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(1,663 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Lots of horror stories.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)start,many of the 11-14 year olds are questioning this cult. The I-phone is the down fall of this cult.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)David (newcarabu) can be a bit wacky (he's bipolar) at times, but he has some good insights and information.
littlemissmartypants
(22,797 posts)toby jo
(1,269 posts)But - I think she's better off. She managed better than Mitty. Sincere lady.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I don't get religion. I never will.
The latter-day saints should have taken a page from the playbook of the earlier-day saints and avoided putting a timeframe on their prophesies.
The CCC
(463 posts)They didn't put a time frame.
Joseph Smith apparently expressed a strongly-held personal opinion. Where did he get the idea that fifty-six years might bring the second coming? He said:
I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following:
Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter.
I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. I believe the coming of the son of Man will not be any sooner than that time.
CthulhusEvilCousin
(209 posts)the Bible did put a timeline on certain prophecies, though it uses prophetic language. For example, Daniel 9:
Dan 9:24-27 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. (25) Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. (26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. (27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
This was during the Babylonian captivity, and thus the timeline begins with the reconstruction of Jerusalem. Of course, it doesn't work if it's literal weeks, but it does if you see it as years. Christ, speaking of this prophecy, also said that "this generation shall not pass away till all things that are written are fulfilled" when He had told the Apostles the temple would be utterly destroyed. That was where Smith got his parody as mentioned in the video regarding the Mormon temple.
Josephus' The Jewish War contains a detailed history of the events leading up to the destruction of the temple in 70ad. It's worth noting that the war lasted 7 years:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish-Roman_War
Tikki
(14,559 posts)Tikki