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Russell Walker filed a lawsuit in South Carolina demanding that the Confederate Flag be put back in the SC court houses, saying "I don't believe [the confederate flag] is a symbol of racism," and promptly proving himself a racist. He then finishes BY PARROTING TRUMP'S words about starting with confederate statues, and leading inevitably to tearing down the statues of Jefferson and Washington.
Actually, it doesn't matter what YOU BELIEVE or DON'T believe, shit-for-brains. Opinions don't trump facts. The founders of the Confederacy WERE racists, and the Confederacy WAS FOUNDED ON RACISM. Not 'State's rights,' as revisionist turd-polishers often portray it.
The founders of the Confederacy TORE UP the United States Constitution (something you idiots were RABIDLY DEFENDING five minutes ago when Obama was President) and replaced it with another Constitution that specifically said BLACKS ARE INFERIOR TO WHITES, and that slavery is their natural condition.
Don't take my word for it. Read the words of Confederacy Vice President Alexander Stephens as he explains the PURPOSE of secession...
"The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutionsAfrican slavery as it exists among usthe proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution....
...The prevailing ideas entertained by (Jefferson) and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away... Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error....
...Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition..."
--Alexander Stephens, VP of Confederacy. Cornerstone Speech 1861
Glorfindel
(9,732 posts)Alexander H. Stephens was the vice-president of the Confederacy, and it is the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution that says "all men are created equal." Andrew Sullivan is a gay-rights advocate and sometimes columnist. Your passion and enthusiasm do you great credit, but our opponents will seize every opportunity to make fun of us for being historically inaccurate.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)Goodness! I have no idea why I put Andrew Sullivan in there. I know who they both are, but haven't even SEEN Sullivan in a long time. And yes, in internet flame wars, incorrect (often trivial) details usually pull down an otherwise correct argument. I've used that cheap rhetorical weapon often enough to know better.
Glorfindel
(9,732 posts)I'd want you to do it for me.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)My usual problem with Andrew Sullivan is that I sometimes mix him up with Christopher Hitchens, as if they were interchangeable.