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Published on Jul 22, 2012 by vigilantchannel
The man who forced the government of Iceland to resign and kicked out the IMF representatives from his country, Hordur Torfarson, is now teaching meta-modern democracy throughout Europe.The rest of the world would benefit from following the example set by Iceland: Arresting the corrupt bankers who are responsible for the current economic turmoil.
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The financial crash in Iceland in 6 minutes according to ABC´s 20/20. (Youtube)
Iceland economic crisis documentary (Youtube)
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The true measure of the leader is not how many follower he has, but how many leaders he creates. Too many people hold the idea that psychopaths are essentially killers or convicts. The general public hasn't been educated to see beyond the social stereotypes to understand that psychopaths can be entrepreneurs, politicians, CEOs and other successful individuals who may never see the inside of a prison.
The difference between bankers and the mafia is becoming increasingly indistinguishable. ''Mastering others is strength,mastering yourself makes you fearless.''
Control Your Money or Your Money Will Control You Change your attitude toward debt. Every time you use credit for a purchase think,"Debt is slavery; I am making myself a slave."
"Manipulators rarely advise you to seek new and diverse information or to 'learn and research for yourself,' it tends to be safer for exploitative and irresponsible leaders to keep their citizens in the dark; in their view less independent thought is better. Independent thought leads to an inquiring mind, a mindset that eventually leads to the questioning of authority figures, and that is the one thing that inadequate leaders do not want."
Governments have never existed to solve problems domestic or international. Governments and their institutions exist merely to further and secure the interests of favored groups, but We the People are never the favored group.
Magna Est Veritas Et Praevalebit
mother earth
(6,002 posts)Control Your Money or Your Money Will Control You Change your attitude toward debt. Every time you use credit for a purchase think,"Debt is slavery; I am making myself a slave."
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Yep, that's capitalism, that's efficiency for you.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But so very right....K&R
''When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the systems game. The establishment will irritate you pull your beard, flick your face to make you fight. Because once theyve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they dont know how to handle is non-violence and humor.'' ~John Lennon
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...this man (of non-violence) is unknown to Americans is because we've normalized violence into almost every aspect of the culture. We have been programmed to not only expect it, but to be disappointed when it doesn't occur. For example, the concept of ''The Mean World'' isn't some kind of natural phenomenon but rather it is a specific program which is designed to manipulate natural human responses in such a way as to gain control over its victims. And then to use that power to dictate (generate) public opinion and to enrich and grant more power to the controllers (the Patriot Act is one example of this). That is why money has become the life-blood of the political system today, and is also why this corrupted system will never serve the people since it does not require their input. It can create whatever ''public opinion'' it needs to justify its ever-increasing subjugation of the citizenry.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)I have witnessed it being slowly implemented over my lifetime.
The clearest example of it to me was the TV show called 24...where they provided the excuse and justification for torturing people...shamelessly....and the Bush tortures not only got away with it but became heroes to the right wing.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)citizens, and still is lionized by the vast majority of the so-called left. The violence of the state is commiserate with, and the source of, the violence of the society.
If the jury have no right to judge of the justice of a law of the government, they plainly can do nothing to protect the people against the oppressions of the government; for there are no oppressions which the government may not authorize by law.
Lysander Spooner
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Because even if he was a saint much wold remain the same....the president does not have the power we think he does.
Jimmy Carter said as much in an interview where he was asked what surprised him most about the presidency and he said "how little power he had"...and you know Carter has an expressive face and you could see it in his eyes he meant it like that.
I think the presidency was captured long ago...when they shot JFK...that was a demonstration for all future presidents.
sometimes they need reminding like whey Jessy Helms said Clinton better not come down to any military base in NC...And I think Bill got the hint.
I am sure they laid it all plane for Obama if he is not "one of them" and I think he is not....let's face it...they have his whole family captured in the White House under govenrment control...and he don't control it.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...knew exactly what he was talking about when he called teevee ''a vast wasteland.'' He saw it early on and tried to warn us. Just as Ike tried to warn us about the eventual police state -- the one that we now have -- but many still refuse to accept the truth of it.
We kept waiting for an onslaught of heightened hysteria accompanied by the dramatic arrival of the police state like in the movies. But we didn't wake up one morning and find black-suited police all over the place. Because we already had them in-place and we they are there right now. They were eased into place in full view, and we accepted it all because we were taught by the teevee to be afraid and to demand security. And that our enemies (whomever they are) be crushed, and we didn't care how many of our rights it cost us. Just so long and we were still free to drink our HFCS sodas and to eat our Chick-fil-A GMO-raised chicken samiches. We were good with it all.
- We rarely listen to the warners or their warnings......
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)populations had historically. Eg, the German people could reasonably claim they did not know much of what was going on as information was not as available as it is today. But we have no excuse, and history will not be kind to this era when it is finally written.
Good post btw.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But it is something I have understood for years now...but I wonder what Newton Minow would think about TV today?
But I don't think you and I would disagree much about the effect of it on our society.
Probably the most effective revolutionary act we could do to save this country is to somehow destroy TV...it is most certainly harmful to children if you want them to grow up with a soul and a heart.
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)by the very people who screwed things up in the first place?
In a sane world there would have been mass arrests of people on Wall Street and people in media like the idiots at CNBC would be kicked off the air for refusing to do their damn job and actually confront a CEO instead of being honored to have them on to spew their lies.
Instead, those are the very people that are taken seriously as the "experts" America needs to listen to.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)I'm glad you raise this point because I stopped asking sometime ago since no one wants to give it a go. We keep sending the same nincompoops in who created the problems, to straighten them out.
- There are few aspects of our lives that I know of where we would continue to do this. Over and over again.....
~Terence McKenna, "Dreaming Awake at the End of Time"
Citizen Worker
(1,785 posts)doesn't seem to be anybody here in a policy making position that understands the problem but there are plenty of everyday folks who do. The "rule of law" has been on holiday for at least 30 years now.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...collapse of the present financial system will have to happen at some point. This corrupt system will never leave the stage of its on accord, its must be hasten along.
- Because as long as it breathes life -- we can't.
The profit mechanism creates established orders which constitute the survival and wealth for a few groups of people. The fact is that no matter how socially beneficial new advents may be, they will be viewed in hostility if they threaten an established financially-driven institution. Meaning social progress can be a threat to the establishment. Put another way: "Abundance, sustainability and efficiency are the enemies of profit."
Progressive advancement in science and technology which can solve problems of inefficiency and scarcity once and for all, are in effect making the prior establishment's servicing of those issues obsolete. Therefore in a monetary system corporations aren't just in competition with each other, they're in competition with progress itself. That is why social-change is so difficult within a monetary system. In other words, the established monetary system refuses to allow free-flowing change.
Today we use paper proclamations to denote a person's so-called 'rights.' And just like laws, they are culturally biased, artificial concoctions which attempt to solve recurring problems by simply declaring something with words on paper. Rights, in fact, have been invented to protect ourselves from the negative byproducts of the social system itself. And once again instead of seeking a true solution to a problem, we invent these patches by way of paper proclamations in an attempt to resolve them. This does not work. It has never worked. There is really no such thing as an inalienable right outside of the culture in which it is assumed. We are making this up. Therefore liberties need to be inherent in a social system by design not alluded to ambiguously on paper.
We have to understand that government as we know it today, is not in place for the well being of the public, but rather for the perpetuation of their establishment and their power. Just like every other institution within a monetary system. Government is a monetary invention for the sake of economic and social control and its methods are based upon self-preservation, first and foremost. All a government can really do is to create laws to compensate for an inherent lack of integrity within the social order.
In society today the public is essentially kept distracted and uninformed. This is the way that governments maintain control. If you review history, power is maintained through ignorance. ~Peter Joseph
midnight
(26,624 posts)debt like Americans were?
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)In the US, the banksters not only did not flee, but they have actually consolidated more power. Obama didn't do anything to stop this in his first term, nor will he in his presumptive 2nd. In fact, he played his roll as instructed to push the agenda along, with the aid of his giving left-cover and a smiley face to the encroaching corporate fascism. As for Rmoney, should that hollow man amongst hollow men gain the lever of power, the enveloping of neo-feudalism will be even worse and more rapid.
If the American people don't like it, they have nowhere to turn, except into the teeth of a paramilitary police state armed with a thousand types of shiny new toys of repression (legal ones, mass-psychological ones, human ones, and scientific/physical ones) all field-tested in America's global empiric war theatres.
Or perhaps they really can be bought off and self-imprisoned with just 200 cable telly channels, GMO-infused fast food, and the cheap, hops-flavoured carbonated piss-water that passes for beer there.
midnight
(26,624 posts)who's name escapes me, reveals a brief warning about the dire situation were in... Good lord, but you do have an impressive understanding of the mess we are in.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)That is what should have happened here, but instead, Henry Paulson became a 'de facto president' as someone put it at the time, and took on that role when he threatened Congress, AFTER they had responded to the will of the people and voted against the bailouts, with Marshal Law. And even though this is well known, there has been virtually no reaction to it.
What does that say about the American people?
It was the PEOPLE of Iceland who refused to accept the situation and who demanded the removal of Government officials who had facilitated the corrupt bankers.
So in the end, the fault lies with the American people mostly. And even when some of them finally took to the streets, look what happened, even here on DU we have people who despise OWS, which was the first major reaction to the corruption here.
We get the government we deserve. Iceland got the one deserve.
magic59
(429 posts)Hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more, no more, no more no more.
Hotler
(11,424 posts)"Every time you use credit for a purchase think,"Debt is slavery; I am making myself a slave.""
awhile back there was a thread in GD about credit cards and I suggested that everyone stop using their creadit cards even if you pay them off each month. Oh the howling and anger that came from DU members. Cash is king people.
allan01
(1,950 posts)this is fantastic . thanks for sharing . as i shut down the computers tonight , impending ligthning storm. (dry,redflag, i dont trust surge protectors). most folk dont know why the imf was created . in the late 70s and early 80s . wells fargo. bof a. and many players you know and dont know floated huge loans called jumbos to countries in south amreica ,mexico, others . many collapsed under the huge weight of interist and debt. also pope john paul 2 was asking for debit forgiveness. the banks said no way and formed the imf. sleep well .ps : i also saved the clip as i feel that this interview is important. shame it hasnt hit our m$n.