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Delphinus
(11,831 posts)it verified from someone in the know.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)And this is the second clip I've seen of David Pakman --he's good. I'll check him out. Thanks for posting!
Appreciate the support from DU, and we have some great paid members that are DU regulars, glad to have everyone's thoughts as always.
Cha
(297,314 posts)dpakman!
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)6502
(249 posts)The fellow you were interviewing said something there were shenanigans in Florida and that "both sides were doing it".
That was a perfect opportunity to follow up and ask the your "guest" to clarify and quantify what he meant when he said it.
Why didn't you do the simple follow-up?
That was a false equivalence slow pitch and you didn't swing it.
I mean, he essentially did something like saying,
"Yeah, there was lots of meat and fish at the banquette and both the vegetarians and non-vegetarians were eating meat."
Now, anybody who just read what I wrote immediately would say something like:
Why that doesn't make sense. The vegetarians I know that would even eat meat at a banquetee usually would have done so by total accident.
You see how I did that?
That's "false equivalence".
And I didn't just slow-ball it...
I walked this one right up to the batter.
And with nobody to call me on it, I just made it seem like there was a even split of vegetarians and omnivores eating meat at the banquette.
I hope to see you (heck, or anybody) actually hold people accountable for false equivalence crap.
Recently, I've heard stories that Soledad O'Brien, the lady on CNN, has been grabbing false-equivalence and weasel-words types by the throat and throttling them on air.
That takes guts.
At least call them out on "false equivalence" stuff.
And be merciless.
Mortos
(2,390 posts)I listen to him and my pretend girlfriend, Rachel Maddow, on the free Stitcher app. His show is really good, very calm and measured delivery.
gateley
(62,683 posts)to his mailing list. I'll definitely check him out on the podcast!!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)tnlurker
(1,020 posts)Cha
(297,314 posts)David Shuster.. been awhile. Thanks celtics.
Yeah, he has it exactly right.. the difference between faux and msnbc is REALITY. As in msnbc is mostly dealing in reality and faux?.. Never.
I hadn't had a tv for a long time before getting one back in 1999. So, I checked out fox as a new adventure in "news" and it took me about 2 weeks to see what they were doing to Al Gore.. and, I banned them forever. Now look how far they've gone down the drain.
I don't even have a tv anymore.. love my laptop.
there are a lot of conservative voices on MSNBC. Morning Joe is more conservative than liberal most of the time.
calimary
(81,318 posts)I lost track after Olbermann left there, and I haven't been paying much attention since then.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)and will do guest spots for Bill Press and Stephanie Miller on Current.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)The strategy of pushing a Right Wing agenda is, "Catching up with Fox News."
I would have said they are finally drowning in their own B.S. Before long, perhaps, Roger Ailes will be writing a tell-all book about his relationship with the Murdochs. (I'll buy it!)
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)After the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, I turned on Shep Smith every day at 5. His newscasts were the best. Smith is the only one on Fox I can stand to watch, his coverage of the inauguration was good too.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)indicate a longer-term shift. People want accurate information regardless of their pre-existing political views.
Good interview.