Bernie Sanders: Senate Republicans just passed their tax reform bill. What an utter disgrace.

[Donkees]

Published on Dec 19, 2017

[yuiyoshida]

1. Bernie you should know by now Donald Trump is all for Looting the United States Treasury

and giving it to his rich campaign donors. Nothing and I repeat, Nothing he says can ever be Trusted by anyone. He would sooner Knife his Fellow Republicans in the back if the FBI came down on him like a ton of bricks, and I hope they do. Trump sold this country out to Russians and to his Rich, Rich base. But you know, he is greedy. If he could, he would walk into Fort Knox and steal every bar of gold there and pass out a few to his buddies. Hell, he might even give some to his BELOVED Vladimir Putin.

[The Wielding Truth]

4. Okay, so you agree.

[The Wielding Truth]

2. He would have been a very good POTUS or VP. He works for us.

[ehrnst]

3. I think he does better as a gadfly.

Gadflys don't have to work with people in teams or have diplomatic skills to do what they do best.

Executive office requires different skills than Bernie has. I don't think he'd accept a VP offer. He has far more power to change things as a Senator.

[The Wielding Truth]

5. He is far from a gadfly. He is maybe more of a leader than a follower.

I'll give you that.

[ehrnst]

6. I think he is exactly a gadfly. He is a loner more than a team player.

That's one characteristic of a gadfly.

I think that's why he's an independent. Political parties are a team. Democrats as a party are about various coalitions working together towards a goal. To make that happen, you must listen to people, and learn from their experiences.

Bernie considers people who disagree with him at all to be wrong, or worse. That's not conducive to leading a party, let alone a country.

At least as a Democrat.

[The Wielding Truth]

7. Gee. Study him a little and you will see that he respects others but he has a huge

turn around to do in this country and he is doing his best to spearhead it. I guess they called Socrates a gadfly too at one point to degrade him at his trial.

[ehrnst]

9. Gee, I have studied him. That is where my observations come from.

And BTW, Socrates refused to pursue conventional politics; he often stated he could not look into other's matters or tell people how to live their lives when he did not yet understand how to live his own.

So there's that.

You seem to consider gadfly an insult. Why?

Plato in his Apology for the life of Socrates reminds us that all societies need a “gadfly” to sting the “steed” of state into acknowledging its proper duties and obligations.

Bernie is not known for respecting views that differ from his. He has been described by progressive colleagues as viewing dissent from his ideas as an indication of corruption. This is not a problem for an activist, but it is for a career politician. But a majority of his constituents voted for him, and what they think of their representative in election years is what matters in terms of his remaining a career politician.

[Demit]

11. HE has a huge turnaround to do in this country? HE?

That is exactly the problem with a person like Bernie Sanders. He can only lecture at, when he really needs to work with.

[The Wielding Truth]

12. That was my phrasing not his. Working together is the only way to run a democracy.

I would presume we all know that. Why are there those who want to view him as and egotistical guy when he is just working hard for all of us.

[chwaliszewski]

8. Love me some Bernie!

[FailureToCommunicate]

10. Utter disgrace for sure. Let's hope -and insure- this comes back to haunt each and

every one of those Republican ghouls.

[tomhagen]

13. Anybody in this room expect trump to keep his word???