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EarlG

(21,969 posts)
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 12:17 PM Apr 2019

Pic Of The Moment: And Now, The Results Of Trump's Only Significant Legislative "Accomplishment"

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Workers barely benefited from Trump's sweeping tax cut, investigation shows


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Pic Of The Moment: And Now, The Results Of Trump's Only Significant Legislative "Accomplishment" (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2019 OP
Math is hard underpants Apr 2019 #1
Fake Math! tclambert Apr 2019 #17
K&R Gothmog Apr 2019 #2
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2019 #3
They did it on purpose IronLionZion Apr 2019 #4
Promises made promises kept watoos Apr 2019 #5
K&R gademocrat7 Apr 2019 #6
That $4,000 promise needs to be shouted from the rooftops in the campaign. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #7
K&R. nt Ilsa Apr 2019 #8
Math not correct infullview Apr 2019 #9
I didn't do the math myself EarlG Apr 2019 #10
FY 2016 Budget Deficit - $534 Billion DallasNE Apr 2019 #11
There is a reason the deficit projections are not linear... Kensan Apr 2019 #14
The Flaw In My Projection DallasNE Apr 2019 #15
k & r n/t They_Live Apr 2019 #12
During my workout this afternoon, I had MSNBC on the elliptical's screen Fritz Walter Apr 2019 #13
Surprise surprise Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #16
And the con artist keeps marching on apkhgp Apr 2019 #18

underpants

(182,911 posts)
1. Math is hard
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019

Trump Just Flunked Another Math Test
If 17x6=1,112, then the president could be right about economic growth.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-06-05/trump-just-flunked-another-math-test

Back in 2006, the radio host Howard Stern gave Donald Trump, his daughter Ivanka and his son Donald Jr. a little on-the-air math test that's worth recalling on a day when Trump is tossing around a curious number.

"You went to the Wharton School of Business?" Stern asked Donald Jr.
Yes said Jr.
“What's 17 times 6?"

What is it? Do you need a calculator?" she inquired, chuckling.

"96?" Donald Jr. asked, taking stabs at answers. "94?"

"Wrong," Stern said. "Wrong!"

It's 1,112," Trump said, pronouncing his answer "eleven-twelve." He nodded confidently toward Stern, missing the correct answer, 102, by 1,010.

IronLionZion

(45,542 posts)
4. They did it on purpose
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 01:15 PM
Apr 2019

Most of those wealthy assholes knew their stocks would be lifted with buybacks so they've sold high and taken the profits. They do the same thing with dipshit's tariffs and trade deals.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. That $4,000 promise needs to be shouted from the rooftops in the campaign.
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 01:44 PM
Apr 2019

I didn't remember that at all. And that surely didn't happen for most Americans.

infullview

(982 posts)
9. Math not correct
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:12 PM
Apr 2019

If the average paycheck rose by $6.21 the yearly increase is $322 per year. Lysdexic much? I am, so don't feel like you have to respond.

Edit update:My apologies to the OP. This is exactly as quoted in the Guardian. Last time I checked though, 6.21x52=322.92

EarlG

(21,969 posts)
10. I didn't do the math myself
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:16 PM
Apr 2019

I took the data from the Guardian article, but it looks like they made a typo: "In the first three months after the bill passed, the average weekly paycheck rose by $6.21. That would be $233 a year."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/30/trump-tax-cut-law-investigation-worker-benefits

$6.21 x 52 is indeed $322 ($322.92). I will correct the graphic.

Update: graphic is corrected.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
11. FY 2016 Budget Deficit - $534 Billion
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:21 PM
Apr 2019

The Trump tax cuts started mid-FY 2018 so FY 2019 is the first full year of the Trump tax cuts. FY 2019 is now projected to have a deficit of just over $1 trillion and trend higher in the out years. That projects out to be a 10 year increase of more like $4 trillion than $1.5. And if there is a single recession in that period then it will be even higher than the $4 trillion - perhaps $6 trillion or more. Those numbers are mind boggling.

Kensan

(180 posts)
14. There is a reason the deficit projections are not linear...
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 03:53 PM
Apr 2019

There are several provisions in the tax code that are set to expire. Others have a stagnated phase-out that slowly decreases the tax cost (like the accelerated bonus depreciation rules).

That is why over a 10-year span, the deficit isn’t projected to be $10 trillion. It will definitely be more than the $1.5 trillion, which was how they could use the reconciliation procedures to pass it. The magic of dynamic scoring lets them get away with assuming the tax cuts will cause a massive stimulus to the economy that generates growth of 4% or more. Pure nonsense.

I would guess this bill will ultimately cost somewhere around $2.2-2.5 trillion. That’s far above the $1.5T they tossed around in the press releases. Add the tariff wars and withdrawing from trade agreements to the mix, and Trump is just an economical nightmare. King Midas, if everything he touched turned to shit.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
15. The Flaw In My Projection
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 04:30 PM
Apr 2019

Is that you can't assign all of the deficit problems on the tax cuts. Spending increases, especially in the defense budget, make up a sizable chunk of the deficit increase too. That pretty much makes up the difference between my $4 trillion estimate and your estimate that is correctly limited to the effect of the tax cuts. My bad. But I understand that much of the GOP "magic" comes from gimmicks like dynamic scoring and chained indexing on inflation.

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
13. During my workout this afternoon, I had MSNBC on the elliptical's screen
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 02:49 PM
Apr 2019

They were talking about a $1 Trillion plan for infrastructure, and the big question is: where's that money going to come from?

I almost fell off the machine when they mentioned a gasoline tax, which is hardest on working people. Talk about adding insult to injury!


But I shouldn't get too worked up over it. Yertle McConnell is opposed to any spending on roads, rails, etc. that doesn't line his pockets, or those of his donors.

apkhgp

(1,068 posts)
18. And the con artist keeps marching on
Tue Apr 30, 2019, 09:15 PM
Apr 2019

Until he gets kicked out of OUR White House. With enough humiliation to make him go into hiding.

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