America Wrongest Man - D'Souza

[Mnpaul]

Just saw this in the comments over at Mediate in the Maher smackdown. It sounds like the guy is going to continue to pick him apart piece by piece. Great job.

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[ashling]

1. D'Souza is adept at only one thing

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He is accomplished in his total development of pro-active ignorance

[regnaD kciN]

2. He's known as "Distort D'Newza" for a reason...

[DeSwiss]

3. D'Souza's an idiot and a third-rate hack.

''Not to enlighten one who can be enlightened is to waste a man.
To endeavor to enlighten one who cannot be enlightened is to waste words.
A wise man wastes neither men nor words.''

~Confucius

[longship]

4. D'Souza is no idiot

He is educated and an expert debater, or at least about as good as his ilk are. (William Lane Craig is probably better.)

But Dinesh is a religious apologist, nothing more, nothing less. These people use their education entirely for the warped purpose to prove:

A) That God of the Bible really exists.

B) That the Bible is entirely and literally true.

Any argument to the contrary fails these two tests, and therefore is wrong.

I know that this begs the question, but that is the fallacious framework in which these guys work -- yes, apologetics is a man's club.

The most important thing to realize about D'Souza and others like him (Craig, too) is that they are incredibly dishonest. In spite of the fact that he's been informed that he is making misstatements (to be charitable) or outright falsehoods, he never changes his claims. The ends dictate the means to that end. The lies are just part of the process, again justified by A and B above. Nothing else matters.

He is also a creationist.
Fuck Dinesh D'Souza.

[heaven05]

5. pure

rightwing-nut

[Bucky]

8. If he's not an idiot, then he's a deliberate liar.

I'm comfortable with that description.

[RLP1862]

6. Bill Maher

took him down hard. Boiled him into nothingness.

[RLP1862]

7. On Real Time

[lolly]

9. As others have noted, D'Souza's book is more about his own irrational rage than anybody else's.

D'Souza's family was a member of the colonial/administrative class during British colonial rule in India. As such, they enjoyed status, privilege, prestige, and income beyond what other Indians enjoyed under British rule.

When the British left, they lost all that. To make matters worse, they faced the resentment of their countrymen.

The result was bitter resentment against the end of colonialism. Long after Britain itself stopped harboring any nostalgia for colonialism, these folks still carry the torch for the good old days, and resent the "natives" who chased the imperialists out.

With that in mind, D'Souza's obsession with the perfidy of "anti-colonialists," irrational and anachronistic as it sounds, makes sense.

[SunSeeker]

10. Interesting insight. So why doesn't he live in Britain? WTF is he doing in the U.S.?

I'd like to know how the hell D'Souza got his green card, let alone citizenship.

The reason we have so much illegal immigration in this country is because it is nearly impossible to legally get a green card. There is a stingy quota set for each country and the amount of people who apply vastly outnumbers those slots. Then your only options, other than coming here illegally, are (1) marry an American or (2) develop an important skill unfilled by Americans that an American company needs and will hire you for or (3) win one of the few "lottery" slots.

[lolly]

11. I think he came over as a teenager

With his parents. He went to college here (Dartmouth? Rutgers?).

Even in college, he was a professional right-wing liar and prick.

He had some sort of position in a Republican administration right out of college, either Reagan or Bush I?

So, US was his parents' choice. Maybe they thought the US was more fertile ground for right wing religious nuts than the UK. They were probably right.