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Super Delegates Don't Vote Until July 25 (Original Post) midnight Jun 2016 OP
Are those the delegates that Bernie Sanders doesn't believe in? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #1
Hypocrites don't hire the designer of SD's Skink Jun 2016 #4
Super Delegates are designed liberal N proud Jun 2016 #5
Are these the names of the suer delegates that will vote on July 25? midnight Jun 2016 #11
Designers liberal N proud Jun 2016 #15
Oops. Didn't realise it was secret. So what/who, if I could know is a designer? midnight Jun 2016 #17
Response to post by Skink liberal N proud Jun 2016 #20
The "designer" of SD's? One of the "designers" was Tad Devine, Sanders' top political advisor. George II Jun 2016 #33
Brought To You By Those That Claimed Bernie Would Never Even Register On The Radar. billhicks76 Jun 2016 #44
Are we still doing this idiotic 'supers don't vote till july!' nonsense? bravenak Jun 2016 #2
"Good GAWD I wih people would cut this crap out. No delegates vote till July." midnight Jun 2016 #9
No delegates vote till July bravenak Jun 2016 #10
Finally! You get it! nt Gore1FL Jun 2016 #12
Ok... midnight Jun 2016 #19
Are you serious? humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #16
An indictment for what? Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #32
Why Hillary Clinton Could Face Indictments SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #46
Don't see it happening. Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #48
Seriously? That's what you're holding onto? Gman Jun 2016 #39
If you think Clinton is going to govern as a progressive liberal then YOU are the kool-aid drinker AntiBank Jun 2016 #21
I expect she'll govern as a sane center leftist, not a Chávez kook ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2016 #35
you do understand that Sanders is so nowhere near that far left nor authoritarian??? AntiBank Jun 2016 #45
Most of those 30 superdelegates BS has will switch over to Hillary... dubyadiprecession Jun 2016 #3
Actually elected supers in states Bernie won are starting to say I'm staying home Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #14
Lee Camp's the best, and he's right on these important issues. Glad you posted this. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #6
This guy's hilarious! And Shalene Woodley in the bit, too, for you Divergent fans. nt valerief Jun 2016 #7
Make this... kadaholo Jun 2016 #8
Never in history have they switched sides to the man with fewer pledged delegates. pnwmom Jun 2016 #13
don't hold your breath humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #18
She WILL win the majority of all pledged delegates tomorrow. pnwmom Jun 2016 #22
Majority but not enough to win outright humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #23
She has enough to win OUTRIGHT the majority of PLEDGED delegates -- pnwmom Jun 2016 #24
Good gawd that's delusional. Gman Jun 2016 #40
Lee Camp is a whacked job. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #25
I don't really know too much about him other than seeing this video about the midnight Jun 2016 #30
But it is skewed to the point of being ridiculous. Gman Jun 2016 #41
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Jun 2016 #26
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #27
I Won't Have Another Birthday Till February Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #28
LOL.... Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #29
take it out of the plastic bag next time before you smoke it SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #47
No delegates vote until July 25. George II Jun 2016 #31
She is the "presumptive nominee" then rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #34
What's the problem with playing this out until July 25th? Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #36
Less time to go after Trump, and it continues to string Sander's supporters along wisteria Jun 2016 #38
And, she won't be indicted, and the Super Delegates will not go against wisteria Jun 2016 #37
And the electoral college doesn't vote until December 19 bluestateguy Jun 2016 #42
Keep stirring the Ring Wing Shit Pot! Cryptoad Jun 2016 #43

liberal N proud

(60,338 posts)
1. Are those the delegates that Bernie Sanders doesn't believe in?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jun 2016

The delegates that should be eliminated?

Now they are important?

Hypocrisy!

liberal N proud

(60,338 posts)
5. Super Delegates are designed
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jun 2016

Who is the designer?

A-B Edit
Osceola Macarthy Adams
Adolfo
Adrian
Joseph Abboud
Ray Aghayan
Lanie Alabanza-Barcena
Steven Alan
Larry Aldrich
Jason Alkire
Cindy Ambuehl
Spencer Antle
Pegah Anvarian
Kevin Aviance
Anya Ayoung-Chee
Mark Badgley
Xenobia Bailey
John Bakel
Jeffrey Banks
Travis Banton
Jhane Barnes
Dennis Basso
Michael Bastian
Suede Baum
Geoffrey Beene
Bill Belew
Hunter Bell
Henri Willis Bendel
Stacey Bendet
Laura Bennett
Susan Bennis
Fonzworth Bentley
Chris Benz
Robyn Berkley
James Pasqual Bettio
Jonas Bevacqua
Bibhu Mohapatra
Jeanne Bice
Richard Blackwell
Bill Blass
Mildred Blount
Main Bocher
Stevie Boi
Krayzie Bone
Waraire Boswell
Tony Bowls
Rosemary Brantley
Tom Brigance
Helen Brockman
Bonnie Broel
Gessica Brooke
Donald Brooks
Thom Browne
Sabrina Bryan
Morris Bublick
Dana Buchman
Tory Burch
Stephen Burrows
Jon Buscemi
Lauren Bush
Ebenezer Butterick
Amanda Bynes
C-E Edit
Jean Cacicedo
Lilian Cahn
Joan Calabrese
Eva Camacho-Sánchez
Carlos Campos
Vince Camuto
Ruth Sacks Caplin
Albert Capraro
Alex Carleton
Elizabeth Carpenter
Kelly Carrington
Bonnie Cashin
Kristin Cavallari
Sal Cesarani
Richard Chai
Angel Chang
Alabama Chanin
Ceil Chapman
Reco Chapple
Monika Chiang
Margaret Cho
Andrew Christian
Matthew Christopher
Claw Money
James Clifford
Kenneth Cole
Sean Combs
Dennis Comeau
Cristi Conaway
Lauren Conrad
Mandy Coon
Michael Costello
Jeffrey Costello
Caresse Crosby
Laura Dahl
Eric Daman
Debra Davenport
Ellen Louise Demorest
Jane Derby
Lyn Devon
Hilary Duff...

midnight

(26,624 posts)
11. Are these the names of the suer delegates that will vote on July 25?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jun 2016

Interesting point about creating them.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. The "designer" of SD's? One of the "designers" was Tad Devine, Sanders' top political advisor.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

Interesting, eh?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
44. Brought To You By Those That Claimed Bernie Would Never Even Register On The Radar.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:38 AM
Jun 2016

And they claim he's an independent and shouldnt even run as a Democrat even though he offered to caucus with them when their butts were on the line. FOOLS....if he HAD run as an independent there would be no possibility of a President Clinton.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. Are we still doing this idiotic 'supers don't vote till july!' nonsense?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jun 2016

Good GAWD I wih people would cut this crap out. No delegates vote till July. Why the everloving HELL tey would switch to Bernie after he called the entire PARTY Corrupt has never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever been explained. Ever. They DO NOT LIKE HIM!!! Can yall get that through your heads? Cant jut force people who cannot stand you to switch to support you just caus you say you can beat Trump. Nobody CARES what he says about the polls with him vs Trump. Let me go post ths in gdpee.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
9. "Good GAWD I wih people would cut this crap out. No delegates vote till July."
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jun 2016

are you saying this because delegates july 25 vote info. is not true? Or are you just saying it bothers you because it is true?

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
16. Are you serious?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

She is nothing but presumptive because she did not end this primary with pledge delegates. If the FBI recommends and justice indicts her before the convention of course the supers will not vote for her and Bernie will be the nominee with the super delegates votes putting him over the top....

The absolute worse thing that could happen is that after the convention she gets indicted... do you even understand how bad that will be for the Democratic party and frankly for America?

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
46. Why Hillary Clinton Could Face Indictments
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:59 AM
Jun 2016

Relevant Excerpts:

Hillary Clinton Emails
June 7, 2016

The Huffington Post

Why Hillary Clinton Could Face Indictments and How This Makes Bernie Sanders Nominee

H. A. Goodman | Posted 06.06.2016 | Politics

However, Bernie Sanders has won 21 states and earned almost 10 million votes, without the help of Democratic officials beholden to his political power. Furthermore, Vermont’s Senator will be the only person left standing politically, if the FBI recommends indictments of Hillary Clinton to the Department of Justice. For people who believe Clinton is too powerful to jail, here’s a quick breakdown of why indictments could be imminent, and why Bernie Sanders is poised to become Democratic nominee.
It’s a crime under the Espionage Act to willingly, or inadvertently, transfer 22 Top Secret emails from secure

State Department servers, to an unguarded private server. This is essentially what Hillary Clinton paid Bryan Pagliano to do (when linking her private computer server to secure State servers) and is likely the reason he was granted immunity.

It is a crime to remove government documents—classified and Top Secret—from secure locations and store them within unsecure locations. I ask how Clinton got this Top Secret intelligence onto a private server in the following YouTube segment.

Whether or not the existence of Clinton’s server was known by others is entirely irrelevant to her own legal predicament.

President Obama could be bending the truth about learning of the server in 2015, however even if he knew beforehand, it’s Clinton’s actions that will be the center of controversy. She needed the server for a reason, and it wasn’t “convenience.”

Most importantly, Clinton’s Top Secret emails contained Special Access Program intelligence; an aspect overlooked by pundits focused solely upon “emails” and intent. The severity of Clinton’s SAP emails is highlighted in a Wall Street Journal article titled Hillary’s ‘Special Access’ Server:

The SAP—special access program—reference in particular is ringing Washington alarms. A SAP usually refers to a highly covert technology program, often weaponry. Knowledge of these programs is usually restricted to small groups of people on a need-to-know basis.

NBC News first reported that the SAP reference on Mrs. Clinton’s server is so sensitive that Mr. McCullough had to get special clearance before he could even view the intelligence-community declarations.

Mrs. Clinton would surely have recognized the sensitive nature of such a program—the details of which were sitting on her unsecured email server, affording “special access” to any quality Chinese hacker.

This is probably why Mrs. Clinton’s campaign decided to smear Mr. McCullough as a partisan.

The existence of Special Access Program intelligence is often denied by the U.S. government and is considered the highest classification; even beyond Top Secret.
Regarding her SAP emails, Clinton’s server was unencrypted for three months. Because this server was unguarded, I explain here why Clinton harmed U.S. national security.

Under the Espionage Act, “gross negligence” is enough to prosecute, so intent isn’t needed when evaluating the harm done to national security from an unencrypted private server containing Top Secret emails. Simply claiming ignorance, or disinterest, or naiveté in using a private server isn’t enough to circumvent criminal indictments under the Espionage Act.

The fact that Hillary Clinton owned an unencrypted private server at her home, combined with the fact foreign nations (and Romanian hacker Guccifer) attempted to hack into her server, are other reasons indictments should be a genuine concern for all Hillary supporters.

As for the retroactively classified emails, retroactively classified intelligence was enough to convict CIA whistleblower Jeffrey Sterling and indict NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake.

If Clinton isn’t indicted, free Jeffrey Sterling.

I explain that retroactively classified intelligence has already been upheld by the courts in the following YouTube segment. Regarding the intelligence found on Clinton’s server, the SAP information was “born classified.” Thus, none of the born classified emails needed markings, or any clarification on the documents; Clinton should have known this intelligence needed to be stored within State Department servers.

Then of course, the recent State Department ruling that Clinton violated rules is another reason for potential indictments. As stated by CNN, Hillary Clinton was never given authority to own a private server, and her email practices broke internal guidelines:

Therefore, the basis for imminent indictments rests upon the fact that neither the State Department, nor the president gave Clinton the authority to use a private server. Since this server contained SAP and other Top Secret intelligence, and since these emails are born classified and immune to any retroactively classified defense of owning the server, Clinton faces legal consequences.

Finally, a USA Today piece by Phillip Jennings titled Secretary without honor: Voices highlights the enormity of Clinton’s email fiasco:

I explain in my latest MSNBC appearance why Clinton’s emails will lead to indictment. Regardless of delegate count, Bernie Sanders is the true front-runner and the DNC will need Vermont’s Senator very soon. Clinton barely defeats Trump in the polls and only one Democratic nominee faces the prospect of Espionage Act indictments.

Follow H. A. Goodman on Twitter: www.twitter.com/HAGOODMANAUTHOR

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
21. If you think Clinton is going to govern as a progressive liberal then YOU are the kool-aid drinker
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jun 2016

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
35. I expect she'll govern as a sane center leftist, not a Chávez kook
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jun 2016


- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community
 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
45. you do understand that Sanders is so nowhere near that far left nor authoritarian???
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jun 2016

He would be one of the more moderate members of the Social Democrat party (our dominant party for 80 years, with interruptions) here in Sweden. The USA is so far to the right it is ludicrous how right-wing a "left liberal" USA politician can be.. Clinton would be centre to pretty hard right in most euro countries, especially her foreign policy, her bankster ass-kissing, and her shitty trade policies. She is so not centre left on most things, other than some ("evolved", lol) social issues.

dubyadiprecession

(5,716 posts)
3. Most of those 30 superdelegates BS has will switch over to Hillary...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jun 2016

Few of them will want to stay on the losing side. You can count on it.

Omaha Steve

(99,663 posts)
14. Actually elected supers in states Bernie won are starting to say I'm staying home
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jun 2016

They want to be re-elected!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. Never in history have they switched sides to the man with fewer pledged delegates.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jun 2016

And it won't happen this time, either. The supers aren't going to turn their backs on the diverse voters across the country who put Hillary ahead by millions of votes.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
18. don't hold your breath
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jun 2016

depending on the outcome of this FBI investigation will determine exactly what the supers will do, it is a real shame she couldn't win this thing with outright pledge delegates then it wouldn't matter she would be the nominee.. but this mission accomplished crap is baffling to me.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
22. She WILL win the majority of all pledged delegates tomorrow.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jun 2016

And of course she needs some super-delegates to reach the majority of total delegates, because the total number includes some 700 super delegates.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
23. Majority but not enough to win outright
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016

only 263 delegates separate her and Bernie... You cannot count the supers that was my point.... her BS number of 2383 is only because all the party insiders have said they will vote for her but actually won't until the convention and anything can happen between now and then.... she may suspend her campaign for one reason or another and the supers will give Bernie over 2383, so stop all the mission accomplished BS

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
24. She has enough to win OUTRIGHT the majority of PLEDGED delegates --
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jun 2016

the only ones Bernie thinks should count.

Or at least that's what he used to say.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
30. I don't really know too much about him other than seeing this video about the
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jun 2016

super delegate count happeing in July. Thought it was an interesting presentation.

 
28. I Won't Have Another Birthday Till February
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jun 2016

And I'm absolutely certain that my gift will be a naked Alyssa Milano!

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
29. LOL....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

They're not going to switch.

Whatever hallucinogenic drugs some of you people are taking, you really need to stop.

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
47. take it out of the plastic bag next time before you smoke it
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:17 AM
Jun 2016

He's not the one always LOL.....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
34. She is the "presumptive nominee" then
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

OK, happy?

If for some reason a couple hundred committed superdelegates change their minds we'll get back to you.


Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
36. What's the problem with playing this out until July 25th?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jun 2016

What is the big deal? Why is everyone all uptight about Bernie going to the Convention and the nominee being decided there?

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
38. Less time to go after Trump, and it continues to string Sander's supporters along
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jun 2016

still thinking he can win this, when he can't. The math has not been on his side for a while.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
37. And, she won't be indicted, and the Super Delegates will not go against
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jun 2016

the will of the majority of Democrat voters. It has always been done this way, and shouldn't be changed simply to suit Sander's idea that we should all wait for the enevitable.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
42. And the electoral college doesn't vote until December 19
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jun 2016

So really, the results on election night are more like a suggestion.

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