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Here's How Some Texans Are Trying To Ruin Science Books (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2012 OP
Blind, purposeless nothingness? Really? That's the only alternative to seeing exactly what you see, Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #1
"Purpose." That's the core of the conservative mindset. DetlefK Oct 2012 #3
Right. That's why they hate science/data/facts! Their failure to serve the RW purpose. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #14
The far left? oldironside Oct 2012 #2
The far left is all but extinct in the good ole USofA, isn't it? That's how the "center" keeps Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #15
Well, secondvariety Oct 2012 #4
it's what charter scools are designed to do break the public school system then when it's broken leftyohiolib Oct 2012 #6
Longer clip Coyotl Oct 2012 #5
Yup, I really puked my guts out, starting at 2:30 m:s into it when the awful prayer begins n/t progree Oct 2012 #12
Indeed, the Lord's will in "public education" is their goal Coyotl Oct 2012 #13
These people should all be committed to a mental institution. Or incarcerated in prison. AAO Oct 2012 #7
They're worse than the Taliban. xtraxritical Oct 2012 #8
this is unbelievable johnt_1956_55 Oct 2012 #9
These are the simpletons who will destroy America RVN VET Oct 2012 #10
Ignorance is key to control. JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #11
I used to be a public school teacher and I saw the efforts to destroy public education and I saw Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #16
Dunno, but the South is a net tax-eater, while most of the rest of the country is net tax-payers progree Oct 2012 #17

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
1. Blind, purposeless nothingness? Really? That's the only alternative to seeing exactly what you see,
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:13 AM
Oct 2012

Mr. Texas Taliban? Forget the southern border, this is the wall we need to (re)build. Get your damn church out of my state, you America-hating hypocrites.

And, it's not just the science books. They are reinventing history. Well, 1984 is late, but it's getting here.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. "Purpose." That's the core of the conservative mindset.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:27 AM
Oct 2012

Everything has purpose or must have purpose.

That's why they can't stand the thought of God not existing.

That's why they don't understand that science/data/facts are free of agenda.
To them, there's a global-warming conspiracy because they can't comprehend the fact that things just are the way they are.
There's Obama's birth-certificate conspiracy, because they can't comprehend that the new president has a different color of skin than usual.
And of course the job-number-truthers: Those statistics get written by humans, so they are made up.

To paraphrase Sigmund Freud: Sometimes data is just data.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
15. The far left is all but extinct in the good ole USofA, isn't it? That's how the "center" keeps
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:53 AM
Oct 2012

getting dragged farther and farther to the right.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
4. Well,
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:38 AM
Oct 2012

this seems like a ploy to get more public support for charter schools. What decent parent would want their child in a class that teaches science from the 12th century?

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
6. it's what charter scools are designed to do break the public school system then when it's broken
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:01 AM
Oct 2012

switch to their agenda which is whatever the 1% say it is.
ignorance kills

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. Indeed, the Lord's will in "public education" is their goal
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

The goal is to have everyone believe in their metaphysical delusion, and make education system is their private madrasa

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
8. They're worse than the Taliban.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:47 AM
Oct 2012

"My way or the highway" and to hell with the US Constitution. What a passel of myopic dolts. OBAMA/BIDEN/CONGRESS 2012

RVN VET

(492 posts)
10. These are the simpletons who will destroy America
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:17 PM
Oct 2012

They are not content with keeping their small minded and out-dated "faith" to themselves. They want to use it to destroy the advancement of knowledge, to make the very thought anathema.

And they are winning.

JohnnyRingo

(18,662 posts)
11. Ignorance is key to control.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:07 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:43 PM - Edit history (1)

I had someone tell me this summer that God is all around us. She referred to her front yard and said: "No one knows how that tree was created" as proof of the divine wonder of God's creation.

I responded that biologists know very well how a tree is created, and just because she doesn't understand something, it doesn't mean it's a mystery to the rest of us.

I then went off on my favorite rant about how Christians burned the ancient library at Alexandria and set mankind back 500 years because they feared science would conflict with their religion. Apparently they still fear that.

"If these book agree with the bible, we have no need for them. If they disagree, they must be destroyed".

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
16. I used to be a public school teacher and I saw the efforts to destroy public education and I saw
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:59 AM
Oct 2012

their purpose to be just as you say--control. Doesn't the South, which votes so strongly R, have some of the most poorly educated people overall?

progree

(10,924 posts)
17. Dunno, but the South is a net tax-eater, while most of the rest of the country is net tax-payers
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 11:27 PM
Oct 2012
[font size=3, color=blue]{#} Red states take more tax dollars than blue states[/font]

Excerpts from: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-18/politics/30039546_1_blue-states-federal-taxes-red-states

Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.

Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Here are the top twenty "welfare queen" states:

New Mexico: $2.03
Mississippi: $2.02
Alaska: $1.84
Louisiana: $1.78
West Virginia: $1.76
North Dakota: $1.68
Alabama: $1.66
South Dakota: $1.53
Kentucky: $1.51
Virginia: $1.51
Montana: $1.47
Hawaii: $1.44
Maine: $1.41
Arkansas: $1.41
Oklahoma: $1.36
South Carolina: $1.35
Missouri: $1.32
Maryland: $1.30
Tennessee: $1.27
Idaho: $1.21

...

[font size=3, color=blue]{#} 20 of the 22 states with the highest proportion of non-federal-income-tax-payers are Republican states (notice the "solid South&quot [/font]

Non-federal-income-tax-payers are also known as the "47 percenters", after Romney's infamous answer to wealthy donors about the 47% who paid no taxes (actually, Mitt, who paid no federal INCOME taxes -- they pay a whole bunch of other taxes).



#1 thru #10 - see red-colored states on map

In the below, "Repub" means Republican-voting in the 2004 presidential election (Bush v. Kerry), and "Dem" means Democratic-voting in that election. I wanted to use "red" and "blue" terminology, but that conflicts with the colors on the map.

#11 thru #15: Tennessee, N. Carolina, Utah, Arizona, Kentucky

All Repub states, generally speaking. Utah #13. Idaho #10, LOL - the only top-ten state in the geographic north -- I used to live there.

#16 - California (sigh, that's Dem.), #17-Oklahoma, #18-Montana, #19-Indiana #20-Michigan (Dem), #21-Missouri #22-W.Virginia #23-New York (Dem)

Anyway, of the top 22, only California (#16) and Michigan (#20) are Dem states based on the 2004 presidential election. (And likewise in the 2000 presidential election except that New Mexico (#4) was Dem in 2000 and Repub in 2004).

(In 2008, of the top 22, Florida, North Carolina, Indiana, New Mexico went "Dem", i.e. for Obama, while California and Michigan stayed Dem for a total of 6 Dem states by this definition)

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