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Former Fox News Reporter Tells All (Original Post) celtics23 Feb 2013 OP
Looks like Shuster. Sorry, no BW for video. longship Feb 2013 #1
Glad to have Delphinus Feb 2013 #2
David Shuster confirms what is painfully obvious. Fox News is a GOP propaganda machine. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #3
I really think MSNBC made a mistake getting rid of Shuster. I wish they'd bring him back. gateley Feb 2013 #4
thanks! dpakman91 Feb 2013 #6
It was a Good interview.. thanks, Cha Feb 2013 #8
Keep on doing what you're doing, Dave& CO! maddiemom Feb 2013 #10
You really ARE very good, you know. gateley Feb 2013 #19
We'd love to see more of you. Clearest interviews ever. Thanks. freshwest Feb 2013 #20
[Hi, Packman]=> Way to go missing the slow ball... 6502 Feb 2013 #22
David Pakman has an excellent free podcast Mortos Feb 2013 #16
I've really enjoyed him when someone has posted a clip. Just subscribed gateley Feb 2013 #18
I didn't know that. I've subscribed to StevenLeser's as well. freshwest Feb 2013 #21
Thanks -- I'll check him out, too! gateley Feb 2013 #23
Yep, just listened to DP's latests and SL's with Ida Briggs. freshwest Feb 2013 #24
I'll watch this later tnlurker Feb 2013 #5
Oh Wow.. I enjoyed that.. hearing from Cha Feb 2013 #7
Also PatSeg Feb 2013 #13
Shuster's not at Current anymore? calimary Feb 2013 #9
He's on the radio in some places..... Grassy Knoll Feb 2013 #11
It's ,"Catching up . . ." another_liberal Feb 2013 #12
That was an excellent interview, great information. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #14
Fixed News' viewers are tuning out due to the credibility gap & the lower ratings pacalo Feb 2013 #15
Thanks. Good clip. nt valerief Feb 2013 #17

gateley

(62,683 posts)
4. I really think MSNBC made a mistake getting rid of Shuster. I wish they'd bring him back.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:26 PM
Feb 2013

And this is the second clip I've seen of David Pakman --he's good. I'll check him out. Thanks for posting!

dpakman91

(109 posts)
6. thanks!
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:53 PM
Feb 2013

Appreciate the support from DU, and we have some great paid members that are DU regulars, glad to have everyone's thoughts as always.

6502

(249 posts)
22. [Hi, Packman]=> Way to go missing the slow ball...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:39 AM
Feb 2013

The fellow you were interviewing said something there were shenanigans in Florida and that "both sides were doing it".

That was a perfect opportunity to follow up and ask the your "guest" to clarify and quantify what he meant when he said it.

Why didn't you do the simple follow-up?
That was a false equivalence slow pitch and you didn't swing it.

I mean, he essentially did something like saying,

"Yeah, there was lots of meat and fish at the banquette and both the vegetarians and non-vegetarians were eating meat."


Now, anybody who just read what I wrote immediately would say something like:

Why that doesn't make sense. The vegetarians I know that would even eat meat at a banquetee usually would have done so by total accident.


You see how I did that?
That's "false equivalence".
And I didn't just slow-ball it...
I walked this one right up to the batter.

And with nobody to call me on it, I just made it seem like there was a even split of vegetarians and omnivores eating meat at the banquette.

I hope to see you (heck, or anybody) actually hold people accountable for false equivalence crap.

Recently, I've heard stories that Soledad O'Brien, the lady on CNN, has been grabbing false-equivalence and weasel-words types by the throat and throttling them on air.

That takes guts.

At least call them out on "false equivalence" stuff.
And be merciless.

Mortos

(2,390 posts)
16. David Pakman has an excellent free podcast
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:12 PM
Feb 2013

I listen to him and my pretend girlfriend, Rachel Maddow, on the free Stitcher app. His show is really good, very calm and measured delivery.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
18. I've really enjoyed him when someone has posted a clip. Just subscribed
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:54 PM
Feb 2013

to his mailing list. I'll definitely check him out on the podcast!!

Cha

(297,314 posts)
7. Oh Wow.. I enjoyed that.. hearing from
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:34 PM
Feb 2013

David Shuster.. been awhile. Thanks celtics.

Yeah, he has it exactly right.. the difference between faux and msnbc is REALITY. As in msnbc is mostly dealing in reality and faux?.. Never.

I hadn't had a tv for a long time before getting one back in 1999. So, I checked out fox as a new adventure in "news" and it took me about 2 weeks to see what they were doing to Al Gore.. and, I banned them forever. Now look how far they've gone down the drain.

I don't even have a tv anymore.. love my laptop.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
13. Also
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:16 PM
Feb 2013

there are a lot of conservative voices on MSNBC. Morning Joe is more conservative than liberal most of the time.

calimary

(81,318 posts)
9. Shuster's not at Current anymore?
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:36 PM
Feb 2013

I lost track after Olbermann left there, and I haven't been paying much attention since then.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
11. He's on the radio in some places.....
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:52 PM
Feb 2013

and will do guest spots for Bill Press and Stephanie Miller on Current.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
12. It's ,"Catching up . . ."
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:14 PM
Feb 2013

The strategy of pushing a Right Wing agenda is, "Catching up with Fox News."

I would have said they are finally drowning in their own B.S. Before long, perhaps, Roger Ailes will be writing a tell-all book about his relationship with the Murdochs. (I'll buy it!)

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
14. That was an excellent interview, great information.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:16 PM
Feb 2013

After the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, I turned on Shep Smith every day at 5. His newscasts were the best. Smith is the only one on Fox I can stand to watch, his coverage of the inauguration was good too.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
15. Fixed News' viewers are tuning out due to the credibility gap & the lower ratings
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:42 PM
Feb 2013

indicate a longer-term shift. People want accurate information regardless of their pre-existing political views.



Good interview.




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