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Trump wants to shoot Muslims with bullets dipped in Pigs Blood (Original Post) zebonaut Apr 2016 OP
While it's a ridiculous idea, it would probably Press Virginia Apr 2016 #1
or make them 1000 times more angry and hateful at the US zebonaut Apr 2016 #6
Who is them? People, who we're told, are not true followers of Islam? Press Virginia Apr 2016 #7
actuslly the superstitious fanatical nutjobs think martyrdom purifies the body Bucky May 2016 #12
yeaaaah....meanwhile the Kurds are forming all female fighting units because there's something Press Virginia May 2016 #14
What does this remind me of? zebonaut Apr 2016 #2
Much of what he says is so childish that it we had a really jwirr Apr 2016 #3
The Sepoy Rebellion occurred because of the belief that pigs blood and beef fat were used Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #4
Nothing makes your troops more awesome than acting like 10-year-old boys. NT Jerry442 Apr 2016 #5
So we should kill the enemy just not kill them Press Virginia Apr 2016 #8
You must respect your adversary. Jerry442 May 2016 #9
Respecting your enemy isn't the same as Press Virginia May 2016 #10
This childish taunt is not "using their beliefs against them" Bucky May 2016 #13
You act as though Islamic beliefs are a mystery Press Virginia May 2016 #15
no, I actually explained what you were missing to you. Not a mystery, a known belief system Bucky May 2016 #16
But they aren't fighting for the faith Press Virginia May 2016 #17
The story is, of course, complete bullshit. Pershing preferred negotiations with the Moro rebels Bucky May 2016 #11
 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
7. Who is them? People, who we're told, are not true followers of Islam?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

and who cares if they get mad because we didn't shoot them with Halal bullets?

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
12. actuslly the superstitious fanatical nutjobs think martyrdom purifies the body
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:19 AM
May 2016

If you die fighting, they teach, you don't need to cleanse the body. So even by the crazy dumbass standards of terrorists, this is a lame, ineffective idea.

The insult of just suggesting this alone will probably help seal the deal on recruiting a few more terrorists. So, sorry, but you can't stupid your way into victory in the war against terrorism. They're not vampires and pig's blood isn't their garlic.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
14. yeaaaah....meanwhile the Kurds are forming all female fighting units because there's something
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:58 AM
May 2016

in their religion about dying at the hands of a woman.

We're not going to dip bullets in pigs blood but then again, why not think we might?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. Much of what he says is so childish that it we had a really
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

intelligent MSM it would never be in the news.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. The Sepoy Rebellion occurred because of the belief that pigs blood and beef fat were used
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 10:14 AM
Apr 2016

in cartridge packets, forcing the Sepoy troops (combined Muslim and Hindu) to digest them when they bit the paper and opened the cartridge.

What Was the Indian Revolt of 1857?
The immediate cause of the Indian Revolt of 1857 was a seemingly minor change in the weapons used by the British East India Company's troops. The East India Company upgraded to the new Pattern 1853 Enfield rifle, which used greased paper cartridges. In order to open the cartridges and load the rifles, sepoys had to bite into the paper and tear it with their teeth.

Rumors began in 1856 that the grease on the cartridges was made of a mixture of beef tallow and pork lard; eating cows, of course, is forbidden in Hinduism, while consumption of pork is haram in Islam.


This would lead to massive anger across all of Islam, making any solution much more difficult if not impossible.
 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
8. So we should kill the enemy just not kill them
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 04:01 PM
Apr 2016

with anything that might offend them?

While it would be ridiculous to think we actually WOULD dip bullets in pigs blood, the psychological effect might be something that would be valuable

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
9. You must respect your adversary.
Mon May 2, 2016, 12:12 AM
May 2016

If you don't, it's pretty much guaranteed that you won't have a realistic view of their intents or capabilities -- you'll end up shooting yourself in the foot.

Belief in the efficacy of dipping your projectiles in pig's blood is about as useful as Allied WWII commanders believing that all Japanese troops had buck teeth and wore thick round glasses.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
10. Respecting your enemy isn't the same as
Mon May 2, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

using their religious or cultural beliefs against them.

In WW2 the effort was to build morale in our soldiers. This idea is to affect the morale of the enemy

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
13. This childish taunt is not "using their beliefs against them"
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

This is a monotheistic religion with a theology and rational belief systems perverted into terrorism. They are not magical vampires repelled by garlic and silver crucifixes. Before you can "use their beliefs against them" you have to understand them above the intellectual level of a Hammer sexploitation film.

For instance, Muslims hold that the body of a martyr is purified by the act of martyrdom. Desecration of the body by enemies does not imperil the soul, as any nitwit could figure out.

The example Trump cited was entirely a fabrication. The Moro insurgency in the Philippines was calmed by negotiations and by Pershing's thoughtful, restrained, and sympathetic treatment of the enemy.

Here's how Snopes.com dispatched this bullshit
when it was first posted 15 years ago ==> http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
15. You act as though Islamic beliefs are a mystery
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

being shot with a "pork" bullet doesn't make them a martyr....and, neither does being killed by a woman, which the Kurds are taking full advantage of.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
16. no, I actually explained what you were missing to you. Not a mystery, a known belief system
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

And yes, fighting for the faith makes them martyrs. Quit making up facts to bolster your argument. Geeze

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
11. The story is, of course, complete bullshit. Pershing preferred negotiations with the Moro rebels
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:15 AM
May 2016

Even the most superstitious Muslims don't believe body desecration by enemies imperils the soul. Fanatics believe the act of martyrdom purifies the body of the terrorist.

The Snopes article from 2001 slapped away this idiocy 15 years ago.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

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