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liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:34 AM Oct 2016

Anderson Cooper Fact Checks Trump Campaign Manager Mid-Sentence, Segment FLIES Off Rails



During an interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, Kellyanne Conway tried her hardest to defend alleged unregistered sex offender Donald Trump. Unfortunately, it’s hard to defend the indefensible, and Conway — just like her candidate during the second presidential debate — was no match for Cooper.

Taking a page from alleged sex offender Donald Trump’s book, Conway tried to argue that Bill Clinton has said and done far worse things than Trump described in the audio that was leaked late last week. First, Conway listed Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky while he was still in office. Then, after naming other indiscretions, she got to the civil lawsuit that Clinton settled with Paula Jones in 1998. Conway argued that Clinton’s $850,000 settlement was proof that the former president was guilty.


Now, the problem with Conway’s argument is not necessarily her claim that settlement implies guilt. The problem, instead, is the double standard she created with her statement, which Cooper caught on to immediately. Cooper said:

‘Your candidate has settled numerous lawsuits without admitting any guilt on a whole number of things.’

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Anderson Cooper Fact Checks Trump Campaign Manager Mid-Sentence, Segment FLIES Off Rails (Original Post) liberal N proud Oct 2016 OP
Good job AC. Just keep persisting until either they spooky3 Oct 2016 #1
what i dont get about all the bill cllinton stuff mopinko Oct 2016 #2
They always pander to their base assuming the rest of the world is like them. Amonester Oct 2016 #5
Yes, because what did Trump say when he supposedl heard "worse from Bill Clinton on the golf course" LakeArenal Oct 2016 #25
Want some more mental whiplash awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #30
Bill Clinton has been pretty faithful to Hillary these last 20 years LynneSin Oct 2016 #36
well colin powell said differently mopinko Oct 2016 #46
The line the trumpanzees thrash is that dump only engaged in "locker-room talk" BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #39
they dont understand consent. mopinko Oct 2016 #47
Ugh. Godz.... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #48
i know. mopinko Oct 2016 #49
Lolol! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #50
his arguments never make sense NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #45
Anderson Cooper seems to have rediscovered his jounalism chops. brush Oct 2016 #3
Anderson Cooper... LovingA2andMI Oct 2016 #13
Let's not get carried away. brush Oct 2016 #17
We're Not... LovingA2andMI Oct 2016 #19
Which is our opionion as well. Go Coop! LakeArenal Oct 2016 #26
Always wonder about this busterbrown Oct 2016 #23
That'll never happen. Joy Reid is the best on TV. malachi Oct 2016 #15
Agreed. brush Oct 2016 #20
Whats next? Will the Trump campaign go back 80 years and bring up INdemo Oct 2016 #4
Or JFK? n/t Stonepounder Oct 2016 #7
He already went after Ted Kennedy, so JFK might be next. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #11
What Donald doesn't seem to get .. LakeArenal Oct 2016 #28
+1 BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #32
+213 Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #52
Or Dubya and Jeff Gannon? keithbvadu2 Oct 2016 #35
^ BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #38
Wow PatSeg Oct 2016 #6
media, with the exception of Faux of course, is beginning to turn the screws on RUMP NoMoreRepugs Oct 2016 #8
Pivots are getting old. Pantagruelsmember Oct 2016 #9
Really! treestar Oct 2016 #44
I'm sorry; I can't stand Kellyanne NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #10
Kate McKinnon does a great impersonation of her on SNL LynneSin Oct 2016 #37
She's very good NastyRiffraff Oct 2016 #40
It was so obvious she could not answer that question treestar Oct 2016 #43
But... but... look at the Clintons! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #12
As much as I like Bill, and have forgiven him, had I known in advance I wouldn't have voted Laser102 Oct 2016 #14
There is a big difference between Bill and Trump. Stonepounder Oct 2016 #16
You're so right: especially your last sentence. maddiemom Oct 2016 #22
you are correct, thanks blueseas Oct 2016 #27
Geez! She looks and acts like a cult member. Crowman1979 Oct 2016 #18
Much better than a "Conway Tweety" interview! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #21
She believes Paula Jones... RainCaster Oct 2016 #24
It's easy for them to push back on Trump now. Why didn't they do it when it was difficult? TonyPDX Oct 2016 #29
I agree, but Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #31
Absolutely. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #34
He is NOT running against Bill Clinton. or Barack Obama! Feeling the Bern Oct 2016 #33
Bill Clinton left office The Wizard Oct 2016 #41
Kellyanne has become a serial evader mdbl Oct 2016 #42
"Serial evader" True Dough Oct 2016 #51
Joe McCarthy is alive and well in Trump Angry Dragon Oct 2016 #53
Would Kellyanne Conjob do this witout pay? mdbl Oct 2016 #54
Trump has settled far more cases than Bill Clinton Gothmog Oct 2016 #55

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
2. what i dont get about all the bill cllinton stuff
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:29 AM
Oct 2016

how does it make him a good candidate if he is doing the same things that bill did, and they want to fry bill in hot oil?
yeah, sure, i am the same as the most vile man (to them) ever to occupy the white house?
how is it better to have drumph as president to "keep bill clinton from getting back in the white house"?

these people have serious brain damage.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
5. They always pander to their base assuming the rest of the world is like them.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:35 AM
Oct 2016

They make me sick to my stomach.

Aren't they supposed to have studied History, or Law for that matter?

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
25. Yes, because what did Trump say when he supposedl heard "worse from Bill Clinton on the golf course"
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:51 PM
Oct 2016

I am sure it was, "gee, Bill I couldn't disagree with you more."

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
30. Want some more mental whiplash
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 05:42 PM
Oct 2016

Chris Kroc (of shit) was defending tRump the other night, and 2 minutes later said Billy Bush lost his job, as he should have. It boggles my mind to try to use their logic.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
36. Bill Clinton has been pretty faithful to Hillary these last 20 years
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:41 PM
Oct 2016

This Trump stuff is the last 10 years. And Trump is on wife #3 who he has cheated on her like the other 2.

Bill is no saint but he cleaned up his act. So I have no clue why Trump idiots keep bringing it up.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
39. The line the trumpanzees thrash is that dump only engaged in "locker-room talk"
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:45 PM
Oct 2016

And they can't seem to understand the difference between consent and non-consent.

Bill's actions, those many years ago, were consensual while as yet unregistered sex offender Dumpf's words joked about non-consensuality. And of course his actions which are being revealed now.

But the dumpsketeers won't acknowledge the accusations against dumpf, and ignore or dismiss or just don't understand the difference between consent and force against the unwilling.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
47. they dont understand consent.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 10:45 AM
Oct 2016

flush limpballs did a whole schtick about how liberals are fine w sex of any kind as long as it is consenting adults. hazaa. he gets it. except that the whole concept mystified him.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
50. Lolol!
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 12:06 PM
Oct 2016

I know, right?


If it was just that movie, Idiocracy, I could keep reminding myself, "It's only a movie, it's only a movie."

-_-

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
45. his arguments never make sense
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

but, he still uses them.

Trump: "We need to beat the Chinese and make things in America again."
Fact-Checker: "You make a lot of your products in China."
Trump: "Since I've outsourced jobs to China, I know how to beat them. Trust me, only I can do it."

That's like an arsonist saying he's the best person to be the town fire marshal, or a bank robber saying he is the best at protecting banks.

brush

(53,791 posts)
3. Anderson Cooper seems to have rediscovered his jounalism chops.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:36 AM
Oct 2016

I hope he keeps it up until he gets within hailing distance of Joy Reid.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
13. Anderson Cooper...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:27 AM
Oct 2016

Has always had his Journalism Chops and Remains one of our Favorite Journalist along with Keith Olbermann.

brush

(53,791 posts)
17. Let's not get carried away.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:57 AM
Oct 2016

He has his moments (not often enough as he's allowed repugs to spew talking points too often without challenge).

This nasty campaign seems to have reawakened him but he's not in Olbermann's class, nor Joy Reid's.

He did the nation a service by forcing Trump to answer his question about sexual harassment (Trump lied), and this time by insisting on pointing out the illogical stance to Conway of Trump's bashing of Bill Clinton's sexual abuses when he's accused of the same types of things.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
23. Always wonder about this
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:53 PM
Oct 2016

Most of the good ones on CNN certainly are grilling the trump surrogates these days..

But as you stated they allow the surrogates to Easily sequay into their lying talking points!

They just seem unprepared for the obvious next lie...

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
28. What Donald doesn't seem to get ..
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:03 PM
Oct 2016

is, had we known about other President's dirty secrets BEFORE they were President, we probably wouldn't have elected them. (as much as I love Bill, John and Washington and FDR and Jefferson.... in hindsight)

Dear Donald, Once Upon A Time, we, as voters, had a soul. We didn't let politicians disrespect soldiers, women, religions, unions, laborers or students. Yes, we may have been duped a little, but dupe me once shame on me, dupe us now Shame on YOU! (or maybe it should be," won't get duped again&quot Well Shame on you no matter what....Cuz we see you clearly Donald.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
8. media, with the exception of Faux of course, is beginning to turn the screws on RUMP
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:46 AM
Oct 2016

there may not be enough popcorn for this show

Pantagruelsmember

(106 posts)
9. Pivots are getting old.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:55 AM
Oct 2016

It's taken forever but reporters seem to have had it with the tactic, what took them so long?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. Really!
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 10:00 AM
Oct 2016

Maybe that is why they do it. She simply starts on another subject after giving a condescending look.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
10. I'm sorry; I can't stand Kellyanne
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:19 AM
Oct 2016

That insipid smile, that monotone voice, rattling on about bullshit instead of answering the question. Good for Anderson for refusing to let go.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
40. She's very good
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016

Only thing is, she should put on that sappy smile more in the interviews! Otherwise, she's brilliant.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
43. It was so obvious she could not answer that question
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016

So why did she start off on something she had to know could be contradicted easily? Attempting to gish gallop and answer no questions.

Laser102

(816 posts)
14. As much as I like Bill, and have forgiven him, had I known in advance I wouldn't have voted
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:27 AM
Oct 2016

for him. We know about this pervert. He can attack these women, but his words on that tape is the same thing they are claiming. Good luck with that!

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
16. There is a big difference between Bill and Trump.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:42 AM
Oct 2016

Juanata Broderick - unproven, no charges
Jennifer Flowers - consensual
Paula Jones - she denied it under oath, then renewed the charge, perjury?
Monica Lewinski - consensual

Does he have a history of cheating. Yes. However, a) it was 20-30 years ago, b) apparently he has 'outgrown it', c) Hillary didn't cheat. As to the claim that Hillary hired a private detective, well seems to me that if a wife finds out that there is a woman claiming that her husband has been cheating on her, hiring a PI to get some answers is a reasonable stop. And not being 'nice' to the accuser and maybe calling her names is also a reasonable reaction. If someone told me that my spouse was cheating on me, I would probably have a few choice epithets for both my spouse and the 'other'.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
18. Geez! She looks and acts like a cult member.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:58 AM
Oct 2016

Just like the consumers of Trump's products. Who think whatever they bought from him is great because it has his name slapped across it.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
29. It's easy for them to push back on Trump now. Why didn't they do it when it was difficult?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:08 PM
Oct 2016

Because journalism is dead and entertainment lives on.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
41. Bill Clinton left office
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 05:35 AM
Oct 2016

with a 66% approval rate. He's a highly respected international leader. If that's the weak point you choose to exploit your candidate is ____________________ fill in the blank. How'd that whole impeachment fiasco work out for the stupid party?

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
42. Kellyanne has become a serial evader
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 06:40 AM
Oct 2016

Ask a question, get a response about something else which has nothing to do with the original question. Can't even watch her anymore it's so ridiculous.

True Dough

(17,306 posts)
51. "Serial evader"
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 12:09 PM
Oct 2016

would have to be at the top of anyone's resume who applied to be Drumpf's campaign manager. Definitely a prerequisite.

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
55. Trump has settled far more cases than Bill Clinton
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:42 PM
Oct 2016

This is a very stupid talking point even coming from Conway

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