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Women become progressively happier as they age, according to a health survey conducted in England. They have higher rates of poor mental health than men throughout much of their lives, until over the age of 85, when womens overall happiness increases and mens decreases.
With the exception of the elderly set, women were more likely than men to have poor mental health at nearly every age. Overall, 21 percent of women reported mental health problems, compared to 16 percent of men. The change that occurred over a lifetimeleading to less mental health concerns among womenwas likely due to the specific burden of responsibilities that women often carry, according to the dean of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, Kate Lovett. Further, many women are widowed by then, which psychiatrists say may also be a factor.
Women are still more likely to bear the brunt of domestic and caring responsibilities, Lovett told the Times. As women age, that burden may lessen as they are no longer responsible for children and elderly parents.
http://www.newsweek.com/women-over-85-are-happier-because-their-partner-dead-then-psychiatrists-say-748067
LOL! Too funny.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,584 posts)So, if you want a slow death!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)worry I didn't what to burden them with my money so I'm spending it. I'm single.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,584 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)they live longer too.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)Divorce works very well, too, with the exact same result. The best part is that nobody has to die, it's available at a much younger age, and you get to start over on a better track before you're too old to enjoy it.
I speak from personal experience - with no regrets.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)It hadn't occurred to me that anyone might worry about such a thing! Now that you mention it, people here don't know the "real me" and how I might pursue more radical options, though, do they?
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)Grey divorce has become a trend. The divorce rate for those over 50 has doubled since the 1990's.
I left at age 66 after 32 years of marriage. Just couldn't do it any more. Love was long gone. No looking back.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)I only lasted 2 years with the first marriage in my 20's, and 3 years with the second at 40ish, interrupted by an 18-month separation. That was almost 30 years ago and I've been very happily single ever since. Like you, there's been no looking back.
Saw this video in another thread, and I feel the song and the sentiment are entirely appropriate here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=WufjSyE_rK8
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)Spent 7 years with the first (married at 21, way too young). Fortunately no kids with #1 so a clean break. Swept off my feet by soon to be ex after 5 years of being single. We did have kids--two boys--now 31 and 28.
I'm done now. As I've told friends, I'm not trading in one old man for another.
Very cool video.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)We're raised with expectations both given to us (love! romance!) and placed upon us (responsibility! family!), but how many of us have seen what a truly good marriage is like from the inside and know what it takes to achieve the same?
It's no surprise at all that we flounder around when we have to learn to live in the real world. How quickly or slowly we learn is largely determined by our life experiences. The good news is that we did learn.
llmart
(15,552 posts)Left at 61 after 42 years. Should have done it ten years earlier. Best decision I ever made for my golden years.
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)I wish I'd done it 10 years ago, too.
Corvo Bianco
(1,148 posts)As long as we're bragging I just never got hitched! Also no regrets!
silverweb
(16,402 posts)Having no regrets confirms that it was the right decision for you.
ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)She said forever all she wanted was a year without my Dad. I gave her four. She was much happier.
Ohiogal
(32,055 posts)When I was a teenager she used to say things to me once in a while like "I should have left your father years ago" and things like that. I don't remember them acting affectionate to each other.
Nay
(12,051 posts)trouble making ends meet, was a thousand times happier. She actually had a nice Canadian suitor at one time, but she pulled the plug on that, saying: "All they want is someone to wash their socks." I can't disagree.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)At least my grandmother heaved a big sigh of relief when the old coot finally checked out in his middle eighties, and she even seemed to return to some modicum of sanity afterwards. At least she no longer fretted that her octogenarian husband was having it off with the teenage girls who walked by their house on the way to school.
I certainly plan on getting more annoying every year. Mrs. Obvious has that to look forward to.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Ohiogal
(32,055 posts)Seen it many times in my extended family.
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)Grrrrrr.....
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)genxlib
(5,534 posts)I suspect that this is case of misplaced correlation.
Maybe happier people live longer. Maybe only the happy ones are still alive in their 80s to even respond to this survey. Maybe the miserable ones don't make it that long.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 26, 2018, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)
the women in my family lived to late 80s years ago, so I assume my generation will live to 90-something. It's not unusual. It IS unusual for men to live that long, and no, it's not because "they work so hard," which was what I'd always heard. It's just the their gender, turns out. Just like each gender is prone to certain ailments.
In any case, I was married, and I thought that marriage was easier for men and benefited them more. But society dictates that women should get married to have kids and to be "normal" and not end up "spinsters." And they fall in love, of course. Once they do all that, and if it doesn't work out, they're free to live their lives in a way that married women are not.
I know that after I got separated and moved, it felt like a big horse had been lifted off my shoulders. I felt happier & freer than I had in years. But maybe that's not related to the over-85 crowd, since I was unhappily married.
msongs
(67,440 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)I believe I was a good husband, both times. My children say I was.
And, yes, I am cranky. Being old is not for sissies.
I just took some ethics test (and passed) and applied for reciprocity for the New Mexico bar. Only computer test I've ever taken in my life.
Allegedly, I will be the oldest member of the New Mexico bar.
Keeping the mind sharp by working and staying as fit as you can is the key to a happy old age. Never retire.
I'm thinking I will volunteer as a public defender. I was a prosecutor many, many years ago.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I posted that survey result because I thought it was funny. I think some may read it as insulting, though, which it isn't meant to be.
It's just that some women spend their lives in the service of others...taking care of kids and husband and house, then taking care of ailing parents (both of 'em) and husband, then taking care of ailing husband. Some women never get to spend their lives mainly taking care of themselves, so I think that's what the survey means. But some women probably like taking care of others, so ....
In the case of my father, who is 85...he is 14 years older than his wife. You'd think she takes care of "the old man"? Nope. SHE is the one with failing health big time...HE takes care of her. He is the one with the good health! You never know what will happen.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)I went to shul in El Paso. An older woman (much younger than me) was very interested because I am very fit and look ~25 years younger than I am -- but mainly because I have my driver's license, and she did not. (I think its because I worked inside most of my life and didn't have exposure to UV.)
But I now live with my son. His wife is lovely, but she wouldn't take another boarder, even back here in the guest house.
And, candidly, I enjoy just my family.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She won't take her husband's father in the guest house? Hmmmm. Not very nice, since you're on your own, and you are his father. But maybe she figures it'll be too much work on her in some way.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)They insisted I come live with them. Something about "Crown Heights being no place for an old man." There have been a fair number of antisemitic attacks in NYC (no, not Trumpers; there's a weird cult there, long story) on older Jewish men, so I reluctantly agreed.
But adding a step-mother-in-law to that? Meh!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)CincyDem
(6,385 posts)Q: Why do Jewish husbands die before their wives ?
A: Because they can.
Sometimes when I want to shut down a little tiff we're having I'll just say "because I can". Then I get the evil eye and I agree that she wins. lol
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)shanked. The trend is they'll wait until the klids are about to graduate college. After you been an active hands on father who busted his ass to keep a job and pay the freight for the better part of 3 decades. Add sleeping by her by her bedside during hospital stays and supported her continuous career changes and numerous catastrophic financial decisions. They will have sucked all the life they can out of you and decide it's time to go for your jugular Then they will post life affirming memes on Facebook with a theme that nothing matters in life but their own happiness as if they have to convince the world .
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Guys are supposed to not let our mental health be a thing, where women are encouraged to be more attentive to that side of things. With men being significantly more likely to commit suicide, it seems at least we are more likely to suffer the most severe impact of poor mental health.