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Ian Iam

(386 posts)
12. Therefore.....
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:08 PM
Jan 2013

Mrs Hasselbeck has an even weaker "claim to fame" than the poster above thought.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
2. Hasselbeck-GOP zombie. When someone works in an embassy in a war-torn country, they know the dangers
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:05 PM
Jan 2013

When children go to school, they and their parents think they are absolutely safe. For the GOP schills to talk about this instance where 4 Americans were killed and poo-poo Newtown's massacre and 9/11 truth is ludicrious. Please, God, help us get these clowns out of office asap. They are so bad for this country. Hillary, you did great putting them in their places. You should have said on the way out, "ha, ha, healthcare passed" That wouldv'e even been better.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
4. Lizzy and many republicans must realize just because McCain was in a prisoner of
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jan 2013

war camp doesn't make him a saint. He isn't the only military man who served and knows everything. McCain needs to retire. He looks more foolish now then ever. Kerry was in combat on the ground and I think I would take his word as knowing allot about the military. The republicans don't want to know what happened there. To them this is a political game. Lizzy is one of those who march lock step without questioning. I wish they would get another person on the show that would at least make sense even if they don't agree on issues. She walks the Fox News line way to much.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
7. Her talking points are sent to her Fax machine every morning and then doesn't her
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jan 2013

friend Hannity call her from over at Faux and Frauds to make sure her little tiny brain is capable of repeating the clap trap... She doesn't know what the heck she's talking about. And most Americans understand its a bunch of crap, waste of time, and ginned up bs that distracts them from passing bills that help put Americans to work. 4 dead at a consulate in a recently upended country that is full of oil is probably relatively benign from what could have happened. AND the fact that the media did report on the situation of congress refusing State Dept security funding that was requested, and denied because the Republicans were trying there best to make Obama a 1 term President.

Honestly, if the Pukes were smart, they would have shut up about Benghazi after the elections were over. Its amazing how they are trying to make this Libya issue into a 9/11 without implying that 9/11 was Bush's and Pukes failure to prevent and then their diversion into Iraq with Cheney and the NeoCons at the helm of that sinking ship... Oh and how many times did Pukes refuse to actually swear in to testify so they wouldn't get caught lying on official record with their lies they planned on telling. AND what did ole' Harry do to get them in to testify in the first place, "write strongly worded letters".

Its such a farce. Our best bet is to get the money out of politics and build a base of real American Reps from the ground level... To run in everything from dog catcher to school boards. When it cost $7billion dollars to run the last elections, there is something very wrong with the system. The very institutions and bureaucracies that we wish to see changed insulate themselves by buying their very own special politicians. The Pukes go full monty into fascism and the Dems kinda pretend they are better by fixing the "social issues" of popularity of the day, and do a bit to prevent huge changes like the pukes are doing at the state levels, but they aren't really big into wanting to change the game.

And really, the people can see them. The best thing about the internet is that their lies are so easy to see and to catch them on (if you can get close enough to them, most in higher levels of govt have security insulating them from crack pots with guns). Its much harder to lie to your constituents about what you are doing and representing when instantly one can check what they are actually doing and voting on in Congress. And there are less "Fox Newsies" types of people. They may scream louder and have their channel turned on inside of businesses, but they don't have a large # of people actually really listening to their lies (the ship has sailed on their "Fair and Balanced" stick".

At some point we may actually have majority favorable opinion actually represent our laws. It will take replacing people who favor the truth and a lot of "free" ground work on citizen's parts to get it done....But when the 80% of this country would like to have a system of Medicare for All (basically a Canadian health care model), it may come to pass (the reason why the ACA wasn't as popular at the time of passing was because we didn't get the Public Option which many felt would sequester in the "Medicare for All" type of practice much quicker OR at least keep insurance groups, pharma, and hospital groups from gouging their normal profit making schemes off of our "wellness". Most people want to spend money on building up this country, getting a smart electrical grid with alt energy as the main power supplier, most people would like to see a paycheck that pays a living wage at least (and quite frankly pays enough to take a 4 wk vacation, have 1 or 2 wks of pd sick time, allows for at least 6 mo's of paid maternity & paternity leave, have a work week time out of the house reduced to be more conducive for family/ free time {otherwise what is the use of all the technology and productivity it has helped to increase, if it wasn't to allow people more time in their lives to enjoy living}, publicly funded daycare/ head start, K-12 good education {not teaching to a test}, and "free" access to public Universities/ tech training/ trade schools {some of which could actually be started when a kid turns 16 or 17 in their Junior year {much of the last 2 yrs in public school are kind of a waste for kids, many could be going into trades, taking college courses, and training for nursing or dental or hair or whatever a child is "called" to, and then making it easier to train for a different "life direction" when one is older and maybe wants a change or has their job become un-needed {like hopefully drilling for oil}). We won't see practical changes that make sense and allow for everyone to have a quality life experience that allows time, health, and love for being human... Corporations have literally stollen our humanity away from us (exclamation point made prominent by the Supreme Court).

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
8. Well I think the more they speak the more they show their asses. I wrote
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

my senator and told him how foolish they looked grilling Mrs Clinton. They were nothing but bullies. People are sick and tired.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
9. Yes they are and when things don't change for the better in their lives, they start
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jan 2013

tuning out, and going into "self-preservation" mode. Some go nutsy and prepare for "dooms day", other's find a way off the "grid" and live a secluded lifestyle... pretty much batten down the hatches.

And as much as everyone wants things to change for the better in the average person's life, people don't exactly want to go without technologies that we have now (which still takes money to acquire and utilize). Its not fair that so many have to be kept in a constant state of turmoil so the wealthy can insulate themselves and the "democracy" can protect them.

If the 2008 crash didn't get us a renewed New Deal, then what will? No one person can do it alone, and getting everyone to agree to a plan that will make things work is awfully hard, maybe because of technology and the media's use and spin of facts. AND then the govt works against people in trying to shut down any sort of change that most would like to see... case in point the very difference in dealing with Tea Baggers (dangerous, right-wing fanatics with weapons AND Occupy (mostly younger people camping out trying to find viable solutions for problems we face). One was brutally attacked in an all in out Govt/ Banking/ police state collusion and the other made their way into the halls of congress and onto TV talk shows.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
10. Yes we certainly need a new deal. Your also right about the rich can protect their democracy.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jan 2013

The teaparty republicans are to stupid to realize that they are being used by corporations and the rich. God forbid once lower middle class republicans start to figure it out then the republican party will lose the old white man vote.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
11. romantico, thanks for sharing the video.
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:17 PM
Jan 2013

I spend most of my time outside the TV world. I do adore both Whoopie and Barbara.

Hillary, imho, is not a bitch. She's a pragmatic politician with a leaning toward serving the best interests of The United States of America. It's a shame that Republicans are attacking someone from their own ranks.

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