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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:36 PM Mar 2019

Have you ever tried to like somebody that you really don't like or trust?

Because it would be in your best interest to like them? Like a boss?

I have a manager who seems very nice on the outside, but there is just something about him that I don't trust or like. He is a salesman and seems very phony to me and as much as I try to take him on face value on the outside, there is something inside of me screaming at me telling me that he is bad news. I have no proof of anything but it is just an overwhelming instinct that he is not a good person and is not on my side.

I have a review with him in a few weeks and he has only been my manager since August, but I don't know how honest I should be with him. I should probably be very diplomatic, but our company encourages having "honest conversations" and "straight talk" so I am wondering if I should politely tell him that I don't feel like he is being honest with me.

Have any of you ever been in this situation? It would be easier to go along to get along, but it's eating me inside to go on pretending.

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Have you ever tried to like somebody that you really don't like or trust? (Original Post) smirkymonkey Mar 2019 OP
Whooo boy. I say trust your gut. Always. MontanaMama Mar 2019 #1
+2 Chin music Mar 2019 #3
I actually had a conversation w/ the boss I had before him where I was smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #4
I understand how you feel, but I wouldn't be "honest" unless I was ready to gateley Mar 2019 #2
Thanks! I can't really get a read on him, so I think he might get defensive. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #5
I think that could make almost anybody defensive. gateley Mar 2019 #11
Thank you. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #15
I REALLY get it -- I figure I'm stuck at my current job until they carry me out in a casket. nt gateley Mar 2019 #16
I am hoping for the same thing. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #17
I had a boss I loathed -- gateley Mar 2019 #18
Thanks! I really am trying to see the best in him. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #19
You can be superficially friendly with this guy, but you don't have to hand over your life to Nay Mar 2019 #22
avoid open ended conversation that leads to more involvement. just the facts etc nt msongs Mar 2019 #6
Yes, above all, I need to avoid getting emotional. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #8
How badly do you need your job? MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #7
I need it and it's a good job, but there might be other opportunities elsewhere in the company smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #9
Wishing you the best. Bad bosses can eat us up MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #10
Thank you! smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #13
Trust your gut/ don't threaten your own livelihood. fierywoman Mar 2019 #12
Thanks. I think I am going to just lay low for now and suck it up. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #14
My experience with trying to like someone I initially distrusted and/or didn't really like fierywoman Mar 2019 #20
Thank you. That is my instinct. smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #21
If Your Company Encouraged You RobinA Mar 2019 #23

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)
1. Whooo boy. I say trust your gut. Always.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:44 PM
Mar 2019

Can you visualize telling this guy that you don’t feel like he is being completely honest with you? Can you give him concrete examples? I know companies encourage “honest conversations” but it isn’t always realistic or safe. How often do you have evaluations with this person? Could you skate by on this one and take up some of these issues at your next evaluation after you’ve been able to get to know him better? Don’t ignore your gut instinct, smirkymonkey.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. I actually had a conversation w/ the boss I had before him where I was
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:48 PM
Mar 2019

completely honest and it went really well. Our relationship improved dramatically, but he was the type of person who was open to it. I don't know if this one would be. There have been a lot of complaints about him, especially that he doesn't listen to people. He's not really doing very well in his role so I am just wondering if I should just wait it out until one of us moves on. Thanks for your advice Mountain Mama! I appreciate it!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
2. I understand how you feel, but I wouldn't be "honest" unless I was ready to
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:47 PM
Mar 2019

get another job. I think the result might make the situation even worse.

Good luck!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Thanks! I can't really get a read on him, so I think he might get defensive.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:50 PM
Mar 2019

Our company is known for allowing people to speak up to our bosses, but I don't trust this situation. He is just too arrogant.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. Thank you.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:19 AM
Mar 2019

I just wish it could be easier. I am at an age where it will not be easy to find a new job, even though I look young.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. I am hoping for the same thing.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:32 AM
Mar 2019

I really don't want to be out there pounding the pavement again at my age. I am at the top of my salary range and I don't know if I can ever get hired making this much money or get such good benefits again. I guess I should just keep my mouth shut and suck it up.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
18. I had a boss I loathed --
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:39 AM
Mar 2019

I started just treating him like a friend and I'll be damned if we didn't become friends! I don't know how it happened and everybody else still loathed him, but I actually ended up liking him. He's just a poor schmo like the rest of us trying to keep on keeping on. Treat him like you would like to be treated, maybe?

You'll figure it out.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Thanks! I really am trying to see the best in him.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:50 AM
Mar 2019

That is why it's such a struggle. I always give him the benefit of the doubt and I will keep on doing that. I hope things will turn around.

I don't know why I feel the way I do. Just instinct, I guess. But I am open to the fact that I could be wrong.

Thanks and have a good night!

Nay

(12,051 posts)
22. You can be superficially friendly with this guy, but you don't have to hand over your life to
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:35 PM
Mar 2019

him.

Montana Mama is correct when she says 'go with your gut feeling' as it's probably right. There's a blog called "ask a manager" where you can discuss (and read others' experiences) about how honest you should be when opening up to your boss. The takeaway is usually "for God's sake, don't spill your guts at work."

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. Yes, above all, I need to avoid getting emotional.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:54 PM
Mar 2019

I think I can. He's really just a terrible manager unless you are an alpha male. Although, I can't really bring that up. He just won't give the time of day to anyone but his pets. I am not the only frustrated one on the team.

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
7. How badly do you need your job?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:53 PM
Mar 2019

I hated being a suck up but I hated the thought of losing my job even more. I’m one of the owners now but still have to suck up to clients. It’s hard but I don’t have enough yet to retire. So ... sucking up for now.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. I need it and it's a good job, but there might be other opportunities elsewhere in the company
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 11:59 PM
Mar 2019

coming up in the next 6 months. I can hold out for a while. It's not that horrible, it's just that it is really uncomfortable for me to have to put on an act. I have a lot of years in so that means a lot of vacation, profit sharing, seniority, etc. I would really hate to give it up. I guess nothing stays the same forever. He's not doing well, so you never know what can happen.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. Thank you!
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:16 AM
Mar 2019

He is kind of stressing me out, but there are many other people ahead of me on his shit list, so I am not too worried for the near future. I don't think I am really on his radar right now.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Thanks. I think I am going to just lay low for now and suck it up.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 12:17 AM
Mar 2019

I don't want to lose this job and I will go along to get along as long as it is tolerable.

fierywoman

(7,690 posts)
20. My experience with trying to like someone I initially distrusted and/or didn't really like
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:31 AM
Mar 2019

is that: my intuition was A-L-W-A-Y-S right. Always. Endings were always unmitigated disasters.
(You could always deal with him by putting up an imaginary mirror between you and him, so everything he threw at you just reflected back to him!)
Peace, dear, peace.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. Thank you. That is my instinct.
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:34 AM
Mar 2019

I know I am right about him but I have to play the game right now to keep my job. I appreciate your advice.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
23. If Your Company Encouraged You
Wed Mar 6, 2019, 01:45 PM
Mar 2019

to jump off a bridge, would you do it??? Being honest at work, about work, is a fool's errand. If you don't want the job or have one foot out the door FOR SURE, be honest. Other than that, suck it up. Honesty is for your personal life. Going along to get along is for work.

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