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If you could afford to move to another country, which one would you choose? (Original Post) red dog 1 Oct 2018 OP
new zealand lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #1
+1000 Pachamama Oct 2018 #51
The South Island. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2018 #89
Japan vercetti2021 Oct 2018 #2
France, if I had any ability to learn languages. Nt spooky3 Oct 2018 #3
If I had the money, saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #17
Costa Rica True Dough Oct 2018 #4
If I could speak the language, Portugal. Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #5
I said Portugal too! A lot of people speak English there, especially the younger ones. Maraya1969 Oct 2018 #55
It's the land of my ancestors. Would love to live there. onecaliberal Oct 2018 #58
none qazplm135 Oct 2018 #6
NZ GeorgeGist Oct 2018 #7
I'd buy back this one. violetpastille Oct 2018 #8
I like how you think. saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #15
Thank you! violetpastille Oct 2018 #20
++ yes good answer lunasun Oct 2018 #36
Great answer SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #60
Ireland. Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #9
From what I read Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #11
Any particular part of Ireland? red dog 1 Oct 2018 #14
Canada or Costa Rica. n/t sarge43 Oct 2018 #10
New Zealand. Luciferous Oct 2018 #12
Norway. Nt raccoon Oct 2018 #13
Me, too. I have some distant relatives there The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #47
Ireland... Harker Oct 2018 #16
Sounds good to me! red dog 1 Oct 2018 #19
Three of the most wonderful weeks... Harker Oct 2018 #21
Have you seen the movie "The Matchmaker" with Janeane Garofalo, Milo O'Shea & Denis Leary? red dog 1 Oct 2018 #70
I appreciate that, red... Harker Oct 2018 #74
I love it...It's a romantic comedy, but a good one! red dog 1 Oct 2018 #92
If money isn't an object, Denmark Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2018 #18
France, in a heartbeat. NNadir Oct 2018 #22
UK (Scotland) or Germany ailsagirl Oct 2018 #23
Panama Kaleva Oct 2018 #24
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! COLGATE4 Oct 2018 #85
Hmmm... Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #25
I haven't visited since 1979, but I loved Italy. Laffy Kat Oct 2018 #26
NZ shanny Oct 2018 #27
Canada Meadowoak Oct 2018 #28
I'm with you. zanana1 Oct 2018 #41
New Zealand or Canada. democratisphere Oct 2018 #29
Costa Rica would be high on my list of possible countries. avebury Oct 2018 #30
They have sloths! The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #66
And they don't avebury Oct 2018 #67
They have *cute* sloths, and a sloth sanctuary! The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #69
Japan. #2 South Korea pangaia Oct 2018 #31
Ireland williesgirl Oct 2018 #32
Parallel universe USA NotASurfer Oct 2018 #33
If only.... GemDigger Oct 2018 #34
Any chance of leaving her crazed, endless tormenters on this side SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #62
I think they can add a daemon to the code on the gateway's destination subprogram NotASurfer Oct 2018 #63
denmark was sane & has LOVELY bakery. pansypoo53219 Oct 2018 #35
My first thought is Ireland. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2018 #37
Germany 1st Canada 2nd Scotland 3rd. Doreen Oct 2018 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2018 #39
Ireland or Wales area51 Oct 2018 #40
Saw The Struts (UK band) recently SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #61
Money? You need a visa first and that ..... Thyla Oct 2018 #42
Moved to France at the beginning of September and we're loving it so far GoneOffShore Oct 2018 #43
France would be high on my list, but I had only h.s. French, know I would never SuprstitionAintthWay Oct 2018 #65
Somewhere far north and liberal. nt LWolf Oct 2018 #44
Canada femmocrat Oct 2018 #45
France bikebloke Oct 2018 #46
Vancouver Island, Canada. Husband had LibDemAlways Oct 2018 #48
I choose there too just on the pics I've seen! JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #79
UK or Austria. smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #49
Canada. love_katz Oct 2018 #50
France if money was no object. lark Oct 2018 #52
I really want to move to South Portugal in the mountain region. Maraya1969 Oct 2018 #53
Zermatt Switzerland or Ontario somewhere around Lake Superior or Lake Huron Botany Oct 2018 #54
Nice photo! red dog 1 Oct 2018 #72
Great photo! FakeNoose Oct 2018 #73
I stole the pix from Wikipedia Botany Oct 2018 #75
This is the photo (in reduced-size) of my desktop wallpaper FakeNoose Oct 2018 #87
South Korea Qanisqineq Oct 2018 #56
Thailand would be my first choice, Costa Rica my second. DonViejo Oct 2018 #57
I would love to move to Vancouver, British Columbia SummerSnow Oct 2018 #59
That would be my choice too! llmart Oct 2018 #68
I'd move to Germany in a heartbeat FakeNoose Oct 2018 #64
lol red dog 1 Oct 2018 #71
England 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2018 #76
Vancouver area, Canada. RandySF Oct 2018 #77
Aruba mainstreetonce Oct 2018 #78
the UK. I have the village picked out. dawg day Oct 2018 #80
My birth country... pbmus Oct 2018 #81
Ireland. Canada.. LisaM Oct 2018 #82
Ireland MFM008 Oct 2018 #83
Hawaii Ccarmona Oct 2018 #84
The only countries I have been to other than the US is West Germany 1969-70 and doc03 Oct 2018 #86
Canada get the red out Oct 2018 #88
The Delta area of Vancouver BC Canada or Jurien Bay, WA AU or the Montpellier area of France. Tikki Oct 2018 #90
The Netherlands MrScorpio Oct 2018 #91
Ideally, Hogwarts. IrishEyes Oct 2018 #93
Canada. It's what the US could have been... n/t Progressive Jones Oct 2018 #94

A HERETIC I AM

(24,372 posts)
89. The South Island.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 06:05 AM
Oct 2018

Countryside there looks like many landscapes in the US.

Take a drive down a road Northeast of Invercargill using Google street view;

https://goo.gl/maps/hUVeVabqdCo

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
17. If I had the money,
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 06:02 PM
Oct 2018

language would be no barrier to living anywhere in the world. Also,for those comparing housing costs in San Francisco or New York, with France, the higher cost of living across the pond might be worth it.

Mr.Bill

(24,310 posts)
5. If I could speak the language, Portugal.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:45 PM
Oct 2018

If limited to English speaking countries, Australia. The driving on the left side of the road would be a struggle, though. I suppose people get used to it.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
55. I said Portugal too! A lot of people speak English there, especially the younger ones.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:05 PM
Oct 2018

But I would invest in a good language learning software.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
8. I'd buy back this one.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 04:53 PM
Oct 2018

Its a nice piece of real estate. Quiet neighbors, ocean views on both sides.

Sure it's a tear-down now, but can't you see the potential?

red dog 1

(27,837 posts)
14. Any particular part of Ireland?
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 05:20 PM
Oct 2018

Last edited Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:47 PM - Edit history (1)

I think I'd check out Tuum, County Galway.
My cousin & her husband visited there and said it was a nice little town.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,780 posts)
47. Me, too. I have some distant relatives there
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:27 AM
Oct 2018

and I speak a little bit of the language, and I don't mind cold weather. The scenery is magnificent.

red dog 1

(27,837 posts)
19. Sounds good to me!
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 07:08 PM
Oct 2018

I'd even consider the Aron Islands - They're three islands off the Wast Coast of Ireland.

Harker

(14,028 posts)
21. Three of the most wonderful weeks...
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 09:11 PM
Oct 2018

of my life were spent on the west coast. I saw the Aran Islands, but we never caught the ferry out there.

I was a tweed fan prior. Now I'm all in!

red dog 1

(27,837 posts)
70. Have you seen the movie "The Matchmaker" with Janeane Garofalo, Milo O'Shea & Denis Leary?
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:39 PM
Oct 2018

It was filmed in Ireland, and there are some great scenes of the Aran islands.
It's worth renting on Netflix.

Harker

(14,028 posts)
74. I appreciate that, red...
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:44 PM
Oct 2018

I have a TV and Blu-ray player. Just need to attach them to each other. Haven't seen a movie in over a year. That sounds like one to break a drought with!

red dog 1

(27,837 posts)
92. I love it...It's a romantic comedy, but a good one!
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 03:36 PM
Oct 2018

and there are some very funny scenes, especially near the end.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
85. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:26 PM
Oct 2018

Many people don't realize all the advantages Panama has as a second (or replacement) country for the US. First, beautiful tropical beaches, jungles and cosmopolitan Panama City. English is widely used and understood, people are friendly and the US Dollar is the national currency. And, as you mention if you are a retiree Panama has a visa for you which includes a ton of great freebies and discounts. It has all the advantages of Costa Rica but is not nearly as expensive.

Laffy Kat

(16,384 posts)
26. I haven't visited since 1979, but I loved Italy.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:25 PM
Oct 2018

The people, the food, the language (which I don't know and would like to learn) and the geography.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
27. NZ
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:27 PM
Oct 2018

Southern hemisphere; democratic; English-speaking, sorta; not crazy...a diverse enough climate to produce all kinds of food (if you don't mind lamb/mutton). otoh, no metals...might be a good thing. Not easy to reach, come the time.

Personally, I don't think the coming collapse is very far off (my lifetime, certainly) and no place will be far enough away. Also too, strangers will be the first over the side, when it comes to that. Certainly better to pick an English-speaking country where you can blend...

avebury

(10,952 posts)
30. Costa Rica would be high on my list of possible countries.
Sat Oct 6, 2018, 10:55 PM
Oct 2018

Greater year round temperatures, lower cost of living, great health care system. It is the only Central American country with no standing army.

Norway has a really high quality of life but I don't know how I would adapt to long, cold winters.

Although if I had enough money and was retired I would consider the idea of living on cruise ships. No house cleaning, no cooking, on the move, you learn to minimalize and if you get tired of one ship you move to another ship. A cruise around the world would be amazing.

NotASurfer

(2,153 posts)
63. I think they can add a daemon to the code on the gateway's destination subprogram
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:46 PM
Oct 2018

When a MAGA hat uses the gateway, have the daemon route then to a different parallel universe, the Hitler universe. Where they will be happy until they are told they are not quite up to snuff on the Nazi Scale of Racial Purity. Which will confuse the hell out of them

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
37. My first thought is Ireland.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:50 AM
Oct 2018

The last time I was there was in 1989, and I know it's changed a lot, so I'd have to visit and check it out. Otherwise any other English speaking country: Australia, Canada, New Zealand.

I've told my son who is currently in a PhD program in astronomy that he might want to consider accepting a post overseas when he's done with school, and we'll work out how I can join him.

Response to red dog 1 (Original post)

area51

(11,915 posts)
40. Ireland or Wales
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 04:55 AM
Oct 2018

I was told our family had ancestors there, and of course, these are civilized countries so health care is a human right, unlike here in the states.

61. Saw The Struts (UK band) recently
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 02:11 PM
Oct 2018

The frontman asked us all to get down to the ground, but we'd be "excused if anybody has a leg that can't manage it and you'll hurt yourself. We're in America, I know you'd have to pay for it yourself!"

Our allies from more civilized lands, who can't fathom the mercenary heartlessness of our system here, are aware and do feel for us.

Thyla

(791 posts)
42. Money? You need a visa first and that .....
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:38 AM
Oct 2018

Last edited Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Will be your biggest issue.

Sure some countries requirements can be costly but in general moving countries can be entirely affordable but you first need to get past the visa process.

A little bit of courage and a skill set goes a long way too.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
43. Moved to France at the beginning of September and we're loving it so far
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 08:17 AM
Oct 2018

Well, except for the whole bureaucracy thing, which is a bit like the DMV but with even less a sense of urgency.

And there was the whole refrigerator saga, which in retrospect, is more than a bit funny. Especially the week when we had three fridges in our flat.

65. France would be high on my list, but I had only h.s. French, know I would never
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 03:40 PM
Oct 2018

...MASTER (on at least some level) the language, and I know I would very much miss that.... communication in any language is so loaded with subtlety, nuance, and subtext. I think of Garrison Keillor (if we may still mention him), how he intended to live out the rest of his life with a Danish wife in her country, but this is the thing that pulled him back home: It would take him a lifetime to master the Danish language like he'd mastered English; he was missimg so much around him in the meantime; and he didn't have another lifetime to do so anyway.

It'd be a form of FOMO. I'd fear... know, really... that I was missing out on the full depth and richness of what was happening around me. And I have a passion "to know."

It helps us tremendously of course that our language is the world's second language, and that so many Europeans know it at least fairly well. That said, it would be easier to be in a country in which most people didn't resent and resist speaking to an anglophone in English. I haven't been to either Netherlands or Scandinavia, but I understand that isn't as major an issue there, not like it is in France.

I do (I believe) understand why this is for the French, and it's hard to blame them. The French have never gotten over the fact that it was the Brits' language that conquered the world, and not their own. If only they'd colonized more of North America! If only the French and Indian War had turned out differently. Mon dieu, imagine a modern world of francophones: not having to always hear the inelegant speech of those near-barbarians across the channel!

I don't think (?) the Dutch took losing Europeans' world domination competition so much to heart. And certainly there's not a big "that could have been us!" issue about using English for Scandinavians. (Though those nationalities might have other reasons for resisting and resenting English, I don't know. Nobody ENJOYS an outside culture overpowering one's own.)

Obviously, I've thought about moving abroad. And I am a bit of a francophile. But the above is why, if I ever did, it'd probably be to an English-speaking country.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
48. Vancouver Island, Canada. Husband had
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 11:35 AM
Oct 2018

neighbors who retired there back in the 1960's. Beautiful home overlooking Puget Sound. Gorgeous.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
49. UK or Austria.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 12:33 PM
Oct 2018

I studied in Austria in college and loved it there. Plus it was a great base to travel to many other countries that I want to visit and has one of the highest standards of living.

love_katz

(2,581 posts)
50. Canada.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 12:53 PM
Oct 2018

Either British Columbia or Yukon territory. If not there, then either one of the Nordic countries or the U.K. I am in despair for the land of my birth. , and filled with unquenchable rage!

lark

(23,134 posts)
52. France if money was no object.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:01 PM
Oct 2018

Since money is definitely an object, especially with worries about the continuance of Social Security, Portugal looks good. If my husband's new job works out like I hope, we might be able to swing moving there in a few years. If Social SEcurity goes away along with ACA, and the job doesn't work out, I don't know how we will afford to live here! Got to take back st least the House for our own protection along with that of the country's constitution.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
53. I really want to move to South Portugal in the mountain region.
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:02 PM
Oct 2018

I was in Lisbon last March and in the mountains last June and I just loved it. I follow a Guru named Mooji.
( https://mooji.org/ ) I know that sounds weird and believe me I would be the first person to think I was crazy if I wasn't me.


I never felt so good then when I was there. I had no aches and pains and I have to use a scooter and a wheelchair sometimes at home or in an airport. And the weather is so mild, not like the sweat-house here in Florida. It just felt like paradise.

Botany

(70,539 posts)
54. Zermatt Switzerland or Ontario somewhere around Lake Superior or Lake Huron
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 01:04 PM
Oct 2018


I would not move to Oklahoma or Arkansas .... I floated the Buffalo river there once and many of the
locals were just nasty and still pissed off about the outcome of the Civil War.

FakeNoose

(32,678 posts)
73. Great photo!
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 07:27 PM
Oct 2018

I have something very similar to this as my permanent desktop wallpaper, so I look at it several times per day.

On my desktop photo, the Matterhorn is farther in the distance and Zermatt is lower down in the valley. (It must have been shot from the next mountain overlooking Zermatt.)

Botany

(70,539 posts)
75. I stole the pix from Wikipedia
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 10:14 PM
Oct 2018

Although I have pix of me w/the Matterhorn in the background as i was skiing
years ago.

FakeNoose

(32,678 posts)
87. This is the photo (in reduced-size) of my desktop wallpaper
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 12:29 AM
Oct 2018

I love this photo so much but I didn't take it! Sometimes I imagine myself in a Hutte on the side of a mountain just like this. The Matterhorn is off in the distance. I think this must be looking south towards northern Italy because the Matterhorn is on the border between Italy and Switzerland.

Wish I knew the name of this big mountain that's closer to Zermatt, and I keep checking maps of the Swiss Alps, trying to figure out the name of it.





llmart

(15,545 posts)
68. That would be my choice too!
Sun Oct 7, 2018, 06:28 PM
Oct 2018

I've never been there but have a stepsister who lives there. She loves it.

doc03

(35,358 posts)
86. The only countries I have been to other than the US is West Germany 1969-70 and
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 12:03 AM
Oct 2018

Canada. When I was in the Army I was stationed in Amberg, West Germany, I liked it there it was very much like
eastern Ohio. I was only at the falls in Canada so didn't see much, I think it would be too cold for me. From what I hear Costa Rica would be nice.

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
90. The Delta area of Vancouver BC Canada or Jurien Bay, WA AU or the Montpellier area of France.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 09:45 AM
Oct 2018

Uruguay seems interesting, but as seniors it might be hard to make the transition, we only
speak stumbling Spanish.


Tikki

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
93. Ideally, Hogwarts.
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 08:14 PM
Oct 2018

Since that doesn't exist I would move to Greece. Amazing history, beautiful sights and delicious food.

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