OUCH!! Did I hear Debbie Admit the DNC IS Rigged against Bernie on CNN?

[tomm2thumbs]

Debbie Wasserman Schultz:

"Un-pledged (Super) Delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists."


OUCH is right !!!

[tomm2thumbs]

1. there you have it -- from the mouth of the head of the DNC

sometimes they forget they are being recorded when a little truth slips out of their mouths

[yuiyoshida]

29. don't worry, they are arrogant enough

to brag about it once they achieve their objectives, and know they can't be touched.

[peace13]

2. So full of herself to say this outlook...

...and not even realize how bad it sounds.

[AmBlue]

37. This is the OPPOSITE of democracy.

And they admit this is what they are about. She SO needs to step down.

And we all SO need to go donate to her opponent!

Go home, Little Debbie! You're DONE!!

[notadmblnd]

3. The democratic leadership no longer denies that it is rigged

I don't know why their minions here still do.

[silvershadow]

4. K&R. nt

[Duckhunter935]

5. Proves Bernie is right

[phazed0]

6. Crickets from the Hillary supporters - they can do no wrong

thwarting Democracy! Tools, the lot of them. Just re-writing the rules as we go along.. If I were a Hillary supporter, I would be pissed. I'm sure the Correct the Record bots here on DU don't care though.

[FlatBaroque]

7. Her skin suit fits so poorly

[Dr Hobbitstein]

8. Context is important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=146&v=RawGr83DxpE

Here's a hint, she's not talking about grassroots activists running against party insiders and elected officials for office. She's talking about the convention itself. If you watch the full clip and listen to what she's saying (and maybe have a passing knowledge of the party rules pre-unpledged delegates), you'll know there's nothing nefarious going on.

ETA: This was addressed on DU months ago when this interview aired.

[MrMickeysMom]

20. That link did little more than to hear her segue each question and never answer...

She's talking clearly about "grassroots". Unless your have some psychic link to what DWS thinks, then she is no holes barred explaining how some Democrats are more equal than other Democrats.

Yeah, context is important.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

46. Grassroots and party/elected officials do not have to compete as delegates at the convention.

That is what she is saying. Before SD's, they did. And that shut grassroots out.

[MrMickeysMom]

51. Again... are you here psychic consultant?

Everyone's good at something...

[passiveporcupine]

26. Context is important

and so is prevarication. And she did a great job of twisting things around to try to make it look like super delegates were in favor of, and inclusive of, grass roots movements within the party, without any explanation of how this magical thinking is supposed to work. Because it makes absolutely no sense at all.

We are seeing in real life how it's worked out in "reality based elections" and it's not (and never has been) in Bernie's favor and hasn't been since day one, since most of the super delegates signed onto the establishment party from day one, as did the press. And the press have been throwing those numbers out there ever since, as if Hillary is so damned far in front of Bernie that he can never catch up, trying their damnedest to suppress votes.

Well...it just might be that he can't, but I think we need to see what happens in California. I'm glad Oregon got to vote (my state) and my vote is being heard. I think every state has a right to have their votes counted.

And I can understand why Hillary supporters are trying so hard to get Bernie to drop out early...because they too know that California is big enough to change things...and if they do, and we have a contested convention, Bernie might still win.

[tomm2thumbs]

27. yes, it made no sense

she admitted it was rigged, and then said 'but we love your involvement'

who wouldn't love to invite idiots to come play at a rigged party, as they bring booze and snacks for everyone to enjoy as an extra benefit

[Enthusiast]

43. It's nefarious as fuck and you know it!

[Dr Hobbitstein]

45. No it's not.

And you know it.

[Enthusiast]

47. It is so fully and blatantly nefarious that anyone claiming otherwise is obviously dishonest.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

49. Look, it's already obvious intellectualism isn't your thing.

Seeing as you stated before that people don't need proof to make a claim.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=374021

This whole issue was addressed in February when this interview first aired. But hey, let's yell and scream about it again, forgetting everything we may have learned because our guy is losing and it MUST be a conspiracy. No way it's the fact that the majority of Democrats don't want Bernie Sanders. No, that couldn't be it at all.

The disconnect in GD:Tinfoil is beyond the pale.

[Enthusiast]

50. Oh, I'm wounded!

[lapfog_1]

52. good try there

linking into the middle of a video...

But if someone takes the time to wind back to the start and listen to the entire question and answer...

she NEVER answers the question.

What she is saying is the SD are automatically "in" the convention and have voting rights because they were elected to some office or other previously (actually they are sometimes NOT active office holders but former office holders or even just local state party officials who never ran for election to anything). And that these SDs should not only go to the convention, but have the same say as the PD (who represent the will of the "grassroots" i.e. the people).

[pacalo]

9. Really, is there any other way to interpret that statement?

There seems to be some under-the-table club in congress that is serving the interests of the 1% & only indoctrinated members need apply for president.

Bernie Sanders was there as a much needed vote for the Democrats when they were desperate for every vote. The ingratitude shown by the DNC is stunning & embarrassing.

My eyes are wide open now, thanks to the very awkward & stumbling way this campaign cycle has been handled by Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[Dustlawyer]

10. The Super Delegates were created because the people/corporations who run things around here

didn't want their chosen field of candidates to have to compete with someone they didn't own already. I know he wont, but Bernie needs to go Independent 3rd Party. He would wipe the floor with both trump and Hillary. It would not be another Nader that's for sure!

[mooseprime]

11. And to be sure,

nothing quite says grassroots activist like a 74-year-old who has been working in government for decades and wears suits all the time. i guess we're supposed to be imagining disreputable creature dredged out of the aftermath of woodstock and not a current u.s. senator.

[SheenaR]

12. Forget it

If you even try to tell people that this exists, you are labeled a conspiracy theorist.

They don't want to hear it and they don't care.

Forget right and wrong...

It's "3 million votes, 300 delegates, etc etc."

This is why our Party membership continues to decline. A large disaffiliation in my home state just in the past year.

Even if she lied, just make people think it's a fair game. That's literally all she has to do.

[tomm2thumbs]

13. Passing along the gift of the presidency

Oligarchy - a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people might be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, religious or military control.

Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who typically pass their influence from one generation to the next...

________

Indeed

[zeemike]

14. Ouch is right.

And there you have it folks, they are so sure of their power they can admit to it being rigged.

[zebonaut]

15. It might "inconvenience" them

[randr]

16. She is top of my list of reasons I

am ashamed of the whole DNC.

[Jack Rabbit]

17. I repeat . . .

Can We, the People, have our party back now? We can run it better than self-imporatnat elites do

[MrMickeysMom]

18. Let's see if I have this right...

The DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S Super-Delegates, who previously did not exist, should be created to curb the people the party represents, should the people's numbers become too big to push their ideas to those who represent them?

[mooseprime]

28. that's pretty much exactly

how it seems to me. there seems to be some confusion about goals here. the goal of we Democratic party peons is to have progressive candidates in elected office, and the goal of DWS and the DNC is to have who they want in elected office. this 'party above all other considerations' business i keep coming across is creepy.

[hopemountain]

39. yes, exactly. she was asked to explain the

purpose of the "superdelegate" and this is how she answered.

i'm proud to be amongst the grassroots. i worked in grassroots communities for over 30 years. i never realized people such as debbie wasserman schultz really do believe we are shit and not worthy to elect a candidate.

[mindwalker_i]

19. "Fuckin' people, getting in the way of my party"

[Omaha Steve]

21. FIRE DWS! Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here

Donate to Tim at Act Blue here: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova

[Iwillnevergiveup]

38. Thank you, Steve

You took the words right out of my mouth. It is vitally important that Tim upsets DWS. Whatever else happens she's GOT TO GO!

[Enthusiast]

44. Huge +1!

[JoeOtterbein]

22. We need to be better than the GOP

What does she mean by "grassroots" other than a blatant slur?

[Plucketeer]

23. There's times when you just KNOW it's better

not to say what you're thinking. This clip evokes that sorta moment. Go ahead! Imagine the most vile things I could say about DWS and the organization she runs like a Punch 'n Judy show. You can't exceed what I'm thinking!

[cantbeserious]

24. Proof Positive That The DNC Does Not Tolerate Progressives And Progressive Policies

eom

[kadaholo]

25. Sound Your Voice on Nevada Fiasco...

...on White House Petition to investigate the Nevada Dem Chair:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/investigate-misconduct-chair-5142016-nevada-democratic-convention

[TrollBuster9090]

30. I Believe I've Got The Perfect Replacement For That Evil Clown.

[Enthusiast]

48. Untrustworthy. Also a sell out.

[arikara]

56. The original Howard Dean, yes

but not this version. They got to him already.

[Hiraeth]

31. grassroots efforts is how the Rs beat us everytime. dumbass.

at least you did something with your hair.

[Cheese Sandwich]

32. At least she was honest for once

[cstanleytech]

33. No, you just heard her admit that the super delegates are doing their job to keep out spoiler

candidates from suddenly declaring themselves to be a Democrat in order to try and win the Democratic nomination.
Bernies problem is though that for decades he decided not to officially join the Democratic party and so now hes suffering from that decision because hes having a rough time getting the super delegates to support him which is to bad really because I think he would make a fairly decent President but then so would Hillary imo.

[hopemountain]

40. you ignore that bernie has caucused with democrats for many years.

tsk. tsk.

[cstanleytech]

54. "for decades he decided not to officially join the Democratic party"

Not my fault if you decide to skip over what I wrote in a rush to reply but to quote you "tsk. tsk." over failing to.

[hopemountain]

58. where is the link to this quote and

there are republicans who became democrats - such as hillary clinton.

[cstanleytech]

59. Yes and there are independents who caucus with the Democrats or the Republicans

but for whatever reason they dont officially join either like Bernie caucused with the Democrats but didnt officially join the party itself until recently but thats not a knock on him nor is it meant as a slight to imply he isnt a "real" Democrat its simply a fact and one he now unfortunately having to deal with the consequences of.

[hopemountain]

60. but it is not a knock as you say

though you keep insisting it is and it now something he HAS to deal with. people supporting bernie are not the least concerned about it because of his progressive platform.

clinton on the other and is seeking support from the gop and no doubt she is making many promises and compromising the fundamental democratic platforms of the not only barack obama but democrats who fought hard for social security, medicare, and many other social and economic issues. bill has already been recorded speaking with paul ryan in support of privatizing social security.

working class democrats are loosing their blind loyalty to the party because it is not the same party. the platform has been switched through backroom deals with corporate lobbyists. less and less does the democratic party represent the best interests of the working class and people of color, the aged, the disabled, and even veterans because we are having to fight for what is left every day with letters and calls and petitions to our own party legislators.

either we take back our party or we go someowhere else and at this point the party does not want us any longer.

[cstanleytech]

61. Well of course its something he has to deal with because he is running for the nomination of

the party that he decided not to officially join for decades, thats simply a fact and its probably a major contributing reason for why he has had a hard time winning in some of the states against Hillary and um btw Bill isnt running for the office of President so he can speak all he wants.

[Quixote1818]

34. This may be the straw that broke the camels back.

This is quite frankly stunning to see and a gift to the Sanders campaign that can be used relentlessly. A complete and total WTF moment!

[Ruby the Liberal]

35. Canova is scaring the shit out of her

That was personal. You could see it on her face. She only wishes she had some SDs down there in Broward.

She is corrupt to the core.

[Quixote1818]

36. She might as well have said the super delegates are the gatekeepers for the oligarchy. nt

[mrdmk]

41. Straight from the horse's mouth, or did she just miss-speak?

There is no excuse for this statement what-so-ever. The reason for this type of policy is to keep a certain group of people in power.

The reason Debbie Wasserman Schultz was put into the Chair of the DNC was to raise money. When someone gives you large amounts of money, well you gotta blame it on

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[Enthusiast]

42. Kicked and recommended! See anything wrong with this?

Some are simply so ethically challenged they can't even recognize blatant unfairness.

[Zen Democrat]

53. From the mouth of magog.

[TBF]

55. Stay tuned for convention -

this isn't over yet. And if she does cram Hillary through regardless of the cheating, well all I can do is wish you luck in November because you are going to need it.

[libodem]

57. Dayum