process that involves many, and if it doesnt connect w the majority, it fails.

much, much heavier lift.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
7. I Quite Agree, Ma'am
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:30 PM
May 2020

Advertising is a creative process with measurable results.

There is a fascinating book, 'Satisfaction Guaranteed --- The Making of the American Mass Market' by Ms. Susan Strasser, which sets forth early mass marketing campaigns, and shows among other things how offers of premiums and discounts in advertisements were used to judge by response rate how effective the advertisements were.

mopinko

(70,177 posts)
45. at the warhol museum
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:01 AM
May 2020

they have all his files from those day.
when he would finish a project, he would scoop up all the papers on it, and toss them in a box.
i dont know how many of those they have even opened, but i imagine it must be a bit like that scene in raiders of the lost arc where the light melts the nazis face.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
14. lol yep
Thu May 14, 2020, 11:46 AM
May 2020

it's why I don't work as an artist for a living. I'm happy with my art projects and and nobody else has to be. I have nothing but respect for artists who can also design. I sure couldn't ever do it. I just don't have the temperament for it. I never again have to hear "Oh this is great! Can you change this?" Nope. I can not. I wish I could have been a paid artist because I love to draw but I just can't draw for other people and now I'm too old to change.

mopinko

(70,177 posts)
19. i watched the movie "yesterday " the other day
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:22 PM
May 2020

and on the surface it is about a guy who finds out that no one remembers the beatles. so he figures fuck it. if they cant tell imma just say i wrote these songs.
it is such a sly take on creativity and criticism ever.
best scene is when a big music honcho insists he must change jude to dude because no one understands jude.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
21. I once read a photo-spread about the Italian School of design, from autos to telephones and
Thu May 14, 2020, 01:21 PM
May 2020

toasters. It was amazing and I totally agree with you.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
8. True, Sir
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:32 PM
May 2020

I would be surprised if they still make them. Ours is of course in a plastic squeeze bottle. I often like various brown mustards, hotter ones, but sometimes do get a hankering for that old bright yella stuff.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
49. Wonder Where They Sell Them, Sir
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:10 PM
May 2020

Does it actually get to stores, or is it an on-line specialty item?

I miss the little 6 1/2 ounce bottkles of Coca-Cola in the green glass, myself....

jmowreader

(50,561 posts)
51. I know you can get them on Amazon
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:15 PM
May 2020

As to which stores you can get them in...not a clue. I'm a Gulden's kinda guy myself.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
11. Yuk! Once a Gulden's Girl, always a Gulden's Girl!
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:24 AM
May 2020

But I'll occasionally flirt with a Grey Poupon...shhhhhhh.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
25. My Own Holy Grail Of Mustards, Ma'am
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:16 PM
May 2020

Is the brown mustard they used at the hot dog counter at the zoo when I was young. The nearest I have found is Dusseldorf style. I do like Gulden's though, it has a nice bite to it.

Rhiannon12866

(205,731 posts)
12. I bought some for my brother just last week
Thu May 14, 2020, 05:17 AM
May 2020

He likes it on his sandwiches and the store was out the week before - I almost got an extra one when I got groceries this week, just in case the store was going to be out of it again.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
26. That Was Nice Of You, Mem'Sahib
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:22 PM
May 2020

Might have been wise to get the second. 'Soviet instincts' are good to have and act on at present. I do not mean hoarding, but keeping in mind what you might need or want badly, and getting it if you see it's available on the shelves, even if it wasn't on your immediate list when you went into the store.

Rhiannon12866

(205,731 posts)
36. I've been trying to do that since it's impossible to know what you'll find at the store.
Fri May 15, 2020, 02:32 AM
May 2020

I found canned tuna this week when they were out before, picked up mustard and mayo for my brother last week since they were out the week before, and cheese for myself since there was almost none last week - and I live in a "dairy state!" These sure are crazy times, I'm regretting not getting Kleenex for myself since there were some (among the few paper products on otherwise bare shelves) since that was the one thing my brother requested - he'd been to another store earlier in the week and found none.

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
15. I've done that.
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:00 PM
May 2020

As much as I like to think I am aware of, and thus immune to, the manipulation of Madison Avenue, an ad on the radio will pierce my armor as I'm driving to work and I'll think, "Hmm...it's been a while since I've had a _______. That would be tasty".

Later that evening, Om Nom Nom!

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
27. The Stuff Does Work, Sir, No Question
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

It's kind of like watching an old movie, and seeing everybody lighting up a cigarette....

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
16. Those cartoonish figures always scare me
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:00 PM
May 2020

The huge screaming eyes, the massive mouth full of tombstone teeth, oversized clothing...

Reminds me of Robert Crumb and his damn boots.

LudwigPastorius

(9,164 posts)
18. Yep, there's an frightening element of insanity or religious zeal there.
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:05 PM
May 2020

Hot Dan really likes his mustard, and he'd be willing to kill you and your whole family to get it.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
28. It Was The Yellow Jar, Sir, Not The Mascot
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:27 PM
May 2020

I agree that 'Hot Dan' is not a good look at all.

Don't mind Mr. Crumb's boots, though.

I had a job in a bookstore shortly after I left home where we sold 'Zap Comics' surreptitiously --- they were in a drawer under the cash station, and a customer had to ask....

IronLionZion

(45,491 posts)
24. Mustard is among the greatest condiments ever created
Thu May 14, 2020, 02:57 PM
May 2020

and I keep several varieties at home. I put some strong Irish mustard on my sandwich today for lunch. French's is great for hot dogs.

America's last real president likes mustard on his burger.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
30. That, Sir, Is a Lapse In Taste I Am Happy To Forgive Him For
Thu May 14, 2020, 04:48 PM
May 2020

Otherwise I quite agree about the value of mustard as a condiment. Over the years I have noticed that Chinese take-out seems to have slacked off including packets of hot mustard with egg rolls, and it is a shame. I have taken to making my own, with dry mustard and a little bit of water and vinegar. Brings tears to the eyes when gotten just right.

IronLionZion

(45,491 posts)
33. Here's everything you need to know about mustard
Thu May 14, 2020, 06:04 PM
May 2020
https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/205188/ketchup-and-mustard-everything-you-never-knew-about-americas-favorite-condiments/

It's been used around the world for thousands of years but wasn't popular in the US until French's made their mild yellow version in 1904.

And the Chinese hot mustard is available in many Asian markets and online if you want to buy it.

musette_sf

(10,204 posts)
46. I too regret that mustard is no longer a de facto condiment
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:44 PM
May 2020

provided with Chinese takeout. My local place will add to order if specifically requested, but I forget half the time.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
35. For the longest time I was on a hot/sweet mustard kick.
Fri May 15, 2020, 12:16 AM
May 2020

Recently I made myself a Chicago Dog and realized that my special mustard didn’t cut it. Nothing ruins a pastrami like a sweet hot mustard, and as to a proper Chicago Dog it totally screws that pooch.

There is limited space on a big rig, so I tossed a half full Walmart purchase (Walmart doesn’t sell Beaver, my go-to hot/sweet mustard) and went “Old School”.

Less than two weeks ago I switched back to good old French’s. The squeeze bottle is handy, but I do remember the old little jar with fondness.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
41. That Looks Like Quite A Set-Up, Sir
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:20 PM
May 2020

No resemblance at all to what I remember from my hitch-hiking days.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
43. I hear ya.
Fri May 15, 2020, 05:29 PM
May 2020

I was put in a Volvo 860 Globetrotter, their top of the line rig. Turned the first down because it had an automatic transmission, it took my boss several months to get a manual for me.

I’ve been with this company since literally the first day, one of three old beat-down but safely functional trucks. After 7+ years we now have over 80 rigs on the road and the owner does not hesitate to show appreciation to us old plank owners..

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
37. The only thing French about it is the name!
Fri May 15, 2020, 02:49 AM
May 2020

I remember that from the Bush II era back when there were Freedom Fries /sigh

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
38. Down The Mustard Rabbit-Hole, My Friends
Fri May 15, 2020, 01:16 PM
May 2020

This thing has piqued my interest, and I have spent a little time looking into its origins. As is true of most things, there is someone who not only knows about it, but wants to share his or her fascinations with us all.

Here is how the thing looked in the summer of 1937, in color splash advertisements, either in magazines or Sunday papers:





This may be the first appearance, or nearly so: a newspaper advertisement from April, 1937:



Here is the sort of story in the picture texts:










And of course, it wouldn't be advertising in 1940 without something a touch risque..,.


The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
52. Heinz Does Do a Mustard, Doesn't It, Sir
Sat May 16, 2020, 11:15 PM
May 2020

Never really registered. Personally I think the turmeric mustards have little to do with real mustard, but are a sort of separate thing of their own. One I certainly do sometimes have distinct yen for....

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