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Peggy Noonan: Romney will win! (Original Post) woolldog Nov 2012 OP
Gold. Pure gold. ffr Nov 2012 #1
Man I hope HBO gets that in the movie. You are right. Pure Gold. grantcart Nov 2012 #14
"Yard Sign" Noonan nixonwasbetterthanW Nov 2012 #15
Obama voters were undercover LukeFL Nov 2012 #49
Could Peggy Nooner look any more smug? Counting on all the racists? Ya know what? brewens Nov 2012 #2
keep talking Botany Nov 2012 #3
Excellent. Thank you. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Nov 2012 #23
She makes me cringe... WCGreen Nov 2012 #4
Is she drunk? Dem2TheCore Nov 2012 #5
Nah. She's high on pharmaceuticals. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #9
Watching this brings waves of appreciation for DU as a news & analysis source/hub. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #6
Poor, Poor, PIGGY. Grassy Knoll Nov 2012 #7
I wonder if she cashed Politicalboi Nov 2012 #8
Oh my...wow! DianaForRussFeingold Nov 2012 #10
They really lost their minds over at Faux on Election night, They actually took a camera crew Heather MC Nov 2012 #48
"insufferable" does not begin to describe this hack nixonwasbetterthanW Nov 2012 #11
The answer for this fucking twit.... Aviation Pro Nov 2012 #12
I'd bet she sat down on the toilet at the end of the night and said tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #13
... Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #16
Mitt needed less blackdiamond62 Nov 2012 #38
Something.............going ..........on .....................out ..........there..duh. is crunch60 Nov 2012 #17
yeah girl, its still to close to call right? MFM008 Nov 2012 #18
Karl Roves election theft was in place INdemo Nov 2012 #19
Sign her and Scott Rassmissun up for the psychic friends hotline! Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #20
Psycho babble Uniblab Nov 2012 #21
"Ur Thought" nixonwasbetterthanW Nov 2012 #22
Oh rtracey Nov 2012 #24
nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk! marble falls Nov 2012 #25
My dream has come true finally to see this woman who is always delusional thinking the southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #26
I Suspect the Past Few Days Iggy Nov 2012 #27
Classic self-induced delusion, gut-feeling, (wishful thinking really) it's a mental disorder JackN415 Nov 2012 #28
Peggy Noonan soothsayer geefloyd46 Nov 2012 #29
How much money did you put, Peggy? I hope you bet the farm on him. But I knew you didn't. All talk JackN415 Nov 2012 #30
Wonder if she got a refund Riley18 Nov 2012 #31
Virtually everything you needed to know about Pegums Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #32
Noonan reminds me of Floyd the barber on the Andy Griffith Show, the way she talks bulloney Nov 2012 #33
Life in a bubble Peggy ... Life in a bubble... jimlup Nov 2012 #34
The hushed, self-imperious, Shatneresque stilted delivery lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #35
Howling with laughter wilt the stilt Nov 2012 #36
Seriously, for the sake of the nation.... at what point do you lose all credibility? aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #37
1:28 is the key Lars77 Nov 2012 #39
That was the exact point. JBoy Nov 2012 #53
Unfortunately, this type of delusion has infected all of MSM. olegramps Nov 2012 #40
Obama had the ground game ginnyinWI Nov 2012 #59
"something old is roaring back" heaven05 Nov 2012 #41
"forget the data, let's see what the humans are saying" Enrique Nov 2012 #42
Noonan! MrMickeysMom Nov 2012 #43
LOLOL! marew Nov 2012 #44
Let's keep this kicked for a year! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #45
If I never see nor hear that fucking ejbr Nov 2012 #46
Oh gawd...this is precious Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #47
when character was king JEFF9K Nov 2012 #50
stop it please - please stop the inane bloviating geckosfeet Nov 2012 #51
Republicans trusted their gut. Democrats went with the arithmetic of Nick Silver. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #52
LOL She said she's fascinated... Patrickster Nov 2012 #54
Peggy, you didn't even say you got it completely wrong this morning on the Sunday talk show. ffr Nov 2012 #55
Irony?? L0oniX Nov 2012 #56
they are so delusional Amaya Nov 2012 #57
priceless!..so she just has a "feeling" ie.. anecdotes inside the R-bubble.. real solid Peggy BREMPRO Nov 2012 #58
"I'd put my money on Romney" DFW Nov 2012 #60
lulz cash__whatiwant Nov 2012 #61
LMAOOOO outsideworld Nov 2012 #62

ffr

(22,671 posts)
1. Gold. Pure gold.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:13 AM
Nov 2012

So smug. So uninformed. It's as though the historic moment we're living through will bring much pain to people who are informed and do pay attention.

Gold I tell you!

nixonwasbetterthanW

(1,317 posts)
15. "Yard Sign" Noonan
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:35 AM
Nov 2012

As evidence of her candidate's impending victory, her final pre-election column talked about a proliferation of Romney yard signs in "tony Northwest Washington, D.C." That "observation" alone is enough to discredit anything she ever again claims, for eternity. There is not a single precinct in D.C. that gave Obama less than 85 percent. There's a point at which wishful thinking leads to unadulterated fabrication. Congrats, Peggy , on crossing that line!

LukeFL

(594 posts)
49. Obama voters were undercover
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:56 PM
Nov 2012

Supporters. Well, a lot of us Didn't need a yard sign and or a car sticker. I needed to vote. My entire Hispanic family are Obama supporters who turned to the polls on election day to vote.

I bet Noonan didnt count ppl like me.

brewens

(13,600 posts)
2. Could Peggy Nooner look any more smug? Counting on all the racists? Ya know what?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:14 AM
Nov 2012

They also hate them Mormons too!

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
4. She makes me cringe...
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:14 AM
Nov 2012

She has that affected tone about her that just makes me think of fingernails on a chalk board.

BouzoukiKing

(163 posts)
9. Nah. She's high on pharmaceuticals.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:05 AM
Nov 2012

Oxycodone maybe. An opiate or semi-synthetic opiate of some kind, almost certainly.

1950's suburban Connecticut advertising culture writ large. Some things never change...

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
6. Watching this brings waves of appreciation for DU as a news & analysis source/hub.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 02:25 AM
Nov 2012

It just boggles my mind that these people are so dumb.

It boggles (and I confess thrills) me that they all
believed Mitt would win up until the last moment.

I haven't any sympathy because I don't think they have
any self-awareness.

If they were shocked stunned and devastated by the loss,
it's a good thing. I think Peggy Noonan is right that
there was something going on with the American
people.. she just sorely misinterpreted it as being
stupidity.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
8. I wonder if she cashed
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 03:04 AM
Nov 2012

The check Rmoney paid her for that kiss ass interview before the concession speech? And she said the ONLY truth Rmoney said in all of his 6 years running. "I will not blame my predecessor".

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
48. They really lost their minds over at Faux on Election night, They actually took a camera crew
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:26 PM
Nov 2012

to the decision desk guys that's nuts what was she hoping they would take it back??? That would not have changed the reality that the President had won LOL
They are nuts. I wish the Desk had taken it back. Imagine all the Faux viewers believing Romney had won. In fact they can just continuing reporting for the next four years as if Romney is President it will keep the crazies from going nuts

nixonwasbetterthanW

(1,317 posts)
11. "insufferable" does not begin to describe this hack
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:14 AM
Nov 2012

I can remember Noonan from her Reagan speech writing days. She wrote the stirring words of comfort he uttered after the '86 space shuttle disaster. Disagree with her politics, sure, but she had a gift with the word.

But by ensconcing herself in the alternate reality that is the Fox bubble, she has transmogrified into a clueless and thoroughly uninformed and uninformative hack. She "feels" the crowd's enthusiasm at Romney rallies; does she even remember that same unscientifically quantified "surge" that was reported at the Mondale rallies in the campaign rallies immediately preceding his record landslide loss? She also wrote about "vibrations" and "sensing" good things. Lots of anecdotal nonsense.

Noonan and those other "educated," blindfold-wearing, self-deluded and self-styled psephologists like George F. Will and Michael Barone really need to get to know their country better in general. It might not be a bad idea too for them to consult with pollsters without the last name Rasmussen.

Noonan has on her own developed into what a social commentator or pundit fears most: thoroughly inconsequential. She has heaped yet one more shovelful onto the rising peak of Bullshit Mountain.

Should we not expect better from the conservative "thinkers"? If I were a Republican strategist and really wanted to win next time through sounding out my prospective constituency, I'd trade 10 Noonans for the thoughts of, say, a randomly selected independent-leaning woman from a Northeast or Midwest suburb. I don't think many such voters were at those last Romney rallies.

Aviation Pro

(12,172 posts)
12. The answer for this fucking twit....
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:44 AM
Nov 2012

.... Nate Fucking Silver

He's a bad motherfucker and roolz the sliderule.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
13. I'd bet she sat down on the toilet at the end of the night and said
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 05:09 AM
Nov 2012

'oh sh*t'


because those words just felt right at that moment

blackdiamond62

(24 posts)
38. Mitt needed less
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:32 AM
Nov 2012

"dynamism" and more votes Ms Noonan believed the hype of the parallel GOP universe but so did Gov. Romney and his campaign team.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
17. Something.............going ..........on .....................out ..........there..duh. is
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 06:54 AM
Nov 2012

she stoned? She has magic underwear ?

Uniblab

(25 posts)
21. Psycho babble
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 07:54 AM
Nov 2012
what can you say??? The video speaks for its self. They are so disillusioned and more and more people are catching on.

nixonwasbetterthanW

(1,317 posts)
22. "Ur Thought"
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
Nov 2012

The first minute or so of the video, after she's asked her impressions, she gives an exceedingly anodyne answer and wraps it up by saying how it's "fascinating" that people with whom she's acquainted (doormen? barstool buddies? Dick Morris?) "genuinely" don't know who's going to win. She calls her opening remark her "Ur Thought," as if to suggest there's some sort of fundament of profundity in her random, everyday musings. She might've left it at and looked almost reasonable if not especially keen or insightful. But for the next 3 minutes, given the rope of more airtime, she opts to hang herself in expanding the observation to suggest an unsupported "feeling" of a Romney wave.

"Ur Thought" or "er ... thought"?

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
24. Oh
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:15 AM
Nov 2012

Sorry Peggy, you arrogant piece of work, now she and all her little right wing friends, George Will, etc will go on ABC, Sunday and say " oh well, we got it wrong huh" ......yup you did

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
26. My dream has come true finally to see this woman who is always delusional thinking the
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:27 AM
Nov 2012

republicans are so peachy clean and now she is eating crow. I hope she chokes on it.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
27. I Suspect the Past Few Days
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:31 AM
Nov 2012

Ms. Noonan has been deep in a nice big bottle of Vodka.

I wonder if her typical high school-level editorial piece will appear in the Wall St. Journal today.

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
28. Classic self-induced delusion, gut-feeling, (wishful thinking really) it's a mental disorder
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:35 AM
Nov 2012

Americano-republicania

geefloyd46

(1,939 posts)
29. Peggy Noonan soothsayer
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:36 AM
Nov 2012

Romney is going to win....and I love you Ronnie Reagan. It's political analysis like that is how you qualify for the main stream media.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
33. Noonan reminds me of Floyd the barber on the Andy Griffith Show, the way she talks
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 09:51 AM
Nov 2012

all spaced out like she's on medication or something.

Oh look! There's a pile. A Goober Pyle! Ahhhhhh. Heyyyyy Annnnndyyyyyy!

lindysalsagal

(20,701 posts)
35. The hushed, self-imperious, Shatneresque stilted delivery
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:05 AM
Nov 2012

"Must...seem....im...por....tant...to some....one....."

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
36. Howling with laughter
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:22 AM
Nov 2012

God, I hate the she is part of my generation. We just came out and voted and kicked some ass. This is the most satisfying win in my life. she is so smug. I just love the they lost and were shocked by it.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
37. Seriously, for the sake of the nation.... at what point do you lose all credibility?
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:28 AM
Nov 2012


Even on FOX news?

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
39. 1:28 is the key
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:20 AM
Nov 2012

We have been overwhelmed by statistical data suggesting the president will win, but... Fuck that.

JBoy

(8,021 posts)
53. That was the exact point.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:42 PM
Nov 2012

"I decided to throw out all tha inconvenient objective evidence and go with my own feelings. Feelings I've gotten from talking to other white republicans that inhabit the same bubble I do."

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
40. Unfortunately, this type of delusion has infected all of MSM.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:28 AM
Nov 2012

Every article and pundit that I heard were saying how close this election was. They said that the young people won't come out to vote. They actually exceeded the last election turn out. They didn't take into account that the minorities would react to the Republicans' attempt to suppress the vote with renewed determination. It is simply a fact that the corporate owned media is only interested in revenue and their hacks will not say anything to alienate any segment. It would just be bad business.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
59. Obama had the ground game
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 01:40 AM
Nov 2012

I think that, plus early voting this time around, made a big difference. The Obama team went under the assumption that it would be a close race and looked for new voters everywhere.

The networks absolutely told their views what they wanted them to hear. Fox told theirs that Romney had it in the bag, and ABC-CBS-NBC told theirs that it was too close to call, neck-and-neck, a squeaker, etc etc.

But why is Bob Sheiffer still saying it? Why is he asking if Obama really has a mandate?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
41. "something old is roaring back"
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 11:46 AM
Nov 2012

yeah, racism, intolerance, feelings of white superiority. Is that what's roaring back in your mind peggy?

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
50. when character was king
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:05 PM
Nov 2012

Peggy Noonan wrote a book about a man who traveled to a tiny out-of-the-way town where civil-rights workers were murdered to announce his candidacy for the presidency. She called the book "When Character Was King."

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
52. Republicans trusted their gut. Democrats went with the arithmetic of Nick Silver.
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:32 PM
Nov 2012

It is a metaphor for how Democrats differ from Republicans on public policy.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
55. Peggy, you didn't even say you got it completely wrong this morning on the Sunday talk show.
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:26 PM
Nov 2012

That's okay. Let me show you how that whole 'er feeling thing played out for you.

BREMPRO

(2,331 posts)
58. priceless!..so she just has a "feeling" ie.. anecdotes inside the R-bubble.. real solid Peggy
Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:58 PM
Nov 2012

respects Rasmussen so much... fail...
her instincts... fail
her prediction...fail
her reputation... diminished

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