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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:12 PM May 2016

Saudi Arabia Is A Huge Human Rights Abuser – Why Is Obama Protecting Them?



Congress has passed legislation that would allow the families of 9/11 victims to hold the country accountable for those atrocities. But President Obama has said he’ll veto the legislation, which means he’s willing to risk his reputation protecting one of the most oppressive countries in the world. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.
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Saudi Arabia Is A Huge Human Rights Abuser – Why Is Obama Protecting Them? (Original Post) GoLeft TV May 2016 OP
This is so stupid. underthematrix May 2016 #1
It's obvious why! EdwardBernays May 2016 #2
Bingo! TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #6
Here's a better question atreides1 May 2016 #3
!!OIL!! Angry Dragon May 2016 #4
The answer is always the same. zeemike May 2016 #5
It's not money/oil EdwardBernays May 2016 #7
I don't think you could sue for killing by military action. zeemike May 2016 #8
Normally if citizens of a country like Saudi Arabia who are closely tied to the JDPriestly May 2016 #9

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
2. It's obvious why!
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Because if we allowed it then every other country's citizens wronged by America would sue us... And believe me we have a LOT more to lose than Saudi Arabia.

Sucks but it's true.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. Here's a better question
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Why does the US Congress still sell weapons to and allow US military personnel to train, Saudi military forces?

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
7. It's not money/oil
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

it usually is... but it's not this time... the idea here is that is a country/government - in this case Saudi Arabia - kills and injures civilians - in this case Americans - the civilians can sue the foreign government.

Imagine if everyone hurt by American troops or the American government around the world could sue America... America would go broke in a couple of months...

So Americans hurt by Saudi Arabia just have to suck it up, because US foreign policy - somewhat ironically funded by some of the very people trying to sue Saudi Arabia - is too toxic and has hurt and killed too many people for them to ever get justice.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. I don't think you could sue for killing by military action.
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:22 PM
May 2016

But you could sue if the government sponsored terrorist attack on civilians...if you could prove that.

No I think it boils down to money/oil...the Saudis have large investments in commercial as well as politicians and the US and we need their oil. The Bush family has had connections with them for decades.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. Normally if citizens of a country like Saudi Arabia who are closely tied to the
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

government (and the Saudi Arabian individuals in question were), it would be considered an act of war.

But somehow, we did not consider it an act of war. It needs to be investigated thoroughly and not just the role of the Saudi Arabians. There is something very odd about how our governments, both the Bush and Obama administrations have dealt with the Saudi role in 9/11.

I don't claim to understand it. I just think an investigation is needed.

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