Mike Malloy - If It Comes Down To Clinton And Trump...I´m Not Voting

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[donnasgirl]

1. Thank You

Mike Malloy, well said.

[silvershadow]

2. Noted. Not sure I can go that far. It is always interesting and noteworthy to see what

others views are. I do not advocate (on this board, anyway) for such a move.

[arcane1]

3. I'll still be voting. Too many other important things on my ballot than just president n/t

[MFM008]

4. very disappointing

[cantbeserious]

5. Like Mike - I Have Lived Too Long

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[Nitram]

6. Well that's just stupid.

amazing how Clinton brings out the stupid in some people.

[RoccoR5955]

16. It is.

Especially those who think that she has changed her views on things. Actions speak louder than words.
She says that she wants corporate money out of elections, yet takes it. How am I to believe that? Am I stupid to doubt her? I don't think so.

[Nitram]

18. It is stupid to contemplate giving the GOP any advantage in this election.

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Supreme Court appointments, for one, are crucial if we don't want the GOP to roll back every gain we've made in the last 8 years. Yeah, I know. Bernie!!!!!!

[RoccoR5955]

20. So we just vote for Democratic Party

members of Senate to stop any Supreme Court appointment. It's been done before (Bork) it can be done again. If we elect Democratic members of congress the same thing shall happen and nothing will be rolled back, because they will not have the votes.
Your point is therefore moot.

[deathrind]

27. Very True.

As has been well documented over the last 8 years.

[Nitram]

44. It is only moot if you think, for example, voting for Obama was equivalent

to voting for Romney. Or that voting for Gore was equivalent to voting for Bush. Wake up and vote!

[RufusTFirefly]

26. In the past she could've argued that corporate money was a necessary evil

And some progressives might've even reluctantly agreed.
But Bernie proved that's BS.

Whoops!
Bring on the next lame excuse.

[Agschmid]

56. *is

[RoccoR5955]

58. Oh now I'm a murderer!

Talk about lame memes.

[paleotn]

7. foolish. Very foolish, Malloy n/t

[cantbeserious]

9. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently - Including Mike

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[paleotn]

37. Opinions are like arseholes...

...everyone's got one. And many aren't worth a damn when they meet up with reality. I like Malloy on many issues, but he's talking out of his ass on this one.

[cantbeserious]

42. Speaking Of Oneself - One Sees

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[paleotn]

47. Not hardly....

....I'm not the one seriously advocating cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. Whats best for the country, given the REAL situation on the ground, ain't always perfect. That's fucking life. Get use to it. We work for better, but don't always get it immediately. Act juvenile and you sure as hell won't get anything better.

[cantbeserious]

48. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

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[MillennialDem]

34. Actually not voting is very intelligent. Your one vote for president will never, ever matter. Now

for local elections it might...

[paleotn]

36. I remember all those single votes for Ralph Nader back in 2000...

+97K in Florida alone. Had 537 of those single votes in Florida gone to Al Gore, how many US military personnel might still be alive? What might the Middle East look like today? Elections do have consequences. Staying home pouting has consequences too.

You may not like the Democratic candidate. She's certainly not my first choice. Not my second, third or fourth for that matter, but the alternative is far, far worse.

[cantbeserious]

43. One Seems To Forget That A Recount In Florida Proved That Gore Won - Nader Had No Effect

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[paleotn]

45. No, one doesn't forget, thank you very goddamn much

...had Nader not been in the race, there would have been no damn recount, no controversy, and Katherine Harris would be some obscure, FL Republican no one outside of FL had ever heard of. Gore would have won without question. Nader voters in FL should give themselves a good ole pat on the back for 8 years of W, thousands of dead Americans and God knows how many Iraqis.

Had Nader not been in the race, and those 97K simply stayed home and pouted, we would have ended up with the same outcome...8 years of W. How we vote in elections HAS consequences If enough of us act stupidly, well, we get what we deserve.

[cantbeserious]

46. Had The SCOTUS Not Played Political God - We Would Never Have Had GWB

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[paleotn]

49. But they did.....

Regardless, had just a few thousand of those idiotic Nader voters used their freaking brains for once, there would have been no SCOTUS interference. Gore would have won narrowly, but without question.

[cantbeserious]

61. Nader Was Irrelevant - SCOTUS Was The Villain

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[MillennialDem]

68. Did Gore win or lose Florida by 1 vote? Snarkiness re: the Supreme Court not withstanding. Would

Gore have won had just one of those Nader voters voted for Gore instead?

Oh wait, that's right. That didn't happen.

[onwardsand upwards]

8. There are other options ...

Although the Republican and Democratic parties would have you believe it, it is not true that their candidates are the only ones on the ballot.

Nice pic, by the way!

[redruddyred]

11. i was just about to say

jill stein seems like a nice lady

[OilemFirchen]

10. Privileged tool uses privileged position to spout privileged shit.

Who coulda predicted that?

[pnwmom]

12. Then he's an idiot. n/t

[donnasgirl]

13. Why is he an idiot?

[pnwmom]

15. Anyone who doesn't vote to stop Trump or Cruz is an idiot. Or worse. n/t

[RoccoR5955]

17. So just vote for a corporatist.

If that's not idiotic, I don't know what is.

[pnwmom]

21. It's idiotic NOT to vote for the person who will appoint Justices who will

overturn Citizens v. United and support Roe V. Wade.

It's idiotic NOT to vote for the person who wants to fix and enlarge the ACA, not get rid of it and throw millions of "uninsurables" into high-risk pools.

It's idiotic NOT to vote for the person who wants to raise the minimum at least to $12 and higher for those cities and states who want it.

It's idiotic NOT to vote against the person who wants to build a wall between here and Mexico and thinks we can get Mexico to pay for it.

It's idiotic NOT to vote against the person who called for a ban on Muslims coming to the U.S.

[newthinking]

25. There is a lot more at risk than the supreme court choices.

The more I learn about Clinton's role and effect on this administration the more concerned I am.

I just read the New York times story about Clinton's Military mentor which is another link to NeoCons. And it also turns out that Hillary has had a very large role in turning our embassies into war fronts (basically pushing the diplomacy into the back lines).

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html?&_r=0

Jack Keane is one of the intellectual architects of the Iraq surge; he is also perhaps the greatest single influence on the way Hillary Clinton thinks about military issues. A bear of a man with a jowly, careworn face and Brylcreem-slicked hair, Keane exudes the supreme self-confidence you would expect of a retired four-star general. He speaks with a trace of a New York accent that gives his pronouncements a rat-a-tat urgency. He is also a well-compensated member of the military-industrial complex, sitting on the board of General Dynamics and serving as a strategic adviser to Academi, the private-security contractor once known as Blackwater. And he is the chairman of an aptly named think tank, the Institute for the Study of War. Though he is one of a parade of cable-TV generals, Keane is the resident hawk on Fox News, where he appears regularly to call for the United States to use greater military force in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. He doesn’t shrink from putting boots on the ground and has little use for civilian leaders, like Obama, who do.

Keane first got to know Clinton in the fall of 2001, when she was a freshman senator and he was the Army’s second in command, with a distinguished combat and command record in Vietnam, Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia and Kosovo. He had expected her to be intelligent, hard-working and politically astute, but he was not prepared for the respect she showed for the Army as an institution, or her sympathy for the sacrifices made by soldiers and their families. Keane was confident he could smell a phony politician a mile away, and he didn’t get that whiff from her.

“I read people; that’s one of my strengths,” he told me. “It’s not that I can’t be fooled, but I’m not fooled often.”

Clinton took an instant liking to Keane, too. “She loves that Irish gruff thing,” says one of her Senate aides, Kris Balderston, who was in the room that day. When Keane got up after 45 minutes to leave for a meeting back at the Pentagon with a Polish general, she protested that she wasn’t finished yet and asked for another appointment. “I said, ‘O.K., but it took me three months to get this one,’?” Keane told her dryly.

Clinton exploded into a raucous laugh. “I’ll take care of that problem,” she promised.

[pnwmom]

29. Have you been listening to what Trump has been saying about nuclear weapons?

How could anyone consider not trying to stop him?

[newthinking]

23. What a choice. Someone who consorts with NeoCons who will set the world (further) on fire or

an idiot dunce "reality TV" star.

(If Bernie doesn't take the nomination)

[donnasgirl]

19. There is alway's a write in vote

Which I and my family intend to do if Bernie is not the Nominee, we will not vote for Hillary for the very reason we do not trust her in any way shape or form.

[pnwmom]

22. A write-in vote means if Trump is President, you tossed away your last chance to help stop him. n/t

[donnasgirl]

24. We have standards by which

We are going to cling to no matter what the outcome is, we will not support any Candidate who lie's thru their teeth just to become the President of this Country. We will not compromise in any way shape or form pnwmom, we have been sold down the river long enough and will no longer hold our noses going to the polls to vote, for this family it is Bernie or nothing and many of our neighbors and friends feel the same way.

[RoccoR5955]

30. Oh please

now you're gonna start the Nader song, I suppose.

[MillennialDem]

35. Actually, anyone who votes mathematically is an idiot. Your one vote will never

decide the presidency.

Now if many people do that it might. But I'm just talking about for one individual...

[RoccoR5955]

14. Neither am I

I will vote for the down ticket races, but not for either corporatist shill.

[captainarizona]

28. thats what the green party is for!

happy vietnam war protestors victory day. I have never voted for a clinton and I never will!

[tartan2]

32. I will be voting one way or another

and it will be for Bernie. Either he wins the nomination and his name gets on the ballot that way and I vote for him or I write his name in on my ballot!!

[rtracey]

33. then

Ummm then you basically say fuck the system, fuck the party and fuck the country....so fuck you.

[paleotn]

39. Agreed.

Life is full of imperfect choices. Pouting about it and throwing a tantrum is so damn juvenile it makes me sick. Grow the fuck up, Malloy!

[donnasgirl]

41. That's a great way

To keep people in the Party and the very reason we adopted the Bernie or bust attitude.

[rtracey]

66. then

Then same to you

[stonecutter357]

38. seems legit !

[ffr]

40. Mike, if you are not voting, then I'm not listening to you anymore

Not voting is just about the most unpatriotic act a citizen can undertake. You talk politics on your radio show, which means, that if you don't vote, YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER. You might as well pack it in, because I won't give the time of day to anyone who chooses not to vote.

What a terrible message to broadcast. Very disappointed in you.

[paleotn]

50. +10 X 10^100

...you're damn right.

[1StrongBlackMan]

55. My thoughts, as well.

[2naSalit]

57. Ditto!

[MrMickeysMom]

62. I doubt that you listen to him anyway...

... else you would have been highly offended by the program, who has called in, and who definitely won't be supporting Clinton many moons before THIS statement came out.

[ffr]

69. Your all or nothing approach doesn't fit me.

I've listened to his radio show and many rants, because I assumed he voted or votes. But, like I said, if you don't vote, I'm not going to listen to any opinion or gripe you have after the election. Voting was your chance to voice your approval and disapproval. Not voting, means you don't have an opinion.

[CountAllVotes]

51. Kathy isn't voting for her either

She was practicing HRC's cackling laugh.

And yes, that was funny indeed!

[choie]

52. As usual, Mike is spot on!

I will either not vote or write in Bernie's name.

[Trust Buster]

53. Malloy is totally irrational and a narcissist. He is willing to risk the Republican Party filling

the Supreme Court and lower federal benches with nominees approved by the Federalist Society. His narcissism trumps his common sense.

[RoccoR5955]

59. Sure.

Like if the Dems get back the Senate, they will not boot any Supreme Court nominees. It has been done before, it can be done again. Can you say Bork?
Seems like common sense isn't so common around here.

[Trust Buster]

60. Bork was a justifiable exception. He is not representative of the average SC nominee.

Even 6 Republicans voted against Bork because of his record.

[MrMickeysMom]

63. On the contrary, he is the most rational voice of the progressive voices...

Sounds like you have never listened.

[Trust Buster]

64. Claiming that, if it came down to Trump and Hillary, he will not vote is not rational at all with

the Supreme Court hanging in the balance for a generation. I don't think Malloy is as sharp as you think he is.

[MrMickeysMom]

65. I'm pretty sure he'd be the first to agree with you...

You might have heard him say this a couple of hundred times over the years, if you had been a listener.

Mike Malloy doesn't claim to have answers for people, but he sure does foster, along with his listener, the exact issues that need to be voiced, including a primal scream on many of the ongoing injustice. He's not there to advocate anything BUT this dialogue.

It's the truth, which may not be as comfortable for you to hear at times. You don't need HIS vote, you need your own.

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