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applegrove

(118,659 posts)
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:07 PM Feb 2019

I was walking across a street when my leather boots got stuck to the wet

Last edited Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)

pavement. I went splat in the middle of the crosswalk. Fell onto my knees. They are a bit scratched up. I am developing bruises I can tell. Nothing broken. But it hurts. What should I do? Ice? Heat? Aspirin?

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I was walking across a street when my leather boots got stuck to the wet (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2019 OP
Ice first ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #1
Thanks. Appreciate it. Ooh. Too painful to put any pressure on it. Ice applegrove Feb 2019 #4
Ooooooo. I fell last week, so I feel your pain Siwsan Feb 2019 #2
That sounds good. I weigh so much when I hit the pavement I really hit it hard. applegrove Feb 2019 #3
I'm a real klutz so I slip, trip and fall a LOT Siwsan Feb 2019 #5
Never used Epsom salts. How much do you put in the bath? applegrove Feb 2019 #6
I usually put a generous cup, or so, depending my my injury Siwsan Feb 2019 #7
Sorry on the shingles. I had it as a teen. Only hurt when o glazed my hand across applegrove Feb 2019 #9
I had only a few bad blisters Siwsan Feb 2019 #11
Oh good. If you can't get shingles twice that means we are both clear. applegrove Feb 2019 #12
Hopefully!! Siwsan Feb 2019 #14
I've heard good things about turmeric. applegrove Feb 2019 #16
It is really good in 'Golden Milk' Siwsan Feb 2019 #17
I love chai. So I will love this. applegrove Feb 2019 #18
It IS kind of like a coconut chai! I'd never thought of that, before! Siwsan Feb 2019 #19
Made chai from scratch for Christmas day this year. It was yummy but so expensive. applegrove Feb 2019 #20
I buy whole spices when I can find them, on sale Siwsan Feb 2019 #21
Yes. I had some leftover star anise I added to a glass of milk. Drank it cold. applegrove Feb 2019 #22
I had a eally horrible case of Shingles but I was told to have the new vaccine anyway. CTyankee Feb 2019 #39
My neuropathy lasted a couple weeks past the blisters/rash healing Siwsan Feb 2019 #40
So sorry! If you have muscle/ligament hurts, try magnesium oil or magnesium gel. God forbid the fierywoman Feb 2019 #29
There are a couple of Indian/Asian markets, pretty close by Siwsan Feb 2019 #36
Have youever tried aloe vera for sunburn? fierywoman Feb 2019 #38
I always keep a aloe plant in my kitchen Siwsan Feb 2019 #41
Several weeks ago I tripped over a speed bump in a parking lot PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #8
It is too painful right now in one spot for touching it at all. I will ice it applegrove Feb 2019 #10
Put ice in a zip lock bag. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #13
I don't have any ice in the freezer. I just put my ice pack in. I have my feet up. applegrove Feb 2019 #15
Darn. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #32
Thanks. Glad you healed quick. Doesn't always happen when we age. applegrove Feb 2019 #33
Oohh, I get it. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #34
Thx. applegrove Feb 2019 #35
A bag of frozen peas works great as an ice pack MiniMe Feb 2019 #23
I don't have peas. I have frozen fruit but I want to keep that frozen. applegrove Feb 2019 #24
Whiskey... Callmecrazy Feb 2019 #25
I don't imbibe. But i'll pretend. applegrove Feb 2019 #26
No, I mean rub the whiskey on your knees... Callmecrazy Feb 2019 #27
Really? Cause I do have some whiskey here for my dad. Will it really work? applegrove Feb 2019 #28
Ice and Tylenol TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #30
I recently learned about a roll on product called extra strength Stop Pain MLAA Feb 2019 #31
I'm wondering how your boots got "stuck". zanana1 Feb 2019 #37
The wet pavement and the sole of my boot bonded somehow. applegrove Feb 2019 #42
I hope it never happens again. zanana1 Feb 2019 #43
I'll be careful. I am just over 50. Hurt my knee last year and it was wonky for applegrove Feb 2019 #44

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. Ice first
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:14 PM
Feb 2019

The jury is out on NSAIDS because, while they keep swelling down, they thin the blood and can actually cause bruising.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
2. Ooooooo. I fell last week, so I feel your pain
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019

Scraped knee and a cut on the palm of my hand. Ice and rest was what I did. The next day I was a little sore but I was SHOCKED I didn't end up with a bad bruise, because I bruise really, really easily.

I'd recommend a soak in a nice Epsom Salts bath.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
3. That sounds good. I weigh so much when I hit the pavement I really hit it hard.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:22 PM
Feb 2019

I was able to walk home.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
5. I'm a real klutz so I slip, trip and fall a LOT
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:32 PM
Feb 2019

I buy Epsom Salts in BIG bags. When I feel like splurging I buy the Lavender scented and Eucalyptus scented salts.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
7. I usually put a generous cup, or so, depending my my injury
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:40 PM
Feb 2019

More if I'm really sore.

When I was going through Shingles, last Spring, I soaked in a regular Epsom Salts bath every single night, for at least 30 minutes. I think it was part of the reason (along with my Turmeric habit) that I had relatively not overly horrific time getting through it.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
9. Sorry on the shingles. I had it as a teen. Only hurt when o glazed my hand across
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:44 PM
Feb 2019

The rash. No blisters. Went away on its own. I hear shingles really can hurt. Vibes that they don't come back.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
11. I had only a few bad blisters
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:54 PM
Feb 2019

It was spread across my left mid-torso. Not the most comfortable location, that's for sure. Big blisters in front and a scattering of smaller ones across my back. The aftermath was REALLY annoying because I had neuropathy that left the surface of my skin numb, but I still had itching beneath the surface. I just used common sense, in dealing with it. All in all, within a little over a month I was back to what passes for normal.

I've heard that it is rare to get Shingles twice, but it can happen. As a kid, I sailed though measles, mumps and chicken pox so maybe I'm just someone who is lucky to just get light cases of these maladies.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
12. Oh good. If you can't get shingles twice that means we are both clear.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:57 PM
Feb 2019

I had a rash in the shape of the nerves under my skin on my mid torso on the side. No blisters.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
14. Hopefully!!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:03 PM
Feb 2019

I had a friend who got the vaccine, and then a few months later she developed a horrible case of shingles across her upper chest and back. She was months trying to get to the point where she wasn't in bad pain. I heard there was a class action law suit filed over one of the vaccines, and a shortage on what ever they are offering, now.

I take and cook with a lot of Turmeric as a preventative natural anti inflammatory and immune system booster (also garlic), and no one will ever convince me that using those didn't help mitigate the rash, blisters and inflammation.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
17. It is really good in 'Golden Milk'
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:10 PM
Feb 2019

Coconut milk with black pepper, cinnamon, well - a variety of what ever spices you like but the black pepper is essential, some coconut or olive oil, turmeric, and I sweeten it with a little honey. It's a good 'before bed' comfort drink. Lots of recipes on the internet.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
21. I buy whole spices when I can find them, on sale
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:22 PM
Feb 2019

then I grind them, fresh, when I make the Golden Milk. The aroma is wonderful. I should make my own Chai, too. Hmmmm - maybe tomorrow!

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
22. Yes. I had some leftover star anise I added to a glass of milk. Drank it cold.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:26 PM
Feb 2019

Added some Stevie. It was sublime.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
39. I had a eally horrible case of Shingles but I was told to have the new vaccine anyway.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:55 PM
Feb 2019

Today I still have post herpetic neuopethy and I can't control the pain...

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
40. My neuropathy lasted a couple weeks past the blisters/rash healing
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:28 PM
Feb 2019

It was so frustrating to feel an itch but not the attempt to scratch it!!

The worst pain I had was the first sign of what was happening. When I am really stressed, I am susceptible to Costochondritis and I thought that's what was developing. Then I noticed a couple of blisters on the end of my sternum. When I looked in the mirror, I could see the rash starting to spread.

Most of the big blisters spread from those original site, and spread to right beneath my breast, which made for the worst of the discomfort. The ones spread across my back were smaller - more like a mild poison ivy rash. The pain, itself, was more of a numb ache, than anything else. I used a lot of analgesic gel, and that really helped, along with my daily use of Turmeric, epsom salts baths and avoiding certain foods.

I'm lucky to have a pretty strong immune system so I'd rather let it handle things, rather than risking the side effects of what ever Big Pharma is offering. But, that's just how I choose to roll. So far, it seems to be working for me.



fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
29. So sorry! If you have muscle/ligament hurts, try magnesium oil or magnesium gel. God forbid the
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:53 PM
Feb 2019

shingles come back, but if they do, my MD in Italy decades ago recommended baths with either cornstarch or baking soda (damn! can't remember. Being Italy, maybe baking soda since cornstarch wasn't very common.) The turmeric chai sounds very wise -- you can get the spices REALLY cheap at an Indian grocery store if you're lucky enough to be near one.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
36. There are a couple of Indian/Asian markets, pretty close by
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:25 AM
Feb 2019

I've filled a small spice bottle with a mixture of ground black peppercorns, clove, coriander, cardamom and cinnamon.

And I would guess bathing in baking soda, or even oatmeal baths would also be very relieving.

I once had a silver dollar sized burn on my lower arm that looked like it was becoming infected. One of the physicians I worked with said he could prescribe antibiotics, or I could try soaking my arm in a solution of Epsom Salts and water. I chose the 2nd and, within a day, I was shocked at how much relief and diminishing of redness there was. The healing was fast and so complete, I didn't even end up with any kind of scar or mark.



fierywoman

(7,683 posts)
38. Have youever tried aloe vera for sunburn?
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:20 PM
Feb 2019

You get the plant, halve the leaf, put the gel on the burn --- amazing!!!

Get better soon!

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
41. I always keep a aloe plant in my kitchen
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:57 PM
Feb 2019

I don't usually have a problem with sunburn, but I do have a habit of accidentally burning myself while cooking.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
8. Several weeks ago I tripped over a speed bump in a parking lot
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:42 PM
Feb 2019

and went down VERY HARD. I was carrying a box with a small telescope in it, which was why I didn't see the speed bump. The good thing was that the box kept me from crashing straight on my face.

But I banged up my knees quite well. I iced them, which helped enormously. Very little swelling. Then ibuprofen. It took a couple of weeks to heal completely, and even now my right knee is a bit sensitive. No permanent damage, fortunately.

But yeah, absolutely ice the knees.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
10. It is too painful right now in one spot for touching it at all. I will ice it
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:45 PM
Feb 2019

when my ice pack is cold. Yes I am at an age where I have to embrace excercise or I will be a walking hazard to myself. Use it or lose it. My head was going across the cross walk but my feet were not quick enough to recover when they were stuck. I've been taking cabs for the last year as I did hurt my knee over a year ago. That obviously was not doing me any favours.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
13. Put ice in a zip lock bag.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:01 PM
Feb 2019

Don't wait for an ice pack to get cold.

The sooner you ice it the better off you will be.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
32. Darn.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:59 AM
Feb 2019

Having ice at all times is a good idea, and not just to chill a martini.

Feet up will help, but not nearly as much as ice on the knees.

I am absolutely sympathizing with you, remembering all too vividly what happened to me last month.

My little tumble took place in the parking lot of the hotel I was staying in. As I went down, I let out a yell, and a couple of guys nearby immediately raced over to me and helped me up. The fact that I'm 70 and have the gray hair to prove it was an asset in this circumstance.

They helped me inside and I let the people at the front desk know what had happened. They immediately gave me ice, an employee who was sort of a paramedic helped me. We looked at my knees which were already bruising, but fortunately no skin was broken. When they went back and looked at the security camera footage they came out looking a bit shaken, and I think were a bit amazed I hadn't broken anything.

Actually, my left arm, just below the elbow hurt in a way that makes me suspect I might possibly have had a hairline fracture, something I've had experience with before. Luckily, I didn't think I needed to go to an ER. I also tend to heal quickly, and in a couple of weeks that elbow no longer gave me trouble.

Anyway, take very good care of yourself. You are the most important person in your world.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
33. Thanks. Glad you healed quick. Doesn't always happen when we age.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:10 AM
Feb 2019

This is a wake up call for me. I am in my early 50s and I could not keep my feet under me. My boot caught on wet pavement. No ice. Time to walk everywhere and excercises when this heals. Some of it is very painful in the flesh by the knee. No broken skin over that particular area. Broken skin elsewhere with no pain underneath. Don't know how that occurs in physics. Anyhow i 'look forward' to waking up tomorrow to see what my situation really is. At least i have no trouble putting weight on it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
34. Oohh, I get it.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 02:19 AM
Feb 2019

I'm 70, and I like to brag that I'm the healthiest person I know my age. But the kind of thing you're describing happens to me a lot.

About ten years ago I tripped over my own two feet in my driveway. I let out a large yell (you might see a pattern here) as I fell, and a neighbor came racing over. I seemed unhurt. I was on my way to work, so I got in my car and headed off. About halfway through the short (I think I lived about 7 miles from my job) drive, I noticed that it was really painful to shift. Should I point out that I drive a stick? Anyway, I made it through the first half hour of my job, and then told my supervisor that my right arm hurt so much that all I wanted to do was cry, and so I thought I should go to the ER. At the time I worked out patient registration at the local hospital, and most of my job consisted of signing paperwork.

So I went to the ER, and even though I thought that at best I had a dislocated elbow (which I'd done in the distant past and knew how painful it was until relocated), the ER doctor took one look at me, knew it wasn't a simple dislocated elbow and sent me off to x-ray. Turned out I had a non displaced hairline fracture of the ulna, the bone right below the elbow joint. The good news was that I had absolutely no sign of osteoporosis or even bone thinning, even at the age of 60. Nice.

I wound up in a sling for two weeks. The first day back at work, at the end of the day my right arm ached. Then I was off for the weekend and had absolutely no pain afterwards. Lucky me.

I hope things go very well with you. I think the main thing I want to convey is that if you continue to have trouble, you seek immediate help.

I will add this. That the fall I mentioned above, left both knees rather painful and tender for more than two weeks. But I know my body well enough to know that this was more of a nuisance that would pass, rather than something serious that needed looking at. I trust you know your own body as well.

Hang in there. You will get better.

MiniMe

(21,716 posts)
23. A bag of frozen peas works great as an ice pack
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:43 PM
Feb 2019

And the peas will mold to the hurt area. I always kept a bag for that in my freezer, I marked it with a laundry pen and just keep refreezing it.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
24. I don't have peas. I have frozen fruit but I want to keep that frozen.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 08:50 PM
Feb 2019

The ice pack made up of little gel filled beads will be ready in an hour. That will mold like peas. Thanks for the suggestion though.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
30. Ice and Tylenol
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:16 AM
Feb 2019

Aspirin is a blood thinner and will increase the bruising/bleeding.

You can make your own flexible ice packs with dish washing liquid in zip lock bags (double bag 'em).

MLAA

(17,289 posts)
31. I recently learned about a roll on product called extra strength Stop Pain
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:17 AM
Feb 2019

Says it’s for arthritis etc...my dad uses it for sore muscles, tight muscles et al. I just started using it for arthritis in my ankles that hurt after I do a long walk on the treadmill and occasional arthritis pain in my fingers. It sure has worked for me. Just make sure to look for the bottle (looks kind of like a roll on deodorant bottle) that says extra strength.

Funny story, Dad said it was originally called Stop Pain Dead! Haha, what a marketing job...any healthcare product with the word dead in it probably not the best idea 😬

Good luck!

zanana1

(6,114 posts)
37. I'm wondering how your boots got "stuck".
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:05 PM
Feb 2019

I've done alot of falling and tripping in my life, but my feet never got stuck. How did that happen?

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
42. The wet pavement and the sole of my boot bonded somehow.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:27 PM
Feb 2019

I was in the middle of a crosswalk on a busy street during rush hour. So the pavement was relatively warm and wet, my boot stiff and cold. I am heavy and the forward motion of my torso kept going. It was only 1/2 a sec my boot was too bonded to the ground. My boot got free and I tried to recover. But I never got my feet under me again and went down knees first. Fortunately no cars were coming. Got out of the street pretty quick. Still some sore spots this morning. Scraped both knees. But nothing is broken thank God. I am front heavy so it does not take much to topple me. Once I'm off center that is pretty much it. Time to go back on my paleo ke to diet.

zanana1

(6,114 posts)
43. I hope it never happens again.
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 01:31 PM
Feb 2019

I take it you're a young (maybe relatively young) person. If you're not, a fall like that can cause you to live a different lifestyle. Knees don't have alot of padding. If I can help it, I try to fall on my ass!

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
44. I'll be careful. I am just over 50. Hurt my knee last year and it was wonky for
Mon Feb 25, 2019, 08:40 PM
Feb 2019

1/2 a year at least. This is a wake up call to do my physio excercises and loose some weight. And to walk everywhere. I need to be more robust so I don't 'trip over the pavement' again.

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