Just added Showtime to Sling TV, watching "Ray Donovan" for the first time...

[Miles Archer]

...it's my kind of show, fast-paced and quirky. Feel sad every time Jon Voight's on the screen, since he went over the cliff for Trump. It's a case of having to separate the acting from the actor, and I think he fits the role of Donovan's father well...a complete SOB in 100 different ways, the tense relationship between the two.

Started watching with the new season but am also going back to the first episode and working my way through them all.

[Happyhippychick]

1. Just wait until season 5 or 6. Then you have to deal with Susan sarandon

She's even more disgusting than voigt

[WhiteTara]

2. I had to quit watching when she came into the picture

I see she's gone, so I may start watching again.

[dflprincess]

4. You might enjoy how she leaves the series

[WhiteTara]

6. Oh be a spoiler!

Tell me how! I won't watch but that sounds intriguing. Off to jail? Murdered for her nasty ways?

[dflprincess]

8. I PMed you. Nt

[emmaverybo]

3. He does excellent work in Donovan. Very agile physicality. Also great in "Desert Bloom," playing an

unsympathetic, but complex character without any bid for sympathy actors can tend to make even when playing total villains. He played a sensitive character, on the other hand, in Coming Home, so well that many were shocked to find out he is far right wing in real life, associating him for years with his anti-war activist portrayal.

I don’t think of his Ray Donovan character in political terms, his own, or a type’s. I find he manages to take the character role out of dismal stereotype, keeping it theatrical, but not buffoonish.

He’s riveting to watch in low key and keyed up roles. Baffles me how an actor so obviously intelligent and imaginative in craft could be completely stupid and narrow-minded politically. But he isn’t the first artist perceptive in his field and blind in life.

[hlthe2b]

5. Yes.. I separate Voights acting appearances--at least in Donovan from his personna in real life

He does good work in Donovan.

[lunatica]

7. It's lasted for good reason

It’s an excellent series.

John Voight’s character is someone you will learn to hate, so it’s not so bad. He plays an idiot version of a narcissist who is an excellent character to push the plot along into one disaster after another.