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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 12:57 PM Jan 2018

J.R.R. Tolkien specifically forbade Disney from ever being involved in any movie adaptations

When J.R.R. Tolkien sold the movie rights to his Lord of the Rings universe, one of the specific stipulations of the deal was that Disney (an organization he had very strong feelings about) would never be involved in the adaptation process.

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J.R.R. Tolkien specifically forbade Disney from ever being involved in any movie adaptations (Original Post) steve2470 Jan 2018 OP
Would Disney has hashed it up any worst than Jackson? TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #1
I thought that the LOTR films were effective and very faithful to the source material Orrex Jan 2018 #2
I agree that the LOTR films were a bit better that "The Hobbit" TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #3
That's a fair critique, but again I cite the 10,000 pages of walking Orrex Jan 2018 #5
agree on the siege of Helm's Deep NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #8
Yes the resolution with Saruman was unfortunate exboyfil Jan 2018 #6
I think all the Oscars for Return of the King NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #9
Agreed. Those movies were an abomination. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2018 #4
Disney would have replaced Gollum with a singing, dancing teapot. longship Jan 2018 #7
Meh. His work is reactionary nonsense anyway. Codeine Jan 2018 #10

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. Would Disney has hashed it up any worst than Jackson?
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:01 PM
Jan 2018

They would do the same thing and basically tell a story sort of inspired by the books. Personally I feel that if Hollywood wants to do a movie it ought to be original as they tend to screw up just about every book adaptation I've ever seen. Now the Brits seem to be a little less heavy handed and stay much closer to the story.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
2. I thought that the LOTR films were effective and very faithful to the source material
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jan 2018

And Jackson made some excellent choices re: eliminating extraneous crap (such as 10,000 pages that Fellowship spent on walking).

Of course, The Hobbitt trilogy was a complete shit-show trainwreck from start to finish.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. I agree that the LOTR films were a bit better that "The Hobbit"
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jan 2018

What I find lacking in both is a tendency to action at the expense of the movement of the hobbits from provincial bumpkins to genuine heroes. A 4th movie could've been made "The Cleansing of the Shire" would be most welcome as it shows the coming of age for the hobbits and the Shire to take action in the face of the loss of home and land.

Orrex

(63,215 posts)
5. That's a fair critique, but again I cite the 10,000 pages of walking
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:37 PM
Jan 2018

I've been a fantasy geek my whole life, and only through a dedicated brute-force effort was I able to make it through Fellowship.

Also, Tolkien's telling of the battle of Helm's Deep is positively arid compared to the screen portrayal.


But you can say whatever you like about The Hobbit trilogy, and I won't contradict you.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. agree on the siege of Helm's Deep
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jan 2018

and, the charge of the Rohirrim in Return of the King gave me shivers the first time I saw it on screen.

The biggest disappointment to me, however, was that we did not get the Scouring of the Shire. To me, that part of the books really showed how the hobbits had grown as characters. Instead of the endless endings from the movie, they could easily have given us the Scouring

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
6. Yes the resolution with Saruman was unfortunate
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jan 2018

I think I can understand the decision given the pacing of the movies and the ground yet to be covered (Aragorn/Arwin accession and the Elves evacuation with Gandalf and the ring bearers). It is funny that the 3rd movie won the Academy award when the 2nd was the stronger movie (the siege of Helm's Deep was superior emotionally to that of Gondor).

Still in all it was a masterful series of three movies. My daughter recently watched them again (extended DVD versions).

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. I think all the Oscars for Return of the King
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 06:18 PM
Jan 2018

were kind of a reward for the achievement of all three movies.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
4. Agreed. Those movies were an abomination.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jan 2018

Visuals were cool, the story was horrificly mutilated. I had to turn it off halfway through the first film.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Disney would have replaced Gollum with a singing, dancing teapot.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 02:05 PM
Jan 2018

Just saying. I despise Disney, especially their animations.
Absolutely wretched things.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. Meh. His work is reactionary nonsense anyway.
Thu Jan 11, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jan 2018

Frankly I felt the LotR films were an enormous improvement on his ridiculous Tom Bombadil HeeHiDiddlyOh bullshit. I’ve read the series twice and I just don’t get why it’s as well-regarded as it is. I quite enjoyed the films.

But Jackson’s Hobbit series was probably WORSE than what Disney would have given us. It was like a cutscene from a video game that NEVER FUCKING ENDED!!

I want Hollywood to make an Elric series. Screw those miserable little Hobbitses.

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