Avoid These Places to Protect Yourself From Virus,CNN: 5/13/20 ,7:21, please watch entire video.

[Stuart G]

worth watching to learn the basics.

[Squinch]

1. So we need to avoid our home, our workplace, public transportation, social gatherings and

restaurants.

Also we shouldn't talk while we are inside any of these places. Or breathe.

That's... not making me feel better.

[Stuart G]

2. The biologist does not talk about."home".He talks about gatherings of people & air ciruculation Also

he talks about "enclosed spaces" (like churches, theaters, etc)

[Squinch]

3. "Home" was in the list in the beginning of the video of places where the virus

most easily spreads.

Basically, what he is saying is that the virus most easily spreads in the places and conditions where most of us spend most of our time.

[Stuart G]

4. CNN host says, "I am going to leave home out of this"..the professor then discusses other places..

If you watch the video...the host says this at about 39 seconds into the video.

[Squinch]

7. Yes, I know that. I did watch the video. But the professor is

advising us to avoid the places and conditions that most of us are in most of the time.

He says walk away from these places. If you work in a school, how do you avoid "loud" places with lots of people in them?

If you work in a high rise or a hospital or a store, how do you avoid places with recirculated air and a high concentration of people and few barriers to the movement of air?

If you take mass transit to work, how do you avoid being in a place with recirculated air with no barriers and lots of people breathing and talking?

These are not avoidable conditions for many, many people, myself included.

[Stuart G]

11. Perhaps the point is also, "protect yourself" if you cannot avoid. Like Grocery Stores...

I was in one a few days ago, and almost everyone wears a mask. You put gloves on, protect your face, wash your hands & face often. Bring extra gloves to where you have to be. I understand what you are saying. If you have a job, & must be there, how do you avoid it?.
....Or take public transportation..how do you avoid it?...I suspect the answer is to protect yourself as best you can, and plan ahead. Say you are on public transportation for 45 minutes..Maybe one can travel earlier when there are not that many on the mass transit... Or some other arrangement if possible. Like if there are transit cars, maybe in the last car, if there are many cars, or whatever car is safer & less crowded.. I am not sure there is an answer, but protecting oneself is part of the answer..I wish I knew the rest of the answer, but I do not. I just post articles on Democratic Underground and discuss them the best I can.

[Squinch]

12. Yes, of course. People should protect themselves against this virus.

But your video indicates that, when things open up, most of us really cannot adequately protect ourselves against this virus.

[intheflow]

14. That is a correct and scientifically valid conclusion.

This is why it's called a pandemic. It's impossible to be 100% sure you're not coming into contact with it if you or people you live with leave your home. This is something we've known from the onset. We can take a zillion precautions, wash our hands, and limit person-to-person transmission as much as humanly possible, but we won't really be safe until there's a vaccine, or it runs it course and a herd immunity develops (if survivors are even immune to it, and that's at least 6 months out, maybe a year). This is why sane people are talking about giving people a basic income during this, and suspending rent and mortgages. It's not safe to reopen anything. Why are you surprised by this?

[Squinch]

15. What makes you think I am surprised by this?

[intheflow]

19. Your post I replied to sounds like you dispute the professor's conclusions.

But my bad if I misunderstood.

We're all living through this pandemic together AND we're all living through our own individual pandemic hells. I'm a children's librarian. Do you know how many toddlers I have to pick up a week because their parents are playing on their phones on the other end of room while their babies make a run for the door? But they're still saying we're "opening soon", at least with curbside pick-up. (The difference between curbside at restaurants and libraries is that no one returns their dirty dishes to a restaurant.) As it is, I have to go into my building two days a week and sit in a cube farm with 10 other librarians. I'm pretty scared to go back to work with the public so my lens is to educate, educate, educate everyone about what this really means for the long term, a promote solutions to keep the library from reopening.

[AdamGG]

17. I question the value of gloves

If you're careful not to touch your face, touch as little as possible while out (I've used my elbow for doorbells & elevator buttons), and then seriously wash your hands with lots of soap when getting back to safe environment, that should be as good as gloves. The gloves would be useful if you don't have a chance for some reason, then you could peel them off and throw them out, but you have to be very careful not to touch them.

[LizBeth]

6. Home is there because the son or daughter, father or mother are out and about getting the virus then

giving it to family, even while "isolating". Or friends or family come over for visits. My home space is at 0 threat because nothing comes in without disinfectant and I do not go out.

[BigmanPigman]

22. That is exactly what the doctor is saying

and makes sense if you think about it longer than a nanosecond.

If you are healthy and chose to live alone before this all started, than staying in your home is one of the safest places you could find these days (just don't let anyone else in). It sure beats struggling for air in a hospital hallway.

[rocktivity]

18. What we need to avoid are the people who are spreading the virus but don't know they're doing it

because they are either asymptomatic or symptomatic but aren't feeling sick.

Which we can do with a comprehensive system of regular mass testing, proper quarantining, and swift contact tracing. Until there's a vaccine, antidote, or cure, moving the infected out of our homes, workplaces and public gatherings is the only way to stop the spread.

https://yourhhrsnews.com/nj-mass-covid-test


rocktivity

[LizBeth]

5. Other than airlines and Hospitals, my job is the very worse. Even than stores.

Hotel that takes a lot of Ca and Wa, Chinese and Europeans because we sit right at the place in Oregon, many come to because central to tourist spots. 2 to 3 ft from each other in checkin. 50-100 a shift. Small lobby space and no ventilation. During summer vacations.

I am just dreading being called back. As a 60 yr old, totally on my own that even if I simply get sick puts me in a tough place because I have no one to help, ... I don't see it.

[Submariner]

9. You'd probably be safer pulling crab pots in the Bering Sea on "Deadliest Catch"

than working that lobby space until a working vaccine is developed. Stay safe.

[intheflow]

16. I'm so sorry.

Do you have plexiglas shields at the counter at least, or are you getting them? Does your employer give you PPE to wear?

[marybourg]

21. Your employer should be putting in plexiglass

screens between the desk clerk and the guests.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

8. My Nail Salon is spacious and clean at all times.

The nail stations are far enough apart. As are the pedicure chairs. The techs all wear gloves and masks anyway. I have no fear getting my nails done, which need it badly, as I have ruined 2. They will grow back soon enough.

[qazplm135]

10. I assume this includes grocery stores?

I mean the only truly safe places is alone and isolated from other people, or a small group is continually isolates from other people.

Anything else is going to by necessity increase your risk. The question is at what point do you have to increase the risk to work or shop for food or whatnot?

[IronLionZion]

13. 5:45 they start talking about grocery stores

with common sense advice that shouldn't be new to anyone here since we've been on lockdown for 2 months.

[marybourg]

20. Everyone has to decide that for themselves

within the limitations imposed by their state’s rules. For instance, I wouldn’t even consider going to an indoor salon to have my nails or hair done, even though they’re open in my state, but I will sit on my neighbor’s patio, suitably distanced, and chat for 10 or 15 minutes once in a while. Hair and nails mean nothing to me. Neighbors mean something. That’s me. You’re you.

[BigmanPigman]

23. People are not comprehending this simple concept...

"...the only truly safe places is alone and isolated from other people, or a small group is continually isolates from other people".

I think they do not WANT to comprehend it since it means they are...
1. In danger just about everywhere there are any other people present and they can't handle the scary truth.
2. It means that they will have to change their lifestyle and are unwilling to do that to either protect others or themselves (they simply must have their hair cut or their world will come to an end).