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MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
1. This appears to be yet another atempt to paint adoptive parents with a very negative brush.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:15 PM
Aug 2012

Sorry, not gonna happen!

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
3. Again, this issue is not about adoptive parents
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:28 PM
Aug 2012

Horrific crimes have been committed against women and children yet you can only think of yourself? I walked on eggs shells my entire life to spare the feelings of my adoptive parents, and lost me in the process. I'm almost fifty years old now and I'm done bowing in submission to adoptive families who when exposed to the truth of the adoption industry lash out at the industry's victims rather than considering the horror of what many of us are going through.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Forcing women to go to term and give their babies up for adoption was SOP before Roe vs. Wade and
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:58 PM
Aug 2012

The advent of social services for unwed mothers. The religious right and the GOP wants that era returned and are working on it in every state. They have attacked child labor laws, single mothers, said that rather than go on assistance that women should stay in abusive relationships.

They have enacted laws to prevent choice even in cases of rape, incest or the mother's death, stood in favor of forced marriages, defunded battered women's and rape crisis centers, fought the morning after pill, reduced women to the role of birthing surrogates by their laws. There is an emotional impact that they disregard totally, but then, no one asks a piece of livestock their opinion on artifical insemination, either.

At the same time, they cut the choice for poor women to keep their children by denying them and their children the necessities of life, reducing poor mothers and children to the position of commodities to be traded to the rich. Or if unwanted, their polices cause children to die by cutting Medicaid, welfare, food stamps and school lunche and breakfast programs which is sometimes all that these children get to eat.

Some of those children in the past in forced adoptions, and now, were not from unwed mothers but from poor families. Many native children were taken from their birth families. There was a big scandal in Canada regarding these children, many of whom did not survive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system#Mortality_rates

I know two such instances in the USA personally. They did not end up in loving homes, but were used as cheap labor, a common enough thing in the days of orphanages and broken families over a hundred years ago and before that. Knowing they had been traded against their parents' will, cut off from their ancestors and given to families who used them, had terrible impact on their lives.

The social safety usually preserves birth families. By supporting family planning including the right to choose to bear or to abort was supported as it was in social democracies, not for religious belief but for social cohesion.

People might want to watch and observe the pressures put on young mothers especially in the name of religion. If a woman goes to them for help, they will pressure her for adoption. I know of a mother whose spouse left her and needed help and sought it from these charities. She didn't have the money to pay for medical care and delivery and needed emotional support. When we contacted the church agencies they were frank. If the young lady did not agree to surrender her child for adoption, she would get no help, period. Which sounds like a scam to me.


JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. True. Nowadays, people who adopt can have open adoptions
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:24 PM
Aug 2012

in which the birth mother can have contact with the child.

A lot of adopted children wonder about what life would have been had they lived with their "real" father or mother.

Adoptive parents can be wonderful, but the child who loves the adoptive parents may still want to connect to his/her roots. I know of such a case. The child was deeply disappointed to discover that his father died before the child could find him.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
6. I was horrified when watching the disaster in Haiti to learn about their adoption mill
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:28 PM
Aug 2012

Poor women there are pressured to give up their children to be used as cheap labor. When I saw just how many of these rw religious groups had their tentacles in the system there it made me sad beyond belief. Horrifying.

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