Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
2 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Dan Rather: Trump is afraid, Mueller probe is "Hurricane Vladimir" (Original Post) Miles Archer Aug 2017 OP
if Trump tries to pardon Flynn or Manafort & Repubs let him get away with it, our democracy is dead beachjustice Aug 2017 #1
I believe GOP congress will not remove him from office. BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #2

beachjustice

(45 posts)
1. if Trump tries to pardon Flynn or Manafort & Repubs let him get away with it, our democracy is dead
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:21 PM
Aug 2017

If he tries to use the pardon to kill the investigation into Russian collusion with Trump or he tries to pardon himself, our Republican legislature has to respond by removing him from office. If that doesn't happen, Republicans will have essentially eliminated the last institutional barrier to the US becoming a single-party state. We will fall into a positive-feedback cycle where Republicans continuously erode the civil liberties to avoid unfavorable election outcomes.

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
2. I believe GOP congress will not remove him from office.
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:58 PM
Aug 2017

45 can't pardon his pals that have committed state crimes so a few will get nailed by the states. The people will have to petition Congress to remove him from office. Civil disobedience, resistance, and boycotts will have to be a commitment by 50% of the population and do it consistently in loud, strong, and impactful ways. Only then will the GOP realize we have had it. If they don't do it I can see violent revolutions becoming the next step until the people have their country back. A new wave of patriotism will bring this to fruition.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Video & Multimedia»Dan Rather: Trump is afra...