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yonder

(9,678 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:08 AM Nov 2018

Bar soap conspiracy

Most folks probably use or have used bar soap at some time or other. Have you ever noticed how many name-brand products seem to lose the ability to lather once they get down to a sliver? Or that once they are a sliver they seem to not stick to another bar in order to use all of the product? Or that sliver gets brittle and breaks into ever smaller unusable pieces? Well, we have and suspect that it is some kind of a corporate formulation conspiracy designed to sell more soap. So for the last year we've been conducting a very unscientific little experiment.

It goes like this:

Instead of the name-brand stuff, we've opted to buy and use as many different off-brands as possible. Call them indie brands, from health food stores, the co-op, the dollar store, handcrafted soap from the local artisan, etc. Some are natural, some are expensive, some do not last long, some are great values, others have a pleasant scent (or not) and so on. What these indies do have in common is they do not share the end of bar, characteristics described for the name-brand ones above. I don't know why that might be except for some extra profit motivated corporate manufacturing reason.

So without naming names and not necessarily favourites, here are a couple of comments. By far, the most interesting bar soap we've used is because of it's scent. Advertised as pine tar, it smells something between a machine shop, a tire store and a leather craft store. It's scent is neither disagreeable nor unpleasant, just interesting. It comes in a black box with gray and green trim and made in Kentucky, I think. If you see it in the store, give it a whiff. The other is a huge bar of soap made in the U.S. We find it at the local dollar store and by far it is the best value. As for size and if it were a beer, it would be an oilcan size of Fosters. Out of the box, the bar is a monster and whats-his-name-in-chief would likely have a problem handling it.

Yeah, I know, no proof and our observations are not science but there you go. We've found a few products we like a lot, a few more we like and several which we don't but they all last past the "sliver" stage. We'll probably expand our little experiment to include other, every day, household things as well. With luck, we'll be using less of the same-o, same-o ubiquitous product brands here.

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BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
1. Commercially made soap has less glycerin which is why the bars are 'dryer' and don't have the r/o
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:15 AM
Nov 2018

'sticky' quality that handmade soaps retain right to the end which allows slivers to be squeezed together.

Making your own soap is not that difficult and the rewards are many.

yonder

(9,678 posts)
2. less glycerin equals cheaper, I suppose
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:26 AM
Nov 2018

From way back, I seem to remember something about wood ash, lye and smell good stuff?

BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
3. Here's a simple recipe: r/o
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:56 AM
Nov 2018

High Lather Olive Oil Soap with Coconut Oil
Makes approximately 4.5 lbs. of soap:
• 40 oz. olive oil
• 10 oz. coconut oil
• 16 oz. distilled water
• 6.9 oz. food grade lye granules
• Between 1.5 and 2.2 oz. of fragrance or essential oil, according to your preference

Must wear gloves, goggles, mask, and apron. All ingredients must be weighed on a digital scale. Also, remember that lye is added to the water and NOT the reverse.

There are lots of great websites that have info on the actual process. I'll list some if you need them. The public library should offer a few books, too.


yonder

(9,678 posts)
9. got it
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:37 PM
Nov 2018

I had removal of, rinse off, required optional, reverse osmosis, retain only, etc. and

by the way, welcome to DU.

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
4. There's a great controversy about this issue, it's body wash in my house
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:31 AM
Nov 2018

Yes I know it’s often more expensive and the plastic bottles are not great for the environment. But unlike bar soap, liquid body wash does not leave soap scum in the shower, especially with the hard water around here. I usually get Suave, it’s cheap and often on sale, and smells as good as the more expensive stuff.
Plus at my age it’s not fun to pick up the slippery bar soap from the floor.

pansypoo53219

(21,000 posts)
5. a lot of soaps have added titanium dioxide. used in white artist paint. i do not buy traditional.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:09 AM
Nov 2018

i get †his african theme soap, nubian i think, also found a seller on etsy. formulary 55. she has some amazing smelling soap. and moisturizing. my winter soap. i take all my small soap + combine it w/ water in a dish soap container & make my own soft soap. keep my smelly soap in freezer to retain the scents.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
6. We use Vitabath gel for showering and pump bottles for washing hands.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:46 AM
Nov 2018

We can’t stand messy, gummy soaps, and having to “wash out” the soap dish.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,633 posts)
10. When I get to the sliver stage I press it on to a fresh bar of soap. My current shower bar can be
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

traced back to the nineties!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I haven't used bar soap in years. I always hated the way it got so slimy sitting in the soap dish
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:32 PM
Nov 2018

and how it would slip out of your hands so easily. Once I tried body wash/liquid hand soap I never looked back. Plus, it smells so much nicer than most commercial body soaps.

yonder

(9,678 posts)
14. I'm surprised at all the liquid soap fans.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:06 PM
Nov 2018

Except for hand washing, that stuff just seems so...so odd, to me.

But BlueInRedHell's comment about the commercial manufacturer's lack of glycerin might explain why the commercial stuff is so nasty.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
15. Because of sensitivities to scents and detergents there are few soaps I can use
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:42 PM
Nov 2018

The liquid stuff makes my hands and body peel and sometimes bleed if I use it regularly. Ivory soap gives me hives.

Most soaps have added scents that aggravate me - before anti-allergy medicines were easily available, I would start sneezing and not be able to stop until I got rid of the scent. If I could get past the scent, in a few months use I would start getting a rash from the soap - not quite hives but really, really itchy.

The one soap I have been able to use for more than a few months was Pure & Natural. A number of years ago one of the big companies bought it, renamed the soap I like to Basic and for a short period tried to compete with Herbal Essence using the Pure & Natural name on "natural" scented products.

When Basic began showing up in the Big Lots stores, I noticed that it was no longer listed on the company website. In fear that it was discontinued, I stocked up and have close to a thirty year supply of Basic in my cabinet. Big Lots seems to still have it so I may buy some more to keep my stock filled!

The sensitivities extend to my laundry and dish soaps - I have to buy unscented versions and even some of those can cause a skin reaction.

yonder

(9,678 posts)
16. I think this thread opened my eyes to much more than my original bar soap complaint/experiment.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 12:25 AM
Nov 2018

I was mostly wondering why brand-name bar soap crap out at the end. I think that was answered.

I'm sorry csz, that you've some sensitivities that can lead to problems by not paying attention. That would be a pain in the ass. We're blessed and don't have to worry much in that regard. This past year we've done enough experimenting to figure out what we generally like. It sounds like you've found something that works for you too.

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