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Wow! Do many millennials feel this way!? (Original Post) thomhartmann Aug 2016 OP
This kid has a lot to learn Warpy Aug 2016 #1
Yes. It's like he's never heard of Scrap The Cap. stuffmatters Aug 2016 #7
I agree. LuvNewcastle Aug 2016 #17
As the parent of two young millennials... kag Aug 2016 #22
Shouldn't bail anyone out Urchin Aug 2016 #2
This guy is a bad representative of Millennials. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #3
Bwa ha ha! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #4
Yea I wouldn't say he is the best representative. UnFettered Aug 2016 #5
Too many have bought into the lies.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #9
I get all my millenials news from russian today, the putin network lol nt msongs Aug 2016 #6
good lord i hope not. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #8
Little loser thinks he is gonna make things better by gutting SS so no one has any. jtuck004 Aug 2016 #10
Hartman didn't push back enough at the end there on the bailout. brush Aug 2016 #11
A nephew said almost exactly this same set of "millennial" truths along with his friends. Ford_Prefect Aug 2016 #12
I do not think that all millennials are that way or any specific particular way beda45 Aug 2016 #13
I have believed for years that those of us between 40 and 60 belong to the "sandwich generation" Trust Buster Aug 2016 #14
i hear this crap about social security from idiots like Paul Ryan, not millenials mdbl Aug 2016 #18
Deer in headlight look toward the end. I hope the kid re-researches and writes another book. Festivito Aug 2016 #15
Millennials? No. Arrogant pricks? Absolutely. cab67 Aug 2016 #16
yeah rtracey Aug 2016 #19
Just like the Tea Party training that went on, there is a push to gut SS, and I think it is being jtuck004 Aug 2016 #20
Sad K&R. When facts are treated as opinion. Koch PR is powerful. Overseas Aug 2016 #21
I think this young man is full of it. He traveled around the country and listened to young people? YOHABLO Aug 2016 #23
Nice plug for your paid for by the Russian Government gig, Thom! beastie boy Aug 2016 #24

Warpy

(111,338 posts)
1. This kid has a lot to learn
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

"You can't tell me any of this stuff is false! I said it it in a BOOK so it must be TRUE!"

Christ. The milennials I know deserve a lot better representation than this little pimple; they're a hell of a lot smarter than this.

Some of them even got out of college knowing how Social Security really works.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
7. Yes. It's like he's never heard of Scrap The Cap.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 04:53 AM
Aug 2016

Nor would he care to learn about it. He seems perfectly happy to stay ignorant/pedantic, self-footnote and declare himself the
expert on his generation. Just as Michael Medved swept in early and claimed himself an expert on the boomers (Class of '65). Medved's living proof you can be part of a generation and share absolutely none of its best traits during your lifetime.

Doesn't Reddit talk about Scrap The Cap, are most milennials really not informed about the easy solution?. This kid is ready to give all his soc sec to Wall Street! And spews the same generational "blame"that the Kochs, Pete Peterson et alios have invested millions
cultivating in young minds.

Why would HuffPo ever employ this obnoxious and creepy right wing little shill?

LuvNewcastle

(16,855 posts)
17. I agree.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 10:50 AM
Aug 2016

If anything, I think he probably represents the coming conservative thought of the new generation, or what passes for thought. They're just taking 'facts' from here and there, grabbing whatever they like and trashing the rest, like tourists at a casino buffet. If he is a representative of the politics of the future, I really need to look harder abroad for a place to retire.

kag

(4,079 posts)
22. As the parent of two young millennials...
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

...(born 1996 and 1998) I agree completely. My kids and their friends are just the opposite of this. They are not the least bit gullible like this kid. They certainly like to argue philosophies, and don't take anything I say at face value, which is both frustrating and admirable. But they're not smug, and they love to learn more than any group of kids I've ever met.

This little know-it-all knows nothing. And I predict that will continue to be made quite clear to him in interviews such as Thom's.

 

Urchin

(248 posts)
2. Shouldn't bail anyone out
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:26 PM
Aug 2016

But the government was right not to bail out homeowners.

And the government should not have bailed out the banks.

Either everybody gets a bailout, including those who don't need one, or nobody should get one.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
4. Bwa ha ha!
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 10:55 PM
Aug 2016

He knows about fluffy feel-good language, most likely, but conservatives will chew up a naive kid like him.

UnFettered

(79 posts)
5. Yea I wouldn't say he is the best representative.
Sat Aug 20, 2016, 11:39 PM
Aug 2016

I fall into the upper end of the millennial category. I'm not sure he is all that informed on some subjects.

I will say I do feel similar about political party's and politics that he expressed. Now I am against privatizing social security, but it honisty plays very little in my retirement planing. Mostly because I worry about the retirement age being raised. People living longer isn't always relitave to being able to actually LIVE your life.

I will say one thing he was right about some of us do have more radical ideas.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
9. Too many have bought into the lies....
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 06:01 AM
Aug 2016

The big one is to claim actual FACTS are open to debate and then to say it must be true if most people believe it.

Most people believed the earth was flat.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble.
It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.


--Mark Twain
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. Little loser thinks he is gonna make things better by gutting SS so no one has any.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 06:17 AM
Aug 2016

It's comforting to see that their generation, according to this precious snowflake, didn't get any smarter, just more self-absorbed and delusional.

And there really was a guy named Reagan, except this little dumbshit doesn't want to read that chapter.

As he demonstrates, some things never change. Sitting at the children's table while you let others pay the bills is easier than growing up.







brush

(53,841 posts)
11. Hartman didn't push back enough at the end there on the bailout.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 06:28 AM
Aug 2016

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He finally did tell the know-it-all that the bank bailout was Bush and Paulsen coughing up trillions to the banks. He also didn't mention how Obama's stimulus package saved us from going even deeper into the Great Reccesssion.

But this so-called millennial representative will be a repug politician soon as we see he's already leaning towards the Koch brothers and Paul Ryan's Randian foolishness on Social Security and the economy, even put some of the lies in his book — a repug move if I ever saw one.

God, I do hope that guy is just an aberration and that most millenials are betterninformed, better able to spot repug lies and more willing to listen when someone is informing them they are being hoodwinked.

Ford_Prefect

(7,918 posts)
12. A nephew said almost exactly this same set of "millennial" truths along with his friends.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 06:36 AM
Aug 2016

During a family wedding this bright, educated, career driven group spouted the most arrogant nonsense and claimed it to be fact. The thing I found about them is they do NOT read original sources, or do in depth research as such. It's rather like they read only the best 3 opinions on a subject and presume to grasp the background and history implied by those reviews as if that were all there is to know.

This was not a difference of opinion as much as it was displacement of fact in reasoning. I recall listening to a young "christian" person spouting the truth as he knew it and his reasoning was similarly weak on facts and history, and grounded in the most awful philosophy of how the "facts" he was sure of meant the world must be. He was sincere in his beliefs but had no reality to tie them to. It seems to me that I hear some millennials spouting a similarly inside-out logic and insisting that the history I lived through happened in a very different way with strangely different outcomes.

One thing they appear reject is historical reference, as if anything old is by definition not quite accurate. They prefer what seems to be their own contemporary references and tend to reject information that seems to them dogma.

I recall an analysis of children who grew up in areas of the world that had been at war for a long time in which their perceptions of what was and why, and their expectations of how the future would be shaped, and by whom had no reference point outside of warfare. They especially distrusted outsider versions of history and their history in particular. They tended to recite the clan mythology as if it were fact.

I do not think that all millennials are that way or any specific particular way. Rather they have grown up in the age of FOX news and other reality challenging information streams. The effect of so much propaganda must certainly be confusing. The lack of awareness that they are succumbing to it makes me think of the Bundy gang as believers in a history that never happened who cannot see that there are other reference points to examine and other points of view which may also contain some truth. Ammon, Cliven and Ryan are off the deep end of historic and cultural denial. My nephew and his peers are anchored in contemporary life however much they may deny the contradictions I may observe.


 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
14. I have believed for years that those of us between 40 and 60 belong to the "sandwich generation"
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 07:16 AM
Aug 2016

I mean "sandwich generation" in the sense that our current senior generation are not willing to sacrifice squat. The generation behind us will only have our generation to attack in the years ahead. We will be blamed for every challenge this country has by the Millenial generation. They will expect us to pay for every sin committed by the generation that came before us. Severely cutting our Social Security is just the start. I would suggest that you strap yourselves in for a rocky ride.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
18. i hear this crap about social security from idiots like Paul Ryan, not millenials
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 10:53 AM
Aug 2016

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Most millenials I know don't dis the social safety nets.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
15. Deer in headlight look toward the end. I hope the kid re-researches and writes another book.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 08:18 AM
Aug 2016

The GOP planners do this over and over and over:
1. Take over or privatize an operation.
2. Pay self with retirement monies.
3. Leave as or before operation goes bankrupt.
4. HAVE TAX DOLLARS PAY THE RETIREMENTS LOST.

On the next list:
Post office, Social Security

cab67

(3,007 posts)
16. Millennials? No. Arrogant pricks? Absolutely.
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 08:31 AM
Aug 2016

I've encountered fellow aging Gen-X'ers who sound like this person. We call them Republicans. They're all about pragmatism and compromise, as long as they get their way.

Most of the complaints I've seen leveled against Millennials were leveled against us as well. We were too idealistic and lacked grounding in the real world. We were self-absorbed and selfish. We blamed our elders (those dastardly Boomers) for all of our problems.

I think it's part of the human condition. At 20, we're more idealistic and view older people as jaded sell-outs. By 40, we see the younger generation as a bunch of dreamers who haven't really dealt with the world as it is yet. Both are unfair stereotypes.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
20. Just like the Tea Party training that went on, there is a push to gut SS, and I think it is being
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 12:44 PM
Aug 2016

fought, with a tactic to look at the long game, by its enemies.

They are planting this thought, thoroughly and seemingly without any real resistance, that SS is going to hurt the young, is just a giveaway to people older than them, and they would benefit from it going away.

That cohort, terrorists in a very real sense represented above by the little boy who sticks his fingers in his ears and refuses to listen, could very likely cause more pain to the baby boomers than ISIS ever could.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
23. I think this young man is full of it. He traveled around the country and listened to young people?
Sun Aug 21, 2016, 08:43 PM
Aug 2016

Really? I think he's taking notes from Libertarians and people like Paul Ryan. It's as if millennials put both fingers in their ears and pull shite out of their ass as to what the facts are. Where does he get his numbers? The GOP and the Libertarians have done a great job at brain washing this younger generation. God help us if they all believe the same as David Cahn.

beastie boy

(9,421 posts)
24. Nice plug for your paid for by the Russian Government gig, Thom!
Mon Aug 22, 2016, 09:44 AM
Aug 2016

But I wish you'd leave your commercial endeavors off DU.

Not to mention that this particular commercial endeavor is a poor example of what millenials think.

BTW, the answer to your question is no. Wow notwithstanding.

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